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Any difference between 3 yr or 4 yr Univ. Degree??

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:56 pm
by DanWEC
If anybody here is involved in the process or has first hand knowledge-I am just wondering, according to most airlines hiring matrix, is there any difference between a candidate with a 3 year University Degree as opposed to a 4 year??

I ask because I cheaped out at the last minute of my Biology degree, (no more passion) and took a 3 year General Science instead of finishing my Bio.
It's still a Bachelor of Science and a degree however.

Just wondering if this will hurt me or if I should spend the next year or two finishing the 4 year degree.

Thanks,
Dan

Re: Any difference between 3 yr or 4 yr Univ. Degree??

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:14 pm
by wxguy
Which school did you go to? As far as I know a standard degree is 40 courses, but a BSc is still a BSc no matter how many years it took. IMHO not like a bio degree is any better than a general science degree with respect to aviation anyway!

Re: Any difference between 3 yr or 4 yr Univ. Degree??

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:30 pm
by DanWEC
University of Windsor.
I just hope that it isn't a waste unless it's a 4 year degree. It's def a BSc anyways, and while the difference may hold some bearing on other science related academic fields, I'm guessing (and hoping) that it won't matter in Aviation, as long as I have the degree!

Re: Any difference between 3 yr or 4 yr Univ. Degree??

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:33 am
by flying4dollars
DanWEC wrote:University of Windsor.
I just hope that it isn't a waste unless it's a 4 year degree. It's def a BSc anyways, and while the difference may hold some bearing on other science related academic fields, I'm guessing (and hoping) that it won't matter in Aviation, as long as I have the degree!
A degree is a degree. It's as simple as that.

Re: Any difference between 3 yr or 4 yr Univ. Degree??

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:47 am
by AuxBatOn
Sure, a Phys-Eng degree and a Litterature Degree are the same

:lol:

IMO, your degree should be oriented in a field that will bring you something in your career. Any science background will enable you to understand a little better what's going on in and around your aircraft. I put ENABLE because it may not teach you first hand about it, but you'll develop search techniques and you'll be able (and possibly have the will) to further educate yourself on the matter, in a more in-depth level than the PPL/CPL/ATPL gives you. A Litterature degree? Not so much...

Re: Any difference between 3 yr or 4 yr Univ. Degree??

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:07 am
by mdscientist61
flying4dollars wrote: A degree is a degree. It's as simple as that.
If you want your degree to be acknowledged by an employer, you have to make sure that the degree is from a valid accredited program.

For example, I remember when I was in university earning my BScEng (many many moons ago) I heard that there were people graduating from someplace with a "Bachelor of Arts in Engineering". It was said that those graduates were having trouble getting engineering jobs with good companies.

So before you sign up and pay your hard-earned money, double check the accreditation of your intended degree program. Don't simply rely on the brochures from that school. Do some looking around and confirm it independently.

Alternatively, if you think that your eventual employer will not check on your background and references, then you can get a non-accredited degree from boris's on-line college diplomas. Just browse to http://www.borisonlinecollegediplomas.edu.ru, click to select the desired degree that you are interested in, and have your credit card handy. You'll get your degree in just a few minutes as a pdf file in your inbox. Then you can print it on a color printer and you'll be done. No muss, no fuss, no four years of studying till your eyeballs fall out, and you'll save thousands in tuition fees. :lol:

Re: Any difference between 3 yr or 4 yr Univ. Degree??

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:46 pm
by just curious
The Forces for example wanted for Direct Entry officers, an Honours BA ie, a four year degree. As did the late lamented Canadian Airlines.

In Air Canada's matrix, unviersity entrance was the baseline, with additional points for an AvCollege Diploma or a degree. Type or length of degree not specified.

Damned if I know of anyone else in Canada who wants or requires one.

JC

Re: Any difference between 3 yr or 4 yr Univ. Degree??

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:03 pm
by DanWEC
I read that the Forces require a 4 year degree, and that was one of the first times I had seen that stipulated (eliminating a 3 year degree candidate). Worried me a little, and I'm hoping other employers don't place too much weight on this.
There is no issues with accreditation, the U of Windsor is a major university. I was 3/4 done my bio degree and just said f-it when I realized I had met the course requirements for the Gen. science degree in lieu of another year + for a bio degree I hasn't going to use in the slightest.
It's a BSc, in Science, from a major, regular university that took me 4 years to get (I slacked a little.)

Re: Any difference between 3 yr or 4 yr Univ. Degree??

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:47 pm
by niwre
The more tools in the toolbox the better. Just remember some tools are more useful than others.

Re: Any difference between 3 yr or 4 yr Univ. Degree??

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:51 pm
by niwre
AuxBatOn wrote:Sure, a Phys-Eng degree and a Litterature Degree are the same

:lol:

IMO, your degree should be oriented in a field that will bring you something in your career. Any science background will enable you to understand a little better what's going on in and around your aircraft. I put ENABLE because it may not teach you first hand about it, but you'll develop search techniques and you'll be able (and possibly have the will) to further educate yourself on the matter, in a more in-depth level than the PPL/CPL/ATPL gives you. A Litterature degree? Not so much...
Sure they are. It's just what you do with that knowledge is what counts. But that Lit/English/Law degree sure comes in handy with those TC tests.

Re: Any difference between 3 yr or 4 yr Univ. Degree??

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:11 pm
by Joe Blow Schmo
My rough calculations show that there is approximately 1 year difference between a 3 and 4 year degree

Sorry, couldn't resist :smt040

Re: Any difference between 3 yr or 4 yr Univ. Degree??

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:43 pm
by sirtate
Joe Blow Schmo wrote:My rough calculations show that there is approximately 1 year difference between a 3 and 4 year degree

Sorry, couldn't resist :smt040
what i have found in the world outside of aviation; the 'Honours' degree doesn't mean much over a 'regular' degree if you have one year in the field (or workforce)...

ergo; if you can get a job and build experience, yer Bsc will be just as good as an HBsc... especially from LCU :D

Re: Any difference between 3 yr or 4 yr Univ. Degree??

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:37 pm
by flying4dollars
mdscientist61 wrote:
flying4dollars wrote: A degree is a degree. It's as simple as that.
If you want your degree to be acknowledged by an employer, you have to make sure that the degree is from a valid accredited program.

For example, I remember when I was in university earning my BScEng (many many moons ago) I heard that there were people graduating from someplace with a "Bachelor of Arts in Engineering". It was said that those graduates were having trouble getting engineering jobs with good companies.

So before you sign up and pay your hard-earned money, double check the accreditation of your intended degree program. Don't simply rely on the brochures from that school. Do some looking around and confirm it independently.

Alternatively, if you think that your eventual employer will not check on your background and references, then you can get a non-accredited degree from boris's on-line college diplomas. Just browse to http://www.borisonlinecollegediplomas.edu.ru, click to select the desired degree that you are interested in, and have your credit card handy. You'll get your degree in just a few minutes as a pdf file in your inbox. Then you can print it on a color printer and you'll be done. No muss, no fuss, no four years of studying till your eyeballs fall out, and you'll save thousands in tuition fees. :lol:

Yes I should have clarified that as well, I agree, somewhere accredited and not a place like "Waltham College" located above a pet store lol. But yes you're right. Where you get the degree from makes a diff.

Re: Any difference between 3 yr or 4 yr Univ. Degree??

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:20 pm
by Stubby
Yeah, I think its about 1 year?

lol.
j/k..
ciao
m

Re: Any difference between 3 yr or 4 yr Univ. Degree??

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:35 pm
by North Shore
AuxBatOn wrote:Sure, a Phys-Eng degree and a Litterature Degree are the same

:lol:

IMO, your degree should be oriented in a field that will bring you something in your career. Any science background will enable you to understand a little better what's going on in and around your aircraft. I put ENABLE because it may not teach you first hand about it, but you'll develop search techniques and you'll be able (and possibly have the will) to further educate yourself on the matter, in a more in-depth level than the PPL/CPL/ATPL gives you. A Litterature degree? Not so much...
Double LOL. I know you said "IMO," but the library research techniques that you should learn in every undergrad degree will be pretty much the same. The will to delve further into the workings of your aeroplane are a function of your innate curiosity, and professionalism, and have nothing to do with your chosen field of study. I will concede that a Literature (if you used some of your fancy Phys-Eng research techniques on a dictionary, you'd see that the word only has one 't' :lol: ) degree won't give you the math/science background that you might need to progress to advanced aeronautics, but beyond that, as far as aviation goes, I really don't see the difference... all IMO, of course. :wink:

Re: Any difference between 3 yr or 4 yr Univ. Degree??

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:21 pm
by Invertago
What about those with a 10 year degree, are they better? (or did they just party too much and waste lots of time?)