(3) No holder of an instrument rating shall exercise the privileges referred to in Section 401.47 unless the holder has
(a) within the 12 months preceding the flight, successfully completed an instrument rating flight test in an aircraft or in a Level B, C or D simulator of the same group as the aircraft;
(b) within the six months preceding the flight, acquired six hours of instrument time and completed six instrument approaches to the minima specified in the Canada Air Pilot in an aircraft, in actual or simulated instrument meteorological conditions, or in a Level B, C or D simulator of the same category as the aircraft or in a flight training device under the supervision of a person who holds the qualifications referred to in subsection 425.21(9) of the personnel licensing standards;
(amended 2001/03/01; previous version)
Let`s say I take off VFR, shoot 6 simulated approach to the minimma ( Not on a IFR flight plan ) does that meet the requirement for the 6 instrument approaches???
If you are the only guy in the plane, how would you do an instrument approach in simulated or actual IMC while remaining VFR (look outside - see & avoid)?
Short answer, on your own as VFR - No.
If you have a qualified instructor, and you wear an approved device for simulated instrument, then yes.
Ralliart wrote:If you are the only guy in the plane, how would you do an instrument approach in simulated or actual IMC while remaining VFR (look outside - see & avoid)?
Short answer, on your own as VFR - No.
If you have a qualified instructor, and you wear an approved device for simulated instrument, then yes.
Almost but not quite
You don't have to have an instructor on board, a safety pilot will do and be a lot cheaper.
The time you spend under the hood and shooting the approaches counts towards you 6 hours
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I try looking in the interpretations and I can`t find what the requirements are for a safety pilot.
Also
Ok, so lets say we take off IFR and shoot 6 approaches in VMC to minimums, would that count?
If you don`t have 6 approaches in 6 months you can`t takeoff IFR. Is it only for flight in IMC or am I allowed to file an IFR flight plan (when VMC) take off with a safety pilot and go shoot them approaches or do I absolutely need to go VFR under the hood with a safety pilot.
Hawkeye4077 wrote:If you don`t have 6 approaches in 6 months you can`t takeoff IFR. Is it only for flight in IMC or am I allowed to file an IFR flight plan (when VMC) take off with a safety pilot and go shoot them approaches or do I absolutely need to go VFR under the hood with a safety pilot.
One of the privileges of the Instrument Rating is that the holder may "exercise the privileges of the licence under IFR...." The reg that quoted at the start of the thread begins with, "No holder of an Instrument Rating shall exercise the privileges....." unless they meet those requirements. As a result, the prohibition is against flying IFR, not just in IMC. Bottom line, if you don't meet those requirements you have two choices, go flying with someone else as PIC if you want to do it IFR (since they could be PIC -- assuming that they have an Instrument Rating and are "current") or, if you want to be PIC you have to do it VFR and do it under "simulated conditions".
Lurch wrote:How this would work for two crew operations? I have NFI
According CARs your IFR is valid, current, and meets recency requirements if you maintain a current PPC. No 666 is required.
PPC counts as your IFR flight test and they are vaild for 1 year so no 666 is required. For the Non-PPC you have 2 years and for the first year after the flight test you are valid for 1 year no 666.
I was talking about the FO. Does the PCC count?
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poke-her player wrote:can the 666 be done in a sim
Yes as long as it's an approved/certified sim
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that for the recency to count in the sim, you have to do it with an instructor... otherwise how do they know you actually did the 666?
Come to think of it... how do they know if you actually flew 666 in an airplane?
Who is "they" anyway?
Why should "they" care?
At the end of the day, "they" don't care... it's YOUR licence
poke-her player wrote:can the 666 be done in a sim
Yes as long as it's an approved/certified sim
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that for the recency to count in the sim, you have to do it with an instructor... otherwise how do they know you actually did the 666?
Come to think of it... how do they know if you actually flew 666 in an airplane?
Who is "they" anyway?
Why should "they" care?
At the end of the day, "they" don't care... it's YOUR licence
in a Level B, C or D simulator of the same category as the aircraft or in a flight training device under the supervision of a person who holds the qualifications referred to in subsection 425.21(9) of the personnel licensing standards;
I don't think currency will ever come into questions unless you crash, then during the investigation they would find out you weren't current. Then the Insurance Company will void you insurance because you weren't qualified. So I guess your estate cares.
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While obviously not a Transport Canada reference, the FAA has this regulation regarding safety pilots:
§ 91.109 Flight instruction; Simulated instrument flight and certain flight tests.
(b) No person may operate a civil aircraft in simulated instrument flight unless—
(1) The other control seat is occupied by a safety pilot who possesses at least a private pilot certificate with category and class ratings appropriate to the aircraft being flown.
(2) The safety pilot has adequate vision forward and to each side of the aircraft, or a competent observer in the aircraft adequately supplements the vision of the safety pilot; and
(3) Except in the case of lighter-than-air aircraft, that aircraft is equipped with fully functioning dual controls. However, simulated instrument flight may be conducted in a single-engine airplane, equipped with a single, functioning, throwover control wheel, in place of fixed, dual controls of the elevator and ailerons, when—
(i) The safety pilot has determined that the flight can be conducted safely; and
(ii) The person manipulating the controls has at least a private pilot certificate with appropriate category and class ratings.
read what flapless Dork said: if you have a current PPC, you are covered. it in the cars, but buryed as usual.
Why would you be in a sim unless you are doing PPC recurrency?
Remember IR renewal has to be done as a PPC ride per TC, so you should get the PPC with the Ir.
If PPC for 703 going to be annual again, that will make problems.
