185 nose over

[wabi101]

Here's a question for 185 drivers. If you were doing a static ground run at full power, and the yoke full forward, is it possible to nose over?

Thanks,
W101

[Sam300]

Probably, I would not recommend trying it. When we balance props we hold the contol column aft.

[beaverbob]

Yes it is. You can hold the nose off the ground with wheel ahead and turn around with about 1/2 to 3/4 power.
Bob

[nofate]

I used to be able to lift the tail on my C170B (180 hp) no problem. I did it often to break the skis free if they were a little stuck.

[black hole]

NO!

BH

[Siddley Hawker]

Why would you have the yoke full foward during a full power ground run?

[beaverbob]

BH, Are you sure? Have you tried it?
Bob

[wabi101]

I had a mechanic tell me that when he runs up a 185 he holds the yoke back so that it doesn't nose over. I kinda doubt it. We can all speculate... but if anyone actually knows....

[beaverbob]

I had a mechanic tell me that when he runs up a 185 he holds the yoke back so that it doesn't nose over. I kinda doubt it. We can all speculate... but if anyone actually knows....

Consider your mechanic friend correct.

[ybp]

It is called, "common sense" people!!!

Why would you NOT make every effort to keep the tail on the ground while you are doing high power ground runs??

A) Hold the yoke back and be a little uncomfortable or....
B) Sit there like a bump on a log and risk a prop strike!!!!!!!

I hope that is not a difficult decision for you to make!!!

My .02,

YBP

[AEROBAT]

I would be surprised if you didn't nose over, especialy if the plane was light. In my plane I can easily lift the tail at less then full throttle

[Cranium]

Even if the aircraft is tied down at the tail, hold the stick back: if your prop picks up a loose stone, at least the elevators are out of the way.

But, yes - you can nose it over.

[good_idea]

It is called, "common sense" people!!!

Why would you NOT make every effort to keep the tail on the ground while you are doing high power ground runs??

A) Hold the yoke back and be a little uncomfortable or....
B) Sit there like a bump on a log and risk a prop strike!!!!!!!

I hope that is not a difficult decision for you to make!!!

My .02,

YBP

Ummm... YEAH!! My thoughts exactly.
To throw out another cliche... Don't tempt fate

[snoopy]

A common trick on the DHC-2/C-185 wheels and/or wheels/skis is to be slightly forward on the controls (or more forward if heavier) and add power (ease it in) to raise the tail and turn on a dime. Full power run-ups in a taildragger with controls full forward should only done if you hate your job(and even then, would you really want to wreck the a/c), your props, or both.
Kirsten B.

[lost in the north]

By doing what Kirsten said in the 185 you can put a tremendous strain on the gear boxes,its better to make a large radius turn

[Ag Driver]

By doing what Kirsten said in the 185 you can put a tremendous strain on the gear boxes,its better to make a large radius turn

Absolutely. A large radius turn is standard finesse for ground operations. Along with rudder before braking.

As for the original questions. If I were a betting man, I would bet on a nose over. Keep the stick back.

[snoopy]

Agreed - wide radius turns are better, as is always plan to point the aircraft (on skis) away from shore/obstacles etc. before stopping. However for various reasons, it may be required to pull tricks out of one's sleeve to deal with less than ideal circumstances. Even then, pushing the aircraft around manually prior to start if possible, is better than employing powered "tricks". The above was meant to erase any further doubt In answer to the original post, not to give advice about recommended procedures.
Cheers,
Kirsten B.