MEDIVAC Bids for Yukon
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MEDIVAC Bids for Yukon
Looks like a big contract bid coming up in Yukon.
Air Ambulance Services for Yukon Government Emergency Medical Services Medevac Program
http://www.gov.yk.ca/tenders/public/2298.html
Click on the PDF file to see all the information.
Air Ambulance Services for Yukon Government Emergency Medical Services Medevac Program
http://www.gov.yk.ca/tenders/public/2298.html
Click on the PDF file to see all the information.
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I know Alberta and I think Manitoba's contract asks for that as well.
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500 hrs - yes. ATPL - No. not required until Captain upgrade (and 2000 hours)turbo-prop wrote:I know Alberta and I think Manitoba's contract asks for that as well.
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I bet ya a case of good beer Alkan gets it! any takers 

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You are ON! I hope Alkan gets it, they are well set up to do the job and have the crew, equipment etc to do it. They're an excellent company. I can't say enough good things about the guys / gals at that outfit.
You are ON! I hope Alkan gets it, they are well set up to do the job and have the crew, equipment etc to do it. They're an excellent company. I can't say enough good things about the guys / gals at that outfit.
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At least they are smarter than Ontario.
NO PC-12's!
Aircraft must be able to maintain 18,000 with an engine out. It is nice to see that someone with aviation experience is running things. (I think that the ATPL for a 500 hr pilot is a mistake that got through.)
NO PC-12's!

Aircraft must be able to maintain 18,000 with an engine out. It is nice to see that someone with aviation experience is running things. (I think that the ATPL for a 500 hr pilot is a mistake that got through.)
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they should at least be required to have the big cargo door on the king airs to ease the loading of some patients in the back.
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After JT tried for the contract several years back he appealed now they write it specifically for ALKAN's aircraft.
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I would even question "approved aircraft" against the aircraft spec, namely performance. payload (range), cabin pressure, MEA S/E (Payload), door size (twin stretcher config). Other aircraft not on list perhaps better suited.
Perhaps Decal size vs AOC holder's livery.
My 2 cents "anyways"(sic)
Perhaps Decal size vs AOC holder's livery.
My 2 cents "anyways"(sic)
How do you go 205 kts TAS on 32 gal/hr without turbos!
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Seems that you have to have at least in King Air 300 primary and a 200 as backup...
Does kind of look like it is written for AlCan although maybe Tindi or Northern Air Charters in Alberta could get it together in time...
Does kind of look like it is written for AlCan although maybe Tindi or Northern Air Charters in Alberta could get it together in time...
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problem is you would have to build a hangar/set up infrastructure, Alkan already has it set up, they'll get the contract, at least they pay good, I think 80k+
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I miss the Yukon and Alkan. Never should of left Whitehorse.
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For sure its been geared towards Alkan. On the first page it says the aircraft has to be on their pre-aproved list. then goes on to say "The yukon Gov will not consider any aircraft not on the pre-approved list." by the way king air is the only one on their list, 200,300,350's. So how is this not favoritism? oh ya gotta be able to operate out of a 3000 ft unimproved runway 2 hr fuel, crew, med equipment and then 1200lbs.
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As with most Government contracts it is almost impossible to unseat the incumbent. Unless the vendor has failed to provide the service. Governments like things that are consistant and familiar.
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Not always true. Voyageur lost their ONT medevac contract.
If Alcan is doing a good job, why change it?
If Alcan is doing a good job, why change it?
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Ya there is lots of operators running them but what about operators running other a/c that can do the job, no considerations to those planes as written in the bid. Also have to see the other gov contracts for the yukon, all written and geared towards the exact aircraft and only aircraft Alkan has, coincidence??? also they were awarded the contract last year with it not going to tender at all, gov got in trouble for that one. All in all no one else is going to win the bid they have a monopoly on it and its not going to change, they know that.
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agreed, there are not many types in that class.
However, I do wonder who is writing this contract and where they are getting their info. TCAS II??? Really?? How is that helpful? Who said that would be of any use?
Seems a bit in Alcan's favour with the tight timelines. However, I wouldn't count out anyone else. I'm sure there will be some competitive bids coming in.
However, I do wonder who is writing this contract and where they are getting their info. TCAS II??? Really?? How is that helpful? Who said that would be of any use?
Seems a bit in Alcan's favour with the tight timelines. However, I wouldn't count out anyone else. I'm sure there will be some competitive bids coming in.
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kag . voyageur didn't lose it in the true sense of the bid process -the ornge corp went and borrowed $175mill secured by tax payer of ont. bought 6ng pc12. set up ornge air > and said thanks have a nice day. no tender no open bid process. good bye.
This is the one operating area where I might give in to the the 2 engine thing . though with a next gen and synthetic vision 12's big door and the range / saving the tax payer in fuel and if anyone cares it really aint cheap north of 60 . . as far as the bid goes do the king air as primary and the 12 as back up so over the course of a 3yr term contract
true +'s and minus can be objectively weighed. with real numbers not emotion . one thing that the 12 does have over the k/a is balanced field req esp the 300/350 there are some shorter strips up there. one should look at this combo to give the best operational flexibility. to the customer.
just me 2 bits worth . fly safe everyone
This is the one operating area where I might give in to the the 2 engine thing . though with a next gen and synthetic vision 12's big door and the range / saving the tax payer in fuel and if anyone cares it really aint cheap north of 60 . . as far as the bid goes do the king air as primary and the 12 as back up so over the course of a 3yr term contract
true +'s and minus can be objectively weighed. with real numbers not emotion . one thing that the 12 does have over the k/a is balanced field req esp the 300/350 there are some shorter strips up there. one should look at this combo to give the best operational flexibility. to the customer.
just me 2 bits worth . fly safe everyone

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That will be what the outside companies will have to do. Had Alkan bought a Falcon 10 years ago, that's what would have been in the contract.altiplano wrote:How about a company seeing what the gov't wants and offering it?aircraft Alkan has, coincidence?
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Sounds like a surprising number of bids in this time around. Seems like there's a few outfits looking for work for their 350's. YTG might end up saving a few bucks.
While the bid basically requests what Alcan already has, that is also simply reflective of the fact that Alcan has a very good medevac set-up. 2 Machines, 1 of which excels at long-hauls, common type with a good record; heated hangar; good A/C equipment. Who wouldn't specify that?
fwiw - there are some things specified in there that Alcan doesn't have, so they aren't just having the thing handed to them.
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While the bid basically requests what Alcan already has, that is also simply reflective of the fact that Alcan has a very good medevac set-up. 2 Machines, 1 of which excels at long-hauls, common type with a good record; heated hangar; good A/C equipment. Who wouldn't specify that?
fwiw - there are some things specified in there that Alcan doesn't have, so they aren't just having the thing handed to them.
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Effiin hippie, "there are some things specified in there that Alcan doesn't have, so they aren't just having the thing handed to them."
such as???
such as???