Have you ever been asked your AvCanada @ an Interview?

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Have you ever been asked your AvCanada @ an Interview?

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I was remembering back a few years ago when I was in Smithers, interviewing for their low time program. The people I was interviewing with asked me if I read AvCanada and if I posted on there. Of course, I said yes to both. They then proceeded to ask me what my ID was! I said to them "thats the beauty of an Anonymous Web Board!!! Have any of you ever been asked?
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Is that even legal?
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Of course it is legal. And while personally I wouldn't care, the answer above seems like the perfect one.

Many prospective employers are now checking Facebook accounts. If you are stupid enough to put compromising stuff about yourself up for the world to see, shouldn't employers take that into consideration?
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ahramin wrote:Of course it is legal. And while personally I wouldn't care, the answer above seems like the perfect one.

Many prospective employers are now checking Facebook accounts. If you are stupid enough to put compromising stuff about yourself up for the world to see, shouldn't employers take that into consideration?
A big +1. A friend of a friend of mine on Facebook regularly uploads photos of him and his buddies engaged in all sorts of drunken debauchery. When this guy's resume came across our chief pilot's desk I was asked about it, and pulled up some of those photos for his perusal. The prospective candidate didn't get the job.
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Glad your not my friend Ditar.
ditar wrote:A big +1. A friend of a friend of mine on Facebook regularly uploads photos of him and his buddies engaged in all sorts of drunken debauchery. When this guy's resume came across our chief pilot's desk I recognized the name and pulled up some of those photos for his perusal. The prospective candidate didn't get the job.
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So, do you post your AvCanada name on the address line, the space between the Licences and Flight Times, or in the miscellaneous column of your resumé?

Asking somebody their AvCanada name is sort of like asking a woman her weight or other personal questions-- it just isn't polite.
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shannon wrote:Glad your not my friend Ditar.
But I may be a friend of one of your friends! As long as you don't upload tons of photos where you're making an ass of yourself you needn't worry. :wink:
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What's the issue when someone wants to have his/her version of fun in his/her spare time? Does it bother you so much that you feel compeled to put yourself between the said someone and a possible job? Are you really the kind of person that will blade your fellow pilots to look good in front of the bosses?
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AuxBatOn wrote:What's the issue when someone wants to have his/her version of fun in his/her spare time? Does it bother you so much that you feel compeled to put yourself between the said someone and a possible job? Are you really the kind of person that will blade your fellow pilots to look good in front of the bosses?
My previous comment was meant in jest, but seriously, I am not against someone having fun in their spare time. Quite the contrary. I couldn't care less what someone does on their own time. Posting it publicly for all to see is a different matter, and displays poor judgement. As ahramin said, if you put compromising stuff about yourself up for the world to see, shouldn't employers take that into consideration, if it is relevant to them? Certain employers may look for particular types of candidates. In this case I simply brought forth all information available to me when I was asked whether I knew the person. I made no judgement about him otherwise. I'm sorry if that's too harsh for you.
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It's not that it is too harsh, but simply that it shows you character: you will blade people (even if you don't have to it seems so, which is even worse). What struck me is that it is a "friend of a friend", someone that you know.

In my books, you help people out, but at the very least you don't blade them, no matter if you like them or not. The boss, if he wants to, will go out and seek the information. I don't see why you take it upon yourself to volunteer information for something that doesn't affect you.
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You make it sound as though I like to "blade" people for fun. Your character judgement of me is inaccurate, unwarranted, and based upon your interpretation of one incident, the details with which you are unfamiliar. Perhaps I wasn't clear that I was consulted on the hiring of this person. I didn't go out of my way to screw him over. The boss sought the information from me. For the record I have never met him. "Friend of a friend" on Facebook is a pretty loose association. In any case, despite a spiteful person like me getting in his way, it seems he found a job elsewhere.

As for wanting to look good in front of the boss, in the non-flying part of my job that is a low priority. On the contrary, part of my responsibility is to confront him if necessary. It's in that capacity, not in dragging up dirt on my colleagues, that I've earned his respect.
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I don't have a facebook account, and never will.

My wife and kids have specific instructions of what they can say about who I am and what I do.

Why? Am I a bad person? I don't think so... but as a regulator, can you imagine the shitstorm that could happen if someone said the wrong thing? Posted a picture and put some "off colour" caption? Not only could I lose my job, but it would reflect on the department and the Minister. Not Good.

That is part of the reason that I am anonimous here. Am I ashamed of what I post? Of course not. Could it be used against me? Yes.

If anyone asks if I know about Avcanada, I say sure... but I never post.

Go figure.

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ditar...you strike as the type in school that would tell the teacher at the end of the day "Miss...you forgot to assign the homework!!!"...and then got beat up in the playground.

Didn't your father ever teach you not to be a snitch? You really need to watch Scent of a Woman.
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ditar wrote:
ahramin wrote:Of course it is legal. And while personally I wouldn't care, the answer above seems like the perfect one.

Many prospective employers are now checking Facebook accounts. If you are stupid enough to put compromising stuff about yourself up for the world to see, shouldn't employers take that into consideration?
A big +1. A friend of a friend of mine on Facebook regularly uploads photos of him and his buddies engaged in all sorts of drunken debauchery. When this guy's resume came across our chief pilot's desk I recognized the name and pulled up some of those photos for his perusal. The prospective candidate didn't get the job.

:shock:
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What I do in my personal time is no business whatsoever of my employer. If I decided to post pictures of myself in compromising positions on the internet, that's my choice and does not reflect my employer unless I'm stupid enough to be wearing a company logo'd shirt or something similar in the pics. To deny a qualified person a job for what they do on their own time (assuming it's not immoral and/or illegal) is just wrong.
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ahramin wrote:Of course it is legal. And while personally I wouldn't care, the answer above seems like the perfect one.

Many prospective employers are now checking Facebook accounts. If you are stupid enough to put compromising stuff about yourself up for the world to see, shouldn't employers take that into consideration?
Actually, I've done a wee bit of research on the subject of interview questions. Oh, they can check your face book. You put that "out there" with your name etc. They can (and do) check out face book accounts of persons of interest. But, the line is drawn at asking about club affiliations, religious beliefs etc. They can no more ask if you were a Boy Scout, any more than they can ask if you're an active KKK member. Keep in mind, they must avoid at all costs the appearance of any bias. Oh, you can tell them all about the shit you stir up on avcanada, but they can't ask. A professional interviewer would know that.
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Captain_Canuck wrote:I was remembering back a few years ago when I was in Smithers, interviewing for their low time program. The people I was interviewing with asked me if I read AvCanada and if I posted on there. Of course, I said yes to both. They then proceeded to ask me what my ID was! I said to them "thats the beauty of an Anonymous Web Board!!! Have any of you ever been asked?
Did you get a job offer after you said that?
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Human Factor wrote:What I do in my personal time is no business whatsoever of my employer. If I decided to post pictures of myself in compromising positions on the internet, that's my choice and does not reflect my employer unless I'm stupid enough to be wearing a company logo'd shirt or something similar in the pics. To deny a qualified person a job for what they do on their own time (assuming it's not immoral and/or illegal) is just wrong.
You might think it's wrong, but people loose jobs every day of the week for just this reason. You're "out there" for the public to see. If your boss happens upon a photo of you tossing your cookies on a street corner, being held up by a bunch of hookers, your goose could very well be cooked....
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If (?) you choose to be part of the "Facebook" generation. Be prepared for the consequence.

When a certain Pilot got himself in trouble in Heathrow, the British Media had his name, age, and a smiling picture of him in about 2 nano seconds. Which got plastered on every newpaper, on both sides of the Atlantic.

It is not unlike - during an Interview, someone inspects your vehicle. Is it a pig-pen on the inside? Speaks to the individual.....

Expect competent HR Departments to be using every available tool, to get a quality employee.
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Since I'm not a Facebook person, can someone more knowledgeable please explain how the general public can see a person’s personal pictures and postings on Facebook? I thought that access was only granted to "friends"??
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culver10 wrote:Since I'm not a Facebook person, can someone more knowledgeable please explain how the general public can see a person’s personal pictures and postings on Facebook? I thought that access was only granted to "friends"??
Are you familiar with the "Six degrees of separation" theory? She told two people, and they told two people.......

You can set up your account so only certain people have access. But most don't bother.
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Two rules I have when it comes to facebook well maybe three.
If I would not have you over to my home for dinner, you are not on my friends list.
If I would not like my employer/boss to see IT, it does not get posted.
And if you can google your name and your facebook page comes up first, you are looking for trouble. JMHO.
Be forewarned...alot of employers are doing "google" searches.
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And if you can google your name and your facebook page comes up first, you are looking for trouble. JMHO.
Be forewarned...alot of employers are doing "google" searches.
it requires to have a certain idea of oneself to believe you're important enough so that an employer will check your "profil" on google. what if your name is bob smith ? just punch it for the fun.

However I agree with your 2 other statements.
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scopiton wrote:
And if you can google your name and your facebook page comes up first, you are looking for trouble. JMHO.
Be forewarned...alot of employers are doing "google" searches.
it requires to have a certain idea of oneself to believe you're important enough so that an employer will check your "profil" on google. what if your name is bob smith ? just punch it for the fun.

However I agree with your 2 other statements.
A good idea is to set up a google alert for your name. You'll get an e-mail from google when your name shows up on a new page or a changed web page. I have one for mine. I get an alert everyday. Fortunately the pages that come up are related to a PhD in the USA or a cricket player. I'd be worried if I came up on that alert (without expecting to)
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it requires to have a certain idea of oneself to believe you're important enough so that an employer will check your "profil" on google. what if your name is bob smith ? just punch it for the fun.
I'd say that the point is, if your name IS Bob Smith, and your potential employer googles it (because they've got nothing else to do...) and YOUR info comes up, then you're not keeping a low enough profile.

If Ditar had any information about the individual that the CP was asking about, and no personal relationship with the individual, wouldn't he share that info?? That's what's been done in this case. If you kew of someone by a negative reputation only, and the CP asked you about that person, wouldn't you divulge that info? (Most especially if they were being hired to sit in the seat next to yours??) I'm sure you wouldn't risk your reputation by saying 'this is a stand-up guy' when you have so little to work with. Everyone says it's about who you know that'll get you a job, I'd say it's who you know that you make a positive impression upon that will get you the job.

Ultimately, there's more detail and context to the story that everyone would look over, or just ignore if Ditar bothered to write it all down here. So, moral of the story, check your privacy setting, don't allow just anyone to be your friend, and don't post pictures (or let others post them of you) that you wouldn't show your mother.
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