JAR License

[boozy]

Anyone know the procedure to go from Canadian Commercial to JAR license equivalent! A good website will suffice.
Thanks

[e300d]

There is lots of info, search google or even AvCanada.

If it is just a CPL you can convert it, depending on how much practice you need, it may take 5 - 10 hrs.

If you want to fly for airlines, have to get JAA fATPL or frozen ATPL
If you have a PPL or CPL you can start to study for the 14 exams that must be written.

You have to enroll at an FTO to do so. Many offer long dist. learning. It is about 650 hrs of study time you have to commit to.

Then you go and knock off 14 exams.

Then get a JAA medical, whole day affair...

Then do a Radiotelephony exam.

Then Convert your CPL....

Then Get a IR...

I hope this helps a little bit.

[canadapilot924]

You can do distance learning but as far as i'm aware you still have to do a certain amount in their classroom. Oh, and you can't do all 14 exams at once so plan on a few trips over (unless you're doing them in Florida). For the IR you'll need to do 10hrs + in a twin before they'll let you do the ride...i believe the examiner fee alone if $1000+. Don't forget to be employed in JAA land nowadays you'll need your MCC, another 8k there. The plus side is that despite the initial costs you'll start on a way better salary then you would over here, kinda cancels everything out. That's if they need any pilots in the next few years!!
Not sure if anyone knows the exact requirements but i've heard from a few people that if you have a certain number of PIC hours on a >12,500 then the 14 exams gets cut to 2.

[wallypilot]

The plus side is that despite the initial costs you'll start on a way better salary then you would over here, kinda cancels everything out.

That's not really true, IMHO. Don't forget that living expenses are significantly higher in Europe. The higher salary isn't the windfall that you initially might think. For example, in the UK, while 30K GBP might sound like a fair chunk of cash, the purchasing power of that salary in the UK is not a lot higher than 30K CAD in Canada(at least in most parts of Canada...YVR & YYZ are obviously very expensive).

And the initial costs are sizeable. Expect to spend around 8k-12K GBP to convert to the fATPL if you have no time on airplanes over 12500 that require 2 crew. Then you'll probably likely have to buy a type rating as well. who knows how much those are.

With the likes of Globespan going under, and the huge number of discount carriers over there, it's not the rosey picture it was just a couple years ago.

[ajet32]

European and Middle Eastern pilots make a great deal more yes it costs more to live but the idea that it cancels out is a bit off. We are quite simply leading the race to the bottom along with our southern brothers. We work harder fly more all for less money and a seniority system that can see an experienced pilot spend 10 years in the RHseat of a Dash 8 or CRJ. That doesn't happen at large EU carriers where you have status pay and Bidding. Heck you have 37 year old B777 skippers at KLM. I like that system.
just my 2 cents worth. As for the licence I fly with a number of European trained pilots. there overall technical knowledge is better than a lot of us but there grass roots experience is negligible.

[wordstwice]

check out the LASOR's document from UK CAA, it will show you what to do to convert any license to theirs.

http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?c ... il&id=1591