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Buffalo Ad
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:15 am
by iflyforpie
Position: Lockheed L188 Electra and/or Douglas DC-4 Crews
Company Name: Buffalo Airways
Contact Person: Arnie Schreder
Street Address: 108 Berry St.
City: Yellowknife
State/Province: Northwest Territories
Country: Canada, X1A 2R3
Web address:
http://www.buffaloairways.com
Email address:
buffalo@buffaloairways.com
Phone number: No Phone Calls Please
Fax number: 867-873-8393
Apply via: Fax or Email
Aircraft Types: L188, DC-4
Job Description:
Crews on Lockheed L188 and/or Douglas DC-4s required.
Previous experience necessary.
Salary:$ TBD
Closing Date: ASAP
The red was the ad.
Okay, I'm pretty sure that the only operator of DC-4s in Canada is Buffalo and there are none too many L-188s around. So aside from a few Airspray pilots who might want to work in the freezing cold all year (instead of relatively warm weather half the year) who is going to be qualified for these jobs?
Or is this a chance for previously terminated Buffalo pilots to regain their employment?

Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:21 pm
by Lost Lake
My sentiments exactly. With all the free advertising, you'd think pilots would be lined up. Maybe it's really a troll to show the insurance company there are no pilots in Canada qualified or wanting to fly there.
Put my name on that list

Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:11 pm
by Donald
It doesn't say previous experience on type.
Maybe they just want some guys with more than 250 hrs? You know for the bomber contracts, and whatever the Electra's do (besides sit parked on the ramp waiting for parts).
Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:55 pm
by Flybabe
What Donald said.
Doesn't say experience on type, and I surmise it would be for tanker contracts. So, that's a few months of the year NOT in freezing cold, anyways!
I wonder if P2 experience qualifies..?
Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:30 pm
by SeptRepair
After watching the show, people would still want to work for a place like that?
Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:14 am
by Lost Lake
At least they don't have to pay for their job, as per other posts about some companies!! Don't want to jack this thread.

Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:44 am
by Sam300

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Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:07 am
by Doc
I can see some older, high time guys doing contract work for a couple of summer months for them, with a prepaid return ticket in their pocket. That's about it, though. Guys with lots of round engine time, mixed with some heavy twin time should have no problems with a DC4. Not on MY "bucket" list, however.
Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:35 am
by iflyforpie
Okay, my bad. But the statement is ambiguous and the closest thing to qualifying it is the aircraft types listed above. Perhaps that was intentional to dissuade the bug smasher pilots?
Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:11 pm
by xsbank
A DC4 may not float your boat but you have to be pretty boring if an Electra doesn't put the wind in your sails!
Do you REALLY think that Ice Pilots is accurate? Drama queens...
Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:02 pm
by Duncan Idaho
Do it Cat!
Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:10 pm
by Cat Driver
Joe can't afford to pay me.

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But if he would be my ramp boy I might consider it.

Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:56 pm
by Bushav8er
Bunch of us are still waiting for your book to be released Cat.

Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:23 pm
by Cat Driver
Actually Joe and I are good friends from way back, I just never worked for him.

Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:24 pm
by Donald
Could explain why you are good friends. I understand working for him, can make it challenging to be friends.
Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:47 pm
by nimbostratus
Seems like they very suddenly need a new driver for these two types. Perhaps a little drama has just played out up in Yellowknife that should make for good TV this fall...
Nimbo
Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:19 pm
by Doc
xsbank wrote:A DC4 may not float your boat but you have to be pretty boring if an Electra doesn't put the wind in your sails!
I admit it. I'd love to fly an Electra. Don't think I would be able to jump through Joe's "hoops". Worked for companies in the '70's....don't want to go back there. Don't need the "politics".
Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:55 am
by iflyforpie
Oh, and just to clarify, I am not interested in working up there either. Joe's reputation preceded his appearance on the show and I have no desire to move to the Blade, cut my wages, and double my working hours, all for the 'chance' to fly an Electra or DC4.
Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:21 am
by flying4dollars
Doc wrote:xsbank wrote:A DC4 may not float your boat but you have to be pretty boring if an Electra doesn't put the wind in your sails!
I admit it. I'd love to fly an Electra. Don't think I would be able to jump through Joe's "hoops". Worked for companies in the '70's....don't want to go back there. Don't need the "politics".
I'm with you Doc. I'm more of a modern aircraft kind of guy but if there is one airplane with some age behind its vanity, it's the Electra. I'd love to get some stick time on this bird!!

Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:01 pm
by iflyforpie
To me the L-188 looks like an overgrown Metro (tiny wings, sewer pipe fuse).
This is the semi-classic bird I'd like to fly:
Nearly double the original installed power (R-2800s), classic and balanced lines, and probably the strongest transport category aircraft ever built.
Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:23 pm
by The Old Fogducker
You must really mean a totally rebuilt Convair 580A with upgraded D22 engines and 4,000 Hp and every bit of excess weight stripped off it.
Throw in a glass cockpit, a bomb button, and you've got "one of the sweetest rides" going.
OFD
Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:10 am
by iflyforpie
The only air tankers I worked on were the Conair machines; they only had the D13s with water meth and steam gauges...
The 5800 was a pretty sweet machine also, with glass, lighter empty weight than the original C-580 (due to lighter wiring and smaller tail surfaces) and 4000 HP of D22 goodness....
(sorry for the hijack, but it's my thread...)
Re: Buffalo Ad
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:36 am
by Adiabatic
Work is available, crews are needed 'on type'
Agreed it is tough to find crews for the L188 with experience on type, especially flight engineers.
The only other solution is to train new crews on the L188 and that is why the AD was placed.
Large Turbine/piston experience would be benificial.
DC4 Tanker contract is coming up....
AB
L188 F/O
400mph at a great F/O mileage rate keeps me happy...