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Two Shots...Two Kills

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -kill.html


Outstanding marksmanship there young squaddie. I thought hitting my targets at one mile was decent shooting.

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:shock:

Awesome job. I would imagine at these distances there are a ton of external variables that make this type of shot nearly impossible (light wind currents, optical distortion from heat, target moving, thermals?) in addition to the diminishing accuracy of the weapon at extreme ranges.

I was only ever good at shooting empty shot gun shells at 25 yards with a .22 rifle.
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Great article.

Nice shooting!
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We sometimes discuss this issue here. And what if the talibs got their hands on very good sniper rifles. It is still a possibility. Many countries make good ones.
Imagine the power they would have. Being shot from 2 km without noise. Our guys would stay put, or come home quick. We are blessed that so far our ennemies did not use anti aircraft missiles, or sniper rifles. Nothing could be worse than a talib riding on a donkey, with a sniper rifle. The landscape here provides impunity. Retaliation is almost impossible against such a fluid ennemy.
Now the fact that the Brits started using them may cause the other side to buy some. :shock:
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Good to see the boys enjoying a friendly contest between countries.
This guy should breed early and often.
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I think that you would find even with similar hardware the talib would have a much lower success rate. The man makes the difference, and training helps make the man.
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<<<Expat Post subject: Re: Two Shots...Two KillsPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:44 pm
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Location: Central Asia We sometimes discuss this issue here. And what if the talibs got their hands on very good sniper rifles. It is still a possibility. Many countries make good ones.
Imagine the power they would have. Being shot from 2 km without noise. Our guys would stay put, or come home quick. We are blessed that so far our ennemies did not use anti aircraft missiles, or sniper rifles. Nothing could be worse than a talib riding on a donkey, with a sniper rifle. The landscape here provides impunity. Retaliation is almost impossible against such a fluid ennemy.
Now the fact that the Brits started using them may cause the other side to buy some.>>>

Actually Expat, the Taliban had or may still have access to large numbers of Russian weapons captured (or bought from the Afghan Army) by the Mujahideen during the Soviet Union's adventures in that country. These would include the SVD-59 Drugunov sniper rifles. And if so, just becasue they have them does not mean they neccessarily know how to use their maximum effectiveness. Perhaps they feel that all they need to win with are AK-47's and RPG-7's and I.E.D.'s I do often wonder how many crates of stinger missiles are still kicking around in caves in that country.
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I have to second what rigpiggy stated; it's the person squeezing the trigger, not the rifle getting that gets the kill at X yards.

With all the cool gadgets from the Afghan/Russian rumpus,how may of them were maintained? A Stinger is not an M-16, or AK-47 for that matter.
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I guess it's to be expected that with the training these guys have, and the conditions they're operating (large treeless areas with elevated positions) in that these records would fall. Amazing shots, makes me wonder how many crates of ammo I'd have to go through to have a hope in hell of landing one on target.
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Imagine the power they would have. Being shot from 2 km without noise. Our guys would stay put, or come home quick. We are blessed that so far our ennemies did not use anti aircraft missiles, or sniper rifles. Nothing could be worse than a talib riding on a donkey, with a sniper rifle. The landscape here provides impunity. Retaliation is almost impossible against such a fluid ennemy./quote]

I'd guess having complete air supremacy would downplay that a bit.
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I don't know. I have been here more than five years, and can only conclude that it is getting worse. Talibs are spreading slowly, financed by God knows who.
The estimates put them at less than 75000! We have 130000 troops here, plus the af army and police... Air superiority (supremacy), and nothing works...
Just like Nam! :shock:
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What works, the American (West) public can't stomach.
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Nark wrote:What works, the American (West) public can't stomach.

Yes, agree, but what doesn't work, is what is happening now, and for 1 billion USD per day, the west will never get their money's worth. Just like Nam...
Even if they killed all the Talibs, then what??? Corrupt gvt will create problems, so that money keeps flowing...

Asia will reap the benefits. They have no boots on the ground, but are very active, like in many other parts of Africa, and South America. They are building an empire based on development, assistance, infrastructures, goodwill, and ...bribes...But it works...
And what we see here doesn't work for the west.
Sorry, but it is the sad truth...
I am not putting down the effort put by our and your boys. They do the best that they can. They are heroes. They are protecting us.
But some dirty politicians are filling their pockets at their expense, and at the expense of the tax payers.
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>>>grimey Post subject: Re: Two Shots...Two KillsPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 4:01 am


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Imagine the power they would have. Being shot from 2 km without noise. Our guys would stay put, or come home quick. We are blessed that so far our ennemies did not use anti aircraft missiles, or sniper rifles. Nothing could be worse than a talib riding on a donkey, with a sniper rifle. The landscape here provides impunity. Retaliation is almost impossible against such a fluid ennemy./quote] I'd guess having complete air supremacy would downplay that a bit. >>>

Not my quote grimey.
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Expat wrote:Just like Nam...
Actually... it's just like Afghanistan! :wink:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan
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Nark wrote:What works, the American (West) public can't stomach.
right. We already had one main holocaust genocide. Plus all the other stuff we don't call holocausts: dropping nukes on civillian towns, bombing Laos, Cambodia.

FYI China is communist country true and true. War on commuism???


History book is written by the victors. And then taught to our kids.

Why are our "enemies" always located in oil and drug countries?
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It is not like the Household chappies to brag about how good they are or what they are capable of doing ,quiet and dependable lot ,normally.
I do hope they do not start sounding orf like some of the cousins.They usually just wear funny clothes in the west end clubs ,regimental ties optional and keep that operational news and stuff to themselves :wink: :wink:
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If anyone cares to read about the Canadian who held the previous record, and how the Canadian government 'thanked' him...

http://www.macleans.ca/canada/national/ ... 689_126689
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That article should be required reading for any potential recruit into the Canadian military:

"How Excellence Is Rewarded By Us"

Anyone here read Rick Hillier's autobiography? My jaw nearly hit the floor when I read that when he was the chief of allied troops, he would never call on the Canadians to perform combat missions because other nations performed them so much better. Truly an astounding statement, coming from the CDS.
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Hedley wrote:he would never call on the Canadians to perform combat missions because other nations performed them so much better.
What he actualy said was that he didn't use Canadian troops because getting approval from Ottawa took far too long; there was nothing wrong with the troops at the pointy end of the stick.
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Ah! If the taxpayers knew what is happening here... :shock:
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That's why I think we should cut our losses and pull out now.

Sort of a threadjack, so I'll get it back on topic.

Whether you like or not why NATO is over there. That dude's still one hell of a shot!

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Nice rifle... :shock:
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Black Armani suits went out in the eighties with straight hairdressers ,and that hat really makes him look like an onion seller.1-4-1

Why do some Navy intelligence guys wear those horrible black shirts and stuff as well ,i guess they figure nobody has any fashion sense in submarines either.But at least the sub guys have nice cuff links not velcro .

Funny heard on the secure channel at a Papal visit "DO NOT SCOPE THE POPE" apparently it is not good etiquette :wink: :wink:
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