Q: From an extreme nose-high attitude, what angle of bank is optimal for recovery?
Hint: 99.999% of pilots will get it wrong

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Methinx this is the one, it goes naturally with the airplanes goal of going up. We are upside down but with a negative AOA the airplane thinks it is climbing. Except this is one of the rare times the airplane can climb into the ground.Hedley wrote: 180 degrees of bank - pulling the nose down from the vertical to wings-level inverted
From an AOA standpoint, which is a better choice? Remember, the wings do not have eyes, and cannot see the attitude of the aircraft, only AOA.
Every single I've flown only had one throttle.old_man wrote:throttles in a piston single
Look up the coined term "Hammerspin".Bede wrote: BTW, I don't like your explanation about possible spin entry. Even though you are near vertical, your AOA is not past the critical angle once the maneuver is started, hence no spin threat. Forgive my lack of aero experience, but in every sim I have done this maneuver in (MU2, CL65, B737), I've never been close to a spin, or a stall for that matter at the top of the maneuver. (I've done this in small GA planes, but I'd get fired if I did this on the Boeing)
Nose high to me is 45 degrees. At this attitude, I am doing more of a wing-over than a hammerhead.iflyforpie wrote:Bank angle becomes more and more of a moot point the higher nose-up you go.![]()
Yes, a plane only stalls with excessive AOA, but it needs to be maintained that way.Bede wrote: Even though you are near vertical, your AOA is not past the critical angle once the maneuver is started, hence no spin threat.
C|D wrote:Look up the coined term "Hammerspin".Bede wrote: BTW, I don't like your explanation about possible spin entry. Even though you are near vertical, your AOA is not past the critical angle once the maneuver is started, hence no spin threat. Forgive my lack of aero experience, but in every sim I have done this maneuver in (MU2, CL65, B737), I've never been close to a spin, or a stall for that matter at the top of the maneuver. (I've done this in small GA planes, but I'd get fired if I did this on the Boeing)
And I prefer Hammertime.niwre wrote:C|D wrote:
Look up the coined term "Hammerspin".
I prefer hammersnap