Crediting Foreign Training Toward a Canadian License

[DHQ]

Is it possible to do some flight training in another country and count that toward the mandatory hour requirement for a license in Canada? I mean specifically the dual training for initial issue of a CPL, not working in another country hour building for an ATPL.

[oates76]

I just converted my UK JAA CPL to a TC CPL this past summer. They had no issues with the time built up overeas. Not sure if this differes for an initial vs a conversion, but because there is no conversion agreement between JAA and TC (unlike the TC/FAA), I don't think it makes much difference.

I called transport and they were very helpful.

[DHQ]

This was transport canada's email answer:


Good day; all credits in the applicable Canadian Aviation Regulations (CAR's) sections, 421.31 (7) and (9) refer to "holders" of a licence - all dual and solo commercial course requirements must be met from the holder of a Canadian Flight Instructor Rating.

[vova_k]

... solo commercial course requirements must be met from the holder of a Canadian Flight Instructor Rating.

- probably, my English is not enough to understand this... Anyone can explain how do you receive SOLO commercial training from an instructor ???

[f650]

The solo time referred to is the 30 hours emphasizing the improvement of general flying skills of the applicant. This time must include a pre-flight briefing from the instructor signing the commercial student pilot out for said training. This is not referring to the 100 pic build-up time. This time is referred to in CARS 421.30 (a) (ii) 4(B) I. Hope this helps.

[ATPL0107]

Hello everyone.

I have a question for all of you. I am a German National with forzen ATPL ( JAR FCL ICAO CPL with ATPL EXAM and IR/ME ) Now I am also a Permanent Resident in Canada and I want to convert my license now to a Canadian one, but without loosing my European one. Is that even possible and if yes, what do I have to do. I have been to the TC-website but I don't realy get what the write there.


Appreciate your answers and thoughts.

Regards from Germany

[Panama Jack]

ATPL0107, your continuance of your German licences depends on you maintaining eligibility with the Luftfahrt-Bundesamt (LBA) and them alone. You do not "trade in" one national licence for another, per se. Theoretically, you can maintain as many licences as you want from different countries.

For the conversion of your German licence to a Canadian one, it would involve self-study, some written exams and at least one flight test. The Transport Canada website makes it fairly clear, and gives you a flavor for the way the Canadian regulations are written:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/s ... q-2282.htm

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/s ... e-2283.htm

[ATPL0107]

great thank you!

I will look at the two sites.

[mike123]

Is it possible to do some flight training in another country and count that toward the mandatory hour requirement for a license in Canada? I mean specifically the dual training for initial issue of a CPL, not working in another country hour building for an ATPL.

I was told by a Transport Canada agent that they would count dual hours logged in US on a US registred aircraft towards total hours, but not towards CPL training hours. I am not sure the same would hold for other foreign countries. Another thing they told me to make sure my FTU would accept those hours as well.

[trey kule]

I dont have the answer, and I dont doubt the souce quoted.
but it seems strange that I cannot count the time towards a CPL(H), from say a commercial helicopter license in the US, but once I get the US license, the conversion is relatively easy...the training time, is , in fact credited.

Or am I missing something here?

[Big Pistons Forever]

treykool

The "training time" is not credited, it is the license which is credited, and this only applies to certain licenses between the US and Canada as a result of a special MOU between TC and the FAA. This deal does not apply to licenses issued by any other agency. The issue here is you can not have a mix of foreign and Canadian training time count towards the time required to be eligable for the initial issue of a Canadian CPL, (except for the total time requirements)

[trey kule]

I understand the issue. I was unaware that there was only limited convertability between FAA/MOT (restrictions aside). But you can convert an FAA commercial to a Canadian commercial, can you not? My point was , that if that was the case, then you were de facto, getting credit for US training.
Anyway, this is not a burning issue in my life, just another of those odd little quirks TC comes up with that I find interesting.

[jpilot77]

Yes you can convert a FAA commercial to a TC Commercial.