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Someone please tell me this is a joke....(SK Air Ambulance)
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:27 am
by Maycontainnuts
Job Description
Pilot - VEH000461
Employment Type: Permanent Full-time
Location(s): Saskatoon and Area-Saskatoon Ministry: 013 Government Services
Hourly In-Scope Salary Range: $36.061 - $45.185
Grade: SGEU.10.
The Saskatchewan Ministry of Government Services, Air Ambulance Services, has an opportunity for a qualified Pilot located in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. Air Ambulance is a 24/7 emergency medical air evacuation to provincial and national destinations in compliance with Canadian Aviation Regulations (CAR's).
The successful candidate will be responsible to provide customer services by piloting several different aircraft and participating as a team member in delivering the highest level of service in an environment that stresses safety, security and comfort.
As the successful candidate you will have the following qualifications:
•A Valid Airline Transport Pilot License;
•A minimum of 3000 hours of flying time with at least 1500 as pilot-in-command of multi-engine aircraft;
•Extensive instrument flying including the use of GPS/FMS navigation equipment;
•Experience in northern domestic and high density airspace;
•Experience in King Air B200, or other multi-engine turbine powered aircraft; and
•Able to successfully pass an IRT/PPC on King Air B200.
Due to the nature of flight operations, it is not uncommon for pilots to have unusual work hours.
We are committed to workplace diversity
Competition Type: Limited
Hours of Work: C - SGEU Regulated 37.33 - one day off every three weeks
Shift: Variable
Criminal Record Check Requirement: The successful candidate shall be subject to a Criminal Record Check as a condition of employment
Number of Openings: 1
Closing Date: 11/05/2010
Questions about this competition? Contact:
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Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:39 am
by FlaplessDork
Did I read this right ? One day off every 3 weeks for medevac? Yikes.
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:58 am
by into the blue
Hourly In-Scope Salary Range: $36.061 - $45.185
If that's for a duty hour, then it's not bad at all. The schedule is still brutal through.
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:16 pm
by fish4life
if I'm not mistaken you either need 3 days off in 17 or 36hours off every 7 days so the schedule seems fishy to me
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:38 pm
by atpilot
Questions about this competition? Contact:
StaffingTeamA@gov.sk.ca
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:48 pm
by Ralliart
The bit about one day off every 3 weeks is not referring to the schedule. This is a government job, it's referring to "earned days off". Look it up if you want to.
The schedule would be based on working roughly 37.33 hrs a week with normal days off just like every other typical 5 day a week job.
Seriously, use some common sense.
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:49 pm
by merlin
some government employees work 37.33 hrs a week, which means that get an extra day off every 3 weeks. this is in over and above their weekends. I believe this may be what it is referring to, how it works into a pilot schedule I dont know.
Actaully sounds like a pretty good job for the right person.
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:51 pm
by Ralliart
Based on the minimum hourly rate, the annual salary for this position looks like it would be at least 63k+
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:56 pm
by Widow
Having looked up (
http://www.psc.gov.sk.ca/Default.aspx?D ... 786c3756af ) I take it that this is also a way of making it possible for a less than "full time" worker ( i.e. less than 40hrs/week) be eligible for full benefits.
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:10 pm
by North Shore
If you feel it's a joke, then feel free to not apply

Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:20 pm
by turbo-prop
fish4life wrote:if I'm not mistaken you either need 3 days off in 17 or 36hours off every 7 days so the schedule seems fishy to me
Actually it is a 703 operation so they could do 3 0ff in 30 days your quoting 704.
Don't worry I think it was posted because they have to, position will be filled internally. And yes you would get more than 1 day off every 3 weeks.
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:35 pm
by flyinggreasemonkey
If you don't like it, don't apply...
I'd kill for $36,000 a year. If you have a job, be happy you do and stop whining about pay.
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:55 pm
by North Shore
Is it a 703 op? It's Government so it could be running under 604..
And, the way my math works: 37.33hrs (One week) x 52 weeks (one year) x $36.061 (hourly) =$70k plus benefits. Not a bad gig, IMHO, but then I'm biased a little...
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:46 pm
by winston
Factor in the 2 a.m. call in the middle of a Saskatchewan Winter to go single pilot to La Loche into that pay scale though.....
That being said, I've heard it is a great gig for the right people and a brand new B200 to help you.
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:59 pm
by Legacy
flyinggreasemonkey wrote:If you don't like it, don't apply...
I'd kill for $36,000 a year. If you have a job, be happy you do and stop whining about pay.
I am surprised you haven't had a million people come down your throat for saying that! Your response is one of the primary reasons for problems in our industry.
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:59 am
by eyespie
Legacy wrote:flyinggreasemonkey wrote:If you don't like it, don't apply...
I'd kill for $36,000 a year. If you have a job, be happy you do and stop whining about pay.
I am surprised you haven't had a million people come down your throat for saying that! Your response is one of the primary reasons for problems in our industry.
+1
"I'd kill for $36,000 a year"
Sad.
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:12 am
by turbo-prop
North Shore wrote:Is it a 703 op? It's Government so it could be running under 604..
Yes it is government but it is run under 703.
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:38 am
by The Old Fogducker
Superb equipment, no scrimping on training money, no pressure to break regs, decent salary, good town with all the perks of civilization, doing a job where you are "working for the forces of good," and should be a job you could do til retirement if you go into it with the right attitude.
Like Fire Bombing, you'll spend a long time sitting, waiting for the phone to ring ... looking at the same old walls, dealing with your colleagues in close quarters with the same people .... for years, and years, and years.
One or two "verbal mis-steps" or practical jokes gone bad could cause ill-feelings that last an entire working career. The "ability to get along" would rank high on the Personal Suitability section of the job application.
Give it some serious consideration.
The Old Fogducker
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:40 am
by flyinggreasemonkey
[quote="eyespie"][quote="Legacy"][quote="flyinggreasemonkey"]If you don't like it, don't apply...
I'd kill for $36,000 a year. If you have a job, be happy you do and stop whining about pay.[/quote]
I am surprised you haven't had a million people come down your throat for saying that! Your response is one of the primary reasons for problems in our industry.[/quote]
+1
"I'd kill for $36,000 a year"
Sad.[/quote]
I don't understand why people are blaming pilots for low wages. If you want to fly and make the big bucks, make yourself qualified to do so. You don't see PEng's complaining that their employer didn't pay for their masters degree, so why do pilots complain that they don't get a PPC paid for?
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....(SK Air Ambulan
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:58 pm
by tbaylx
Cause a Peng doesn't have to pay for a new degree every time he switches jobs....troll.
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....(SK Air Ambulan
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:10 pm
by turbo-prop
Most pilots are complaining about paying for their schooling (private, commercial, instrument, multi). But then pay for a job after isn't right. But to get back on to the topic the job would be an excellent job for someone not wanting to go to the airlines. Full benefits and a pension. And like oldfogducker said great equipment.
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....(SK Air Ambulan
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:52 pm
by The Old Fogducker
Yes Turbo-Prop, I always wondered why if it was expected that you would pay for all licences and ratings, ....and be congratulated for being up-front and looking after your own affairs, not expecting daddy to ante up for flight training, ....why the line seems to be drawn at paying for a type rating.
I know of several who left the Canadian job scene, went to the US and paid for Type Rating training on Boeing products at various training outfits, and started working overseas almost immediately. One of them has a beautiful home overlooking the Mediterreanan, and more power to him for having the intestinal fortitude for taking the risk and having the self confidence to pay for training to increase his knowledge and professional qualifications twenty plus years ago.
The Old Fogducker
edited ..... I should add those guys left Canada back in the day when CP and AC practised age discrimination and had an unofficial cut-off age of 29 for hiring. If you had turned 30, you may as well have turned 130 as far as they were concerned, and you were never going to make into the ranks of the big iron and fat wallets if you missed the hiring boom because of the date on your Birth Certificate.
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....(SK Air Ambulan
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:42 am
by Prairie Chicken
Hi Widow ... re 'full time' employee ... fed employees & I'm pretty sure the SK Gov't. all work 37.5 hours/week & are certainly 'full time'--at least, I've never heard any complaints about their benefits.

Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....(SK Air Ambulan
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:57 am
by The Old Fogducker
Yup .... as described by Prairie Chicken ... 37 decimal something hours on an average, plus O/T plus typical benefits package (the Air Am pilots are often described as having big packages,) and a pension program. Slight downside is ... as a 24/7 operation, shift work is involved.
OFD
Re: Someone please tell me this is a joke....(SK Air Ambulan
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:05 pm
by Green Onions
Would be a great job.... if only in a city I want to live in.
