skyregional delayed

[rigpiggy]

How much you want to bet, theTPA wanted a 5 yr lease.

http://pilotcareercenter.com/Aviation-P ... ity+Launch

Air Canada has no schedule for starting to fly from Toronto's downtown airport after failing to reach a deal with the terminal operator in time for the February launch it had planned.

The country's No. 1 airline said negotiations are continuing with City Centre Terminal Corporation to lease space at Billy Bishop Airport, but it would not identify the issues in contention.

Billy Bishop is a small airport on Toronto Island in Lake Ontario, close to the city's core.

"We are not in a position to confirm a revised timeline for start-up, but suffice it to say we look forward to resuming service as soon as possible," Air Canada spokesman Peter Fitzpatrick said.

The airline had planned to offer up to 15 daily nonstop flights from the airport.

Air Canada flights will be operated by Sky Regional Airlines, a switch from Air Canada's regional carrier, Chorus Aviation, which flew from the airport until 2006 under its previous name Jazz Air.

Sky is a regional operator that won Air Canada's competitive bid to operate the Island airport service.

Air Canada has said flights will be operated with Bombardier Q400 turboprop aircraft and that it intends to lease five of the planes.

Privately owned regional carrier Porter Airlines currently has a monopoly on flights from the Island airport. Porter chief executive Robert Deluce also heads City Centre Terminal Corporation, which is in talks with Air Canada.

Deluce said the negotiations are confidential and he could not discuss details.

"We understand that Sky Regional is still in the process of finalising licensing with Transport Canada," he said. "This licensing is required before any service can begin."

Air Canada lost a court fight last summer against the Toronto Port Authority, the federal agency that owns and operates the Island airport, and Porter Airlines to get additional flying slots at Billy Bishop.

The port authority announced in June that Porter had secured 44 of 90 new slots, Air Canada 30, and US-based Continental Airlines 16. Air Canada had argued the allocation process was flawed.

[Dark Helmet]

Oh Okay,

So that is the excuse thay are going with.....

[genetic jack hammer]

That and they're spending on their time and resources on C2 travel priority for Jazz employees. Priorities man, priorities...

[acmech777]

I hear Jazz employees will be C4 by the end of Feb?

[Localizer]

I hear Jazz employees will be C4 by the end of Feb?

TROLL ALERT!!!!

[TopperHarley]

I hear Jazz employees will be C4 by the end of Feb?

I want to be C69

[Inverted2]

Yanni is so handsome. More femine than Fabio, even with the moustache.

[TopperHarley]

Im jealous of his hair, not just his piano skills.

[aileron]

Yanni is so handsome. More femine than Fabio, even with the moustache.

Oh man, I need to get my eyes checked... I thought that was Doug Henning!

[flyinhigh]

Actually you guys are all wrong, I hear that we're loosing all pass privies, and won't be aloud to step foot on an aircanada flight until we all quit Jazz, and work for WJ.

[justwork]

[aerodude]

Any news? Looks like they missed the boat on the operating certificate and might get quite delayed.

[swervin]

So is there any price Cap that Deluce can charge AC for the use of their Terminal? I don't see YTZ service happening anytime soon with AC.

[airmech07]

I work at jazz and it seems like they have accelerated their delivery of the q400 and getting all the training done asap. Maybe a push to work out of the island temporary?

[mattedfred]

My understanding was that the original delivery date for the first Q was the end of May. Has that been moved up?

The pilot group won't find out who will be awarded the Q until at least February 11th.

[Inverted2]

Could operate out of the island next week with our "Classic" -8's

[Brick Head]

Unable to negotiate space with the TPA. Imagine that?

I suspect AC won't be on the Island for quite some time. It will probably take a court order for access.

There was a request to operate out of YYZ. That is on hold pending a contract with ACPA allowing it. Skyregional has ceased training for the moment as a result.

[rudder]

Unable to negotiate space with the TPA. Imagine that?

I suspect AC won't be on the Island for quite some time. It will probably take a court order for access.

There was a request to operate out of YYZ. That is on hold pending a contract with ACPA allowing it. Skyregional has ceased training for the moment as a result.

It is NOT the TPA. It is City Centre Terminal Corporation (CCTC) headed by Deluce.

What purpose would it serve to relocate the planned operation to YYZ? Are the flights intended to supplement or replace current Rapidair lift?

This commercial mini train wreck is in part self-inflicted. Too many variables and not enough foresight.

[sanjet]

According the the financial post, CCTC won't even discuss with sky regional until they have an operating certificate. Im surprised they didnt even get one yet. Pearson here they come.

http://wwwavcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=70890

Position: Lineservice Attendant
Posting Date: January 24, 2011
Closing Date: February 25, 2011
Location: Toronto - YYZ
Available: Immediate
Schedule: Various

[Localizer]

There is nothing to be concerned about at Jazz ... its a SkyRegional Q400 operating the same route as an Air Canada 320/767/330/777 .. if anyone should be concerned, shouldn't it be the Air Canada pilots?

Cheers.

[Brick Head]

This commercial mini train wreck is in part self-inflicted. Too many variables and not enough foresight.

In part self inflicted? Deluce isn't going to just let AC in. It is pretty clear. Now it is the license issue. Next it will be another issue. The high priced adults couldn't see this? As of Feb 1, they are probably paying Skyregional, when they have nowhere to operate. No OC. And no agreement with ACPA. The YYZ request is simply because they see the writing on the wall. Skyregional will not operate anytime soon if it waits for the island.

What I see is leverage.

[Brick Head]

There is nothing to be concerned about at Jazz ... its a SkyRegional Q400 operating the same route as an Air Canada 320/767/330/777 .. if anyone should be concerned, shouldn't it be the Air Canada pilots?

Cheers.

Localizer,

They can't do anything without our consent. Why would we consent to that? However I am pleased AC made this request in the middle of negots over scope. It brings the issue front and center.

[rudder]

What I see is leverage.

On one hand, parties represent that ACPA has 'leverage' on the Tier II scope issue. On the other hand, parties represent that ACPA has no business restricting AC from sourcing unlimited Tier II carriers. Problem is - the 'parties' are both apparently represented by ACPA. No wonder everybody is confused.

Now there is an airline that committed to operating a new equipment type on a new route structure requiring extensive regulatory approval on a very aggressive timeline and succeeded. And it wasn't SkyRegional et caveat emptor

[Brick Head]

On one hand, parties represent that ACPA has 'leverage' on the Tier II scope issue. On the other hand, parties represent that ACPA has no business restricting AC from sourcing unlimited Tier II carriers. Problem is - the 'parties' are both apparently represented by ACPA. No wonder everybody is confused.

You know rudder you have a keen ability to cut right to the point. That is probably a very accurate description of just how divided the membership and union is on the issue.

[Localizer]

Hey Brick,

I was responding to another post that got edited. But realistically .. why would ACPA want SkyRegional to operate out of Pearson?! .. Theoretically their now taking away ACPA jobs, no?! .. YYZ-YUL .. that makes no sense .. operating out of the island sure, but Pearson?! .. This whole thing is getting ridiculous and someone needs to put the brakes on.

I don't see leverage anymore .. I see a train-wreck coming towards all parties.