Air Canada plane makes emergency landing at Pearson
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An Air Canada Boeing 777 passenger jet made an emergency landing at Toronto's Pearson International Airport on Monday afternoon, after declaring an in-flight emergency.
The Japan-bound plane took off from Toronto at 2:10 p.m. ET, and made its emergency landing at 3:53 p.m. ET. The plane's flight number is 001.
Air Canada spokesperson Peter Fitzpatrick told CBC News that the plane had an “engine shutdown” that occurred shortly after takeoff.
The crew then followed “standard procedures for dealing with the situation,” which saw them request an emergency landing.
Fitzpatrick said the plane had 318 passengers and 16 crew on board when it landed on Runway 23.
“The aircraft landed normally and it has just taxied to the gate and we’ll be looking into it to see what exactly happened,” he said.
Peel Regional Police have received reports of debris falling while the plane was in the air, but they have yet to be confirmed.
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CBC News reports they dumped fuel over Prince Edward County -- if true, wouldn't there be an option to dump out over Lake Ontario?? Away from people?
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If done high enough it will evapourate before it hits the ground.
Looks like they dumped over the lake...
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA1 ... /CYYZ/CYYZ
Looks like they dumped over the lake...
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA1 ... /CYYZ/CYYZ
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Cool. I should just ignore the Friggin media.
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Compared to the incident in AMS a few weeks ago, this is how the pros do it.
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just saw this on the news, sounds like maybe an un-contained engine failure?
i agree with the above take everyhting in the media with an appropriate amount of salt, i also heard something on there about the approach and landing being made at "twice the normal speed"
i agree with the above take everyhting in the media with an appropriate amount of salt, i also heard something on there about the approach and landing being made at "twice the normal speed"

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Look guys, I hate to break it to you, but unless there was threat from above in big print or a chance of flaming wreckage in the small print you are not going to hold the interest of the common mouth breathing troglodyte.
It's like going to Wal-Mart and complaining about people in track pants.
It's like going to Wal-Mart and complaining about people in track pants.
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Yeah, saw the dude on CBC saying "twice the normal speed " - sheesh.
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Twice the normal speed at max landing weight for a 777? Wouldn't that be like 260-280 knots?
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Yeah, they touched down in Toronto and had it stopped by the time they hit Hamilton. 

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I did a bit of diverting today coming out of YTZ because of this. I was told the dump would take place on the 090 radial between 20-50DME from YYZ...
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Even the engines have gone on strike!!!
Nice job by the crew!
Nice job by the crew!
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I believe everything I see in the media:

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Man, I really wish these reporters would get their facts straight.ogopogo wrote:Yeah, saw the dude on CBC saying "twice the normal speed " - sheesh.
One (rather mangled) quote from the Ottawa Sun:
"Burnstein said Air Canada taxied passengers to end of the runway after the plane landed safely. Emergency crews, according to the captain, examined the brakes, which had to cool down."
Come to think of it, I remember watching a documentary where Boeing was doing a qualification test on one of their new jets. They loaded up to maximum takeoff weight with concrete blocks in the passenger compartment and then began a takeoff run which was aborted after a specified speed. No reverse thrust, only brakes which had previously been milled down to the minimum acceptable. Then with the brakes glowing red hot, they had to taxi for 5 minutes (with fire trucks following closely) after which the special plugs in the tires all melted to let the air out slowly. None of the tires blew out, and there was no fire and the qualification test was passed.
So for the emergency landing at Pearson, the crew touched down after dumping enough fuel to be at a safe weight, and then used only the brakes to slow down and stop? It would be quite a challenge to control your heading on the runway if you had reverse thrust from only one engine.
Good job by the crew getting down safely.
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Great job to the crew!
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One hour, 43 minutes on one engine! I know next to nothing about these sort of procedures with a heavy, but isn't that a pretty good chunk of time? I'm guessing though, the 777 could probably sustain the full flight on a single engine if need be.
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It's really not that inaccurate.
The speeds would have been higher than normal. First possibly less flap used for the landing (flaps 20 or 30) and they would be at max landing weight after dumping fuel. Therefore the speeds would be higher though not likely double. Using one reverser on landing is quite normal and directional control is not an issue on a dry runway. The brakes would have been hotter due to the higher landing weights and approach speed if 20 flap was used. The crew has a brake temp indication and would have wanted the brakes to be inspected if the temps were up to ensure no fire or fusible plugs melted. They can also see them on the main gear cameras on the flight deck MFD's.
Fuel dump can take a long time depending on how much fuel they want to dump. An hour to complete the whole procedure is nothing unusual and the airplane flies just fine for any length of time on one engine. Fuel dump is usually completed above 4000' agl, that will allow all the fuel to vaporize prior to reaching the ground, so it really doesn't matter if its over land or water.
The speeds would have been higher than normal. First possibly less flap used for the landing (flaps 20 or 30) and they would be at max landing weight after dumping fuel. Therefore the speeds would be higher though not likely double. Using one reverser on landing is quite normal and directional control is not an issue on a dry runway. The brakes would have been hotter due to the higher landing weights and approach speed if 20 flap was used. The crew has a brake temp indication and would have wanted the brakes to be inspected if the temps were up to ensure no fire or fusible plugs melted. They can also see them on the main gear cameras on the flight deck MFD's.
Fuel dump can take a long time depending on how much fuel they want to dump. An hour to complete the whole procedure is nothing unusual and the airplane flies just fine for any length of time on one engine. Fuel dump is usually completed above 4000' agl, that will allow all the fuel to vaporize prior to reaching the ground, so it really doesn't matter if its over land or water.
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http://www.geaviation.com/press/ge90/ge90_19961003.htmlDanWEC wrote:One hour, 43 minutes on one engine! I know next to nothing about these sort of procedures with a heavy, but isn't that a pretty good chunk of time? I'm guessing though, the 777 could probably sustain the full flight on a single engine if need be.
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Air Canada jet involved in two other mishaps
Published On Tue May 29 2012
The airplane that spewed metal debris before making an emergency landing in Toronto on Monday was involved in two other seemingly unrelated incidents in the last three years, according to Transport Canada reports.
Air Canada Flight 001 was headed for Japan when one of two engines shut down. Pieces of metal from inside the turbine came out the back and littered Peel Region.
The Boeing 777 made an emergency landing at Pearson International airport after being in the air for about an hour and a half.
Reports from Transport Canada’s Civil Aviation Daily Occurrence Reporting System, known as CADORS, give details of the two other incidents.
After landing at Charles De Gaulle airport in Paris, France, on March 30, 2010, “smoke and flames were observed” coming out of the aircraft’s auxiliary power unit, a small jet engine that powers aircraft systems on the ground.
The crew switched off the APU. Emergency crews attended and followed the aircraft to the gate. The report notes there was “no damage.”
On June 9, 2009, the plane struck six geese as it landed at Vancouver International airport on a flight from Hong Kong.
The damage, listed as “minor” on the report, included dents to the “fan nose cowl” and damage to four fan blades on its Number 2 engine.
“The aircraft will be out of service until the damage is fully determined and repaired,” the report reads.
“I have not seen those reports,” Air Canada spokesperson Peter Fitzpatrick told the Star in an interview.
“While we do not know yet exactly what occurred Monday, it was clearly an engine malfunction. I do not see how that relates to those previous issues,” Fitzpatrick said.
Officials from the Transportation Safety Board of Canada confirmed that pieces of metal from the turbine blades flew out the back of the engine. Investigators are trying to find out why that happened.
Fitzpatrick said that the latest incident is unrelated to the March closure of Aveos, a leading though financially troubled aircraft maintenance service whose main client was Air Canada.
The last major check of the Boeing aircraft, not including the engine, was performed in April by a company called Haico in Hong Kong as part of its regular schedule, Fitzpatrick said.
The engines get their own regular maintenance “all the time and that’s up to date,” he added.
Air Canada has 17 Boeing 777 planes, out of its fleet of 202 aircraft.
According to a preliminary Transport Canada report on the incident, the two-engine Boeing 777-333 was climbing though 1,000 feet after take-off from Pearson when the crew heard a loud bang. The cockpit instruments also showed a rapid rise in the temperature in the number two engine. As a result, the engine’s electronic controls shut down the engine, according to the report.
The pilots ran through their checklist to secure the engine. Because the jet was heavily laden with fuel for its trans-Pacific flight, the pilots had to jettison fuel for about an hour to reduce the landing weight of the big Boeing.
The jet landed without incident back at Pearson with airport fire crews standing by. However the jet had to wait on the runway for almost two hours to allow its brakes to cool after the exertion of slowing the still heavily laden aircraft to a stop.
“Debris from the failed engine struck several cars on the ground causing damage, but there were no reported injuries,” the report said.
Investigators from the Transportation Safety Board responded to the incident to document the damage to the General Electric GE90-115B engine. It has been removed from the aircraft and will be sent to the manufacturer in a bid to determine the reason for the failure, according to the Transport Canada report.
With files from Vanessa Lu and Bruce Campion-Smith[/quote]
Published On Tue May 29 2012
The airplane that spewed metal debris before making an emergency landing in Toronto on Monday was involved in two other seemingly unrelated incidents in the last three years, according to Transport Canada reports.
Air Canada Flight 001 was headed for Japan when one of two engines shut down. Pieces of metal from inside the turbine came out the back and littered Peel Region.
The Boeing 777 made an emergency landing at Pearson International airport after being in the air for about an hour and a half.
Reports from Transport Canada’s Civil Aviation Daily Occurrence Reporting System, known as CADORS, give details of the two other incidents.
After landing at Charles De Gaulle airport in Paris, France, on March 30, 2010, “smoke and flames were observed” coming out of the aircraft’s auxiliary power unit, a small jet engine that powers aircraft systems on the ground.
The crew switched off the APU. Emergency crews attended and followed the aircraft to the gate. The report notes there was “no damage.”
On June 9, 2009, the plane struck six geese as it landed at Vancouver International airport on a flight from Hong Kong.
The damage, listed as “minor” on the report, included dents to the “fan nose cowl” and damage to four fan blades on its Number 2 engine.
“The aircraft will be out of service until the damage is fully determined and repaired,” the report reads.
“I have not seen those reports,” Air Canada spokesperson Peter Fitzpatrick told the Star in an interview.
“While we do not know yet exactly what occurred Monday, it was clearly an engine malfunction. I do not see how that relates to those previous issues,” Fitzpatrick said.
Officials from the Transportation Safety Board of Canada confirmed that pieces of metal from the turbine blades flew out the back of the engine. Investigators are trying to find out why that happened.
Fitzpatrick said that the latest incident is unrelated to the March closure of Aveos, a leading though financially troubled aircraft maintenance service whose main client was Air Canada.
The last major check of the Boeing aircraft, not including the engine, was performed in April by a company called Haico in Hong Kong as part of its regular schedule, Fitzpatrick said.
The engines get their own regular maintenance “all the time and that’s up to date,” he added.
Air Canada has 17 Boeing 777 planes, out of its fleet of 202 aircraft.
According to a preliminary Transport Canada report on the incident, the two-engine Boeing 777-333 was climbing though 1,000 feet after take-off from Pearson when the crew heard a loud bang. The cockpit instruments also showed a rapid rise in the temperature in the number two engine. As a result, the engine’s electronic controls shut down the engine, according to the report.
The pilots ran through their checklist to secure the engine. Because the jet was heavily laden with fuel for its trans-Pacific flight, the pilots had to jettison fuel for about an hour to reduce the landing weight of the big Boeing.
The jet landed without incident back at Pearson with airport fire crews standing by. However the jet had to wait on the runway for almost two hours to allow its brakes to cool after the exertion of slowing the still heavily laden aircraft to a stop.
“Debris from the failed engine struck several cars on the ground causing damage, but there were no reported injuries,” the report said.
Investigators from the Transportation Safety Board responded to the incident to document the damage to the General Electric GE90-115B engine. It has been removed from the aircraft and will be sent to the manufacturer in a bid to determine the reason for the failure, according to the Transport Canada report.
With files from Vanessa Lu and Bruce Campion-Smith[/quote]
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First post - Up to now i've been observing, learning, reading, more observing....
I was watching CP24 yesterday and noticed that they had decided to "collect" some pieces of the engine (I imagine fan blade fragments) and use them to enhance their "breaking news segment" by holding them up and exclaiming "exclusively on cp24"
I may be wrong but isn't that akin to showing up at a crime scene and collecting spent shells? Wouldn't the TSB want all of the airplane? Seems pretty careless of a news outlet....Just wanted Av Canada's collective opinion. I was pretty surprised however I am a lowly student who only knows enough to get myself into trouble.
Thoughts?
I was watching CP24 yesterday and noticed that they had decided to "collect" some pieces of the engine (I imagine fan blade fragments) and use them to enhance their "breaking news segment" by holding them up and exclaiming "exclusively on cp24"

I may be wrong but isn't that akin to showing up at a crime scene and collecting spent shells? Wouldn't the TSB want all of the airplane? Seems pretty careless of a news outlet....Just wanted Av Canada's collective opinion. I was pretty surprised however I am a lowly student who only knows enough to get myself into trouble.
Thoughts?