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From a very successful CEO :mrgreen:



"He maintains WestJet would have abandoned the plan if it hadn’t won the support of its employees, which it did overwhelmingly this spring.

He said that was accomplished because of a simple message WestJet consistently impresses upon its employees: Take care of your employees, and they’ll take care of the business. The business will take care of shareholders. When the shareholders are happy, the company is doing well, that allows it to grow, which takes care of employees.

“It’s a virtuous cycle,” he said."
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Do you really believe that? It's easy to say that after the fact.....but a plan as large and as ambitious as that? No way....it was going to be done with or without employee assent!!
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torx wrote:Do you really believe that? It's easy to say that after the fact.....but a plan as large and as ambitious as that? No way....it was going to be done with or without employee assent!!
Regardless, West Jet does take care of its employees and it is reflected in the way they do business. This is a completely foreign concept to a group of management flunkies at AC who are firmly entrenched in their belief that an US AGAINST THEM mentality is a successful business plan.
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Norwegianwood wrote:Take care of your employees, and they’ll take care of the business. The business will take care of shareholders. When the shareholders are happy, the company is doing well, that allows it to grow, which takes care of employees.

“It’s a virtuous cycle,” he said."
A much better business plan than just trying every scheme available to line the pockets of the temporary management and political hacks with the fruits of the employees lifelong work.
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Unfortunately in my experience the "US VERSUS THEM" attitude is even more prevalent from the ACPA leadership and a number of its' members. No doubt that a large corporate entity such as Air Canada needs to work on its' employee relations in order to improve moral ... however in my experience I can say that the Air Canada management I report to and work for in YVR is top notch and are truly there for their pilots. It's my assosiation that leaves me shaking my head.
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JZA wrote:however in my experience I can say that the Air Canada management I report to and work for in YVR is top notch and are truly there for their pilots.
The flight operations management, especially the lower tier of them, are in the same boat the rest of us are in and are for the most part good people. Unfortunately they have no say in how the corporation regards or treats its employees. That can only come from the CEO.
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JZA what is your experience with ACPA leadership?
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Now here is a concept. An airline CEO actually taking some responsibility for his airline. Note that its the "fall in profits" that is triggering this, not an ever increasing loss as is the case with AC. Calin has mentioned Qantas and its LCC as a great example of a model to follow. Think he'll follow this part of the plan?

Qantas: Alan Joyce to forgo bonus and pay rise

August 19, 2012 - BBC News

Alan Joyce, chief executive of Qantas, has said he will forgo his bonus and pay rise after a sharp plunge in the airline's profits.

Qantas has forecast a 90% fall in its profits for the financial year ending 30 June, amid losses at its international operations and high fuel costs.
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Bored wrote:Now here is a concept. An airline CEO actually taking some responsibility for his airline. Note that its the "fall in profits" that is triggering this, not an ever increasing loss as is the case with AC. Calin has mentioned Qantas and its LCC as a great example of a model to follow. Think he'll follow this part of the plan?

Qantas: Alan Joyce to forgo bonus and pay rise

August 19, 2012 - BBC News

Alan Joyce, chief executive of Qantas, has said he will forgo his bonus and pay rise after a sharp plunge in the airline's profits.

Qantas has forecast a 90% fall in its profits for the financial year ending 30 June, amid losses at its international operations and high fuel costs.
What's that saying about hell freezing over................
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Bored wrote:Now here is a concept. An airline CEO actually taking some responsibility for his airline. Note that its the "fall in profits" that is triggering this, not an ever increasing loss as is the case with AC. Calin has mentioned Qantas and its LCC as a great example of a model to follow. Think he'll follow this part of the plan?

Qantas: Alan Joyce to forgo bonus and pay rise

August 19, 2012 - BBC News

Alan Joyce, chief executive of Qantas, has said he will forgo his bonus and pay rise after a sharp plunge in the airline's profits.

Qantas has forecast a 90% fall in its profits for the financial year ending 30 June, amid losses at its international operations and high fuel costs.
Joyce has been far worse for Qantas than Calin has for AC so far. Qantas mainline is all but doomed. Jetstar is everywhere with foreign divisions in numerous countries. I'm sure Calin would be happy to follow in Joyce's footsteps in every way. I'm just not sure the rest of the AC employees would like it very much.

I wouldn't be holding up Alan Joyce as a shining example of airline leadership if I were you.
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Joe Blow Schmo wrote:I wouldn't be holding up Alan Joyce as a shining example of airline leadership if I were you.
+1

Joyce's pay last year was 71% higher than the previous year. He earned $5 million, up from $2.9 million, all while seeking wage concessions from Qantas employees.
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fingersmac wrote:
Joe Blow Schmo wrote:I wouldn't be holding up Alan Joyce as a shining example of airline leadership if I were you.
+1

Joyce's pay last year was 71% higher than the previous year. He earned $5 million, up from $2.9 million, all while seeking wage concessions from Qantas employees.
Which proves one thing, pilots/fa's/mechanics/agents/etc. look after millions of pax safely every day of the year...........

These guy's just look after #1 :supz:
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Latest nail in the QANTAS coffin and perhaps another glimpse at the future of AC.


http://www.france24.com/en/20120823-qan ... mic-crisis
Australia’s flagship airline Qantas has cancelled its order for 35 Boeing aircraft in order to cut costs after reporting a $256 million-annual loss amid rising fuel costs, union battles and deterioration of the carrier’s global operating conditions.


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AFP - Australian carrier Qantas on Thursday posted its first annual loss since privatisation in 1995 and cancelled orders for 35 Boeing jets as high fuel costs and industrial action hammered its bottom line.

The airline announced a net loss of Aus$244 million (US$256 million), a half-billion-dollar reverse from a net profit of Aus$250 million in the previous 12 months.

Its underlying profit before tax in the year to June 30 -- the airline's preferred measure of financial performance -- was Aus$95 million, down from Aus$552 million.

Revenue was Aus$15.7 billion and on the plus side the national flag carrier said it had a Aus$3.4 billion cash balance.

The dismal result was expected after warnings from Qantas that its international arm was struggling due to a deterioration in global operating conditions driven by the European economic crisis and high jet fuel bills.

A soaring Australian dollar and a bitter battle with unions over wages and conditions that saw chief executive Alan Joyce ground the entire fleet for 48 hours in October also cost the airline dearly.

Despite this, Qantas's share price was 4.2 percent higher at Aus$1.22 in early afternoon trade, with investors pleased with the decision to cancel an order for 35 Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner aircraft.

"Qantas has been through an exceptional period in its history over the past 12 months," said Joyce, who will forgo any bonus or pay rise.

"Over the course of the year we made significant progress in advancing the group's strategy -- building on our strong domestic business and frequent flyer programme and growing Jetstar across Asia.

"Qantas' international's turnaround plan is on track and set for improvement in 2012/13."

The airline confirmed a Aus$450m loss at its international arm and said the result was also negatively impacted by record high fuel costs of Aus$4.3 billion, up Aus$645 million on the previous year.

The industrial dispute that brought the airline to a standstill cost Aus$194 million.

The airline, which is fighting to hold on to its coveted investment-grade credit rating, did not offer any forward-looking profit guidance.

But it said the operating environment and economic outlook "remains challenging, volatile and dependent on a number of uncontrollable external factors".

"We will continue to invest capital efficiently as we target greater competitiveness and customer satisfaction to deliver a stronger Qantas group," added Joyce.

To cut costs, Qantas cancelled orders for 35 Boeing 787 Dreamliners, a more fuel-efficient jet, in a decision that represents an US$8.5 billion reduction in capital expenditure at list prices.

While those plane orders were put off, delivery of 15 787s to its budget offshoot Jetstar will continue as planned, with the first aircraft to arrive in the second half of 2012.
This will enable the transfer of Airbus A330 aircraft from Jetstar to Qantas' domestic service, and the eventual retirement of Qantas' Boeing 767 fleet.
"The B787 is an excellent aircraft and remains an important part of our future," said Joyce.

"However, circumstances have changed significantly since our order several years ago. It is vital that we allocate capital carefully across all parts of the group.

"Qantas has always maintained flexibility in its fleet plan and made changes when required."

In a bid to halt the dramatic slide in profits, Joyce earlier this year announced Qantas would split its international arm from its domestic operations.

Each of the two entities will run as separate businesses with their own chief executives and reporting of financial results.
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Each of the two entities will run as separate businesses with their own chief executives and reporting of financial results.
With bonuses and stock options for even more of the boys.
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Don't expect Calin to read this. He's a F----ing moron and can't read. Not even between the lines. You can tell him I said so too.
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mbav8r wrote: A soaring Australian dollar....
With American unfunded liabilities approaching Seventy Trillion and the Debt over Sixteen Trillion.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/fo ... 57217860/1
Our futures and the World Economy are all in the hands of the American Voter. We must all wait the results of the American election and see if the USA continues on the road to Bankruptcy and Default.
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mbav8r wrote:The dismal result was expected after warnings from Qantas that its international arm was struggling due to a deterioration in global operating conditions driven by the European economic crisis and high jet fuel bills.
Right...always something or someone to blame. Yes, oil is back up again over $110/barrel but they won't mention that is was $80/barrel last year, or even $60/barrel in 2009. Oil hedging would aliviate these problem. And besides, Qantas is not the only carrier affected by the oil price! EVERY airline in the world IS.
mbav8r wrote:Despite this, Qantas's share price was 4.2 percent higher at Aus$1.22 in early afternoon trade, with investors pleased with the decision to cancel an order for 35 Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner aircraft.
Pleased? Of course, because investors know what is BEST for an airline they don't even work for. Classic.
mbav8r wrote:While those plane orders were put off, delivery of 15 787s to its budget offshoot Jetstar will continue as planned, with the first aircraft to arrive in the second half of 2012.
Bingo. Just say what you really mean Mr. CEO of Qantas, stop beating around the bush...Sadly this could really happen here as well.....pitch forks and riots I say!! :lol:
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There has been (past tense,) good guys in YZ as well. Unfortunately, if you're not a boot licker your office monkey career comes to an abrupt halt.

Like the old joke;

Q - How do you get fired from Flt Ops Management?

A - Raise your hand at a meeting!

End of the day, Management hates the Employees and the Employees hate the Management. It is not sustainable, as it is the passengers that are the losers.
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