Intervals between 1st and 2nd attempts at Interview

[David Hasselhoff]

Seems like a number of people I have talked to state that most folks are not successful in their 1st attempt yet quite a few make it on the 2nd try in the process...

Was curious as to how long it was between calls from the first interview to calls to return for a 2nd attempt. Curious to also know what people feel they learned in going thru the process the first time that helped them for the second....


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DH

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Seems like a number of people I have talked to state that most folks are not successful in their 1st attempt yet quite a few make it on the 2nd try in the process...

What a ridiculously inefficient and obviously ineffective hiring process.

Sorry. No help here. Just had to say it.

[TheStig]

What a ridiculously inefficient and obviously ineffective hiring process.

Sorry. No help here. Just had to say it.

How it the hiring process ineffective? For that matter how is it inefficient? Air Canada has hired over 1000 pilots since 2005, and roughly 250 this year alone, it must be somewhat efficient at hiring pilots. Of these 1000 I can't think of any that have been involved in major incidents or accidents, so it wouldn't seem that Air Canada is finding bad pilots?

I gather you interviewed and didn't get hired, I know several good pilots who have been turned away, it isn't a reflection on their abilities as a pilot or personal qualities, or yours. However, Air Canada certainly has the right to interview every applicant they can and hire those they like the best. Giving applicants a second chance, if they wish to reapply, doesn't make the system inefficient.

[ogopogo]

I guess the implication was if a candidate is rejected on his first attempt, then he/she did not meet the criteria. Presumably, to get hired on the second attempt the candidate has improved his/her credentials to a more satisfactory level.

The idea of 'pooling' candidates, say hiring the best 8/10 in a pool, I guess makes sense since there are so many applicants?

You could have pretty good credentials, but be #9 in the pool when only 8 are required. I guess the trick is to somehow be near the top of your pool.

[JTF01]

Seems like a number of people I have talked to state that most folks are not successful in their 1st attempt yet quite a few make it on the 2nd try in the process...

Was curious as to how long it was between calls from the first interview to calls to return for a 2nd attempt. Curious to also know what people feel they learned in going thru the process the first time that helped them for the second....

I would not change a thing about how I did when I interviewed. I thought I did well in the face-to-face part, plus that I developed a good rapport with the folks interviewing me. For the computerized tests, I had gotten a good night's sleep the evening before, and answered as honestly as can be. I left the building satisfied with the effort I put in.

Who knows where I went wrong. The people doing the interview process for AC are good folks who make you feel welcome. If I put my name in the hat again, and if I get a second chance, I would prepare exactly the same way I did before.

jt

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What a ridiculously inefficient and obviously ineffective hiring process.

Sorry. No help here. Just had to say it.

How it the hiring process ineffective? For that matter how is it inefficient? Air Canada has hired over 1000 pilots since 2005, and roughly 250 this year alone, it must be somewhat efficient at hiring pilots. Of these 1000 I can't think of any that have been involved in major incidents or accidents, so it wouldn't seem that Air Canada is finding bad pilots?

I gather you interviewed and didn't get hired, I know several good pilots who have been turned away, it isn't a reflection on their abilities as a pilot or personal qualities, or yours. However, Air Canada certainly has the right to interview every applicant they can and hire those they like the best. Giving applicants a second chance, if they wish to reapply, doesn't make the system inefficient.

Actually, I've never interviewed at Air Canada. Sure, I spent the first chunk of my career crossing the "t"s and dotting the "i"s to become the ideal candidate, but missed the boat when the industry tanked in '08. My experiences since then changed my targets enough so that I never pursued it when the music started again. Never say never, but for many reasons Big Red is no longer where I want to be.

As to the inefficiency of the hiring process: Any system that goes to such lengths to determine successful candidates, but then leads to repetitive interviewing of previously rejected candidates is inherently inefficient.

As to the ineffectiveness of the hiring process: Any system that accepts formerly rejected candidates because they have learned how to tweak their answers is inherently ineffective.

My point, really, is that perhaps some of the fat that needs to be cut across the board at AC can begin with streamlining the hiring process.