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Anyone else losing AC Z-fares?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:37 pm
by sstaurus
I work for a small airline that just received a letter stating that Air Canada is cancelling our z-fare/ID travel agreement for "commercial reasons" :evil: Supposedly we aren't the only ones.

Is this happening to any one else out there??

Re: Anyone else losing AC Z-fares?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:48 pm
by FICU
Yup... Another one just got the notice after at least 10 years of having the agreement.

A very big shock to almost 1000 employees!

What is going on?

Re: Anyone else losing AC Z-fares?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:09 pm
by tdp19
Bearskin too

Re: Anyone else losing AC Z-fares?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:47 pm
by bmc
These are space available, last minute tickets. Why?

Re: Anyone else losing AC Z-fares?

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:11 am
by Ki-ll
I wonder how AC employees feel about that. Bearskin also cancelled benefits with them.

Re: Anyone else losing AC Z-fares?

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:18 am
by altiplano
So much for the Flin Flon trip I was saving up for...

Re: Anyone else losing AC Z-fares?

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:42 am
by Kosiw
So life for those who commute just got a whole lot more difficult.

Zed fare deals with AC used to be such a draw for working at companies other than Red or Blue....

Any chance they will come back down road ?

Re: Anyone else losing AC Z-fares?

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:31 am
by natural
Do you guys still have the reciprocal jumpseats with AC at CN and Bearskin?

Re: Anyone else losing AC Z-fares?

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:37 am
by tbaylx
at 5T..yes.

There are no changes to the jumpseat program at the moment that i'm aware of.

Re: Anyone else losing AC Z-fares?

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:40 am
by tbaylx
Kosiw wrote:So life for those who commute just got a whole lot more difficult.

Zed fare deals with AC used to be such a draw for working at companies other than Red or Blue....

Any chance they will come back down road ?
Commuting with a Zed fare can get very expensive. Most guys use reciprocal jump seat agreements to commute, so at company's that have jumpseat agreements it isn't going to affect commuting much. More of a issue for F/A' s and family, or vacation travel.

I was under the impression that it doesn't cost AC anything for ZED fare's..the administration and fees are paid for by the ticket price. Would love to know why they chose to cancel them. Any ideas?

Re: Anyone else losing AC Z-fares?

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:44 am
by natural
Thanx......contamplating applying for the '37 spots. BTW, how long are the upgrades on the'37 these days?

Cheers

Re: Anyone else losing AC Z-fares?

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:11 am
by tbaylx
natural wrote:Thanx......contamplating applying for the '37 spots. BTW, how long are the upgrades on the'37 these days?

Cheers
Around 4 years at the moment..prone to change with no notice :)

Rumours here are that AC cancelled all Zed's with ATAC member airlines in retaliation for ATAC protesting against AC's pension deficit agreement with the fed gov. If true kind of a petty move, but not all that surprising i guess.

Re: Anyone else losing AC Z-fares?

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:25 am
by Ki-ll
tbaylx wrote:
natural wrote:Thanx......contamplating applying for the '37 spots. BTW, how long are the upgrades on the'37 these days?

Cheers
Around 4 years at the moment..prone to change with no notice :)

Rumours here are that AC cancelled all Zed's with ATAC member airlines in retaliation for ATAC protesting against AC's pension deficit agreement with the fed gov. If true kind of a petty move, but not all that surprising i guess.
I heard that Calm Air kept their benefits and they are an ATAC member...

Re: Anyone else losing AC Z-fares?

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:01 am
by tbaylx
Ki-ll wrote:
tbaylx wrote:
natural wrote:Thanx......contamplating applying for the '37 spots. BTW, how long are the upgrades on the'37 these days?

Cheers
Around 4 years at the moment..prone to change with no notice :)

Rumours here are that AC cancelled all Zed's with ATAC member airlines in retaliation for ATAC protesting against AC's pension deficit agreement with the fed gov. If true kind of a petty move, but not all that surprising i guess.
I heard that Calm Air kept their benefits and they are an ATAC member...
Well then if that's true that would pretty much shoot down that rumour. In any case I hope its a temporary thing.

Re: Anyone else losing AC Z-fares?

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:10 pm
by pelmet
Why doesn't somebody just post which airlines lost their Zed fares with AC. This is not top secret stuff.

Re: Anyone else losing AC Z-fares?

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:13 pm
by tbaylx
pelmet wrote:Why doesn't somebody just post which airlines lost their Zed fares with AC. This is not top secret stuff.
Okay i'll go first.

5T lost them, but not the reciprocal jumpseat as far as i know.

Re: Anyone else losing AC Z-fares?

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:49 am
by ski_bum
Calm Air has not had ZED fairs in at least 3 years with AC...