Beech King A100 Beloeil QC
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The one prop in the picture looks like it was turning pretty fast when it hit...
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Re: Beech King A100 Beloeil QC
Beloeil is short, narrow and has tall posts at the
runway edges for light stands. The hangars on
the west side provide interesting turbulence when
the wind is howling out of the southwest.
I can't believe this guy had a balanced field.
I landed a Christen Eagle there, a couple years
back, under pretty nasty conditions. I had to go
around a few times until I had the perfect approach,
which I understand is not an option if you wear a
white shirt (eg Air France 358 yyz).
This is one of my favorite overruns - an oldie,
but a goodie. You won't believe what happens
half-way through the video.
"Maybe they'll taxi it back up on land"
runway edges for light stands. The hangars on
the west side provide interesting turbulence when
the wind is howling out of the southwest.
I can't believe this guy had a balanced field.
I landed a Christen Eagle there, a couple years
back, under pretty nasty conditions. I had to go
around a few times until I had the perfect approach,
which I understand is not an option if you wear a
white shirt (eg Air France 358 yyz).
This is one of my favorite overruns - an oldie,
but a goodie. You won't believe what happens
half-way through the video.
"Maybe they'll taxi it back up on land"
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C-GJSU King Air A100 just registered to new owner Aviation Flycie Inc. / Flycie Aviation Inc. of St. Hubert on April 8 2013. Aircraft was built in 1971 and imported to Canada in 2001.
CSB3 St-Mathieu-De-Beloeil Airport


CBC photo and story
CSB3 St-Mathieu-De-Beloeil Airport


CBC photo and story
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Montreal Gazette reports;
The airplane took off from Saint-Hubert airport, but when the pilot noticed a problem on board, he decided to fly to the smaller airport in Saint-Mathieu-de-Beloeil. The pilot landed on some vacant land near a highway patrol checkpoint, its wings breaking through some electrical wires and branches.
Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Pla ... z2VuLMlMPx
The airplane took off from Saint-Hubert airport, but when the pilot noticed a problem on board, he decided to fly to the smaller airport in Saint-Mathieu-de-Beloeil. The pilot landed on some vacant land near a highway patrol checkpoint, its wings breaking through some electrical wires and branches.
Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Pla ... z2VuLMlMPx
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"in communication with the airport tower" ... beloeil doesn't have a tower, im guessing they mean CYHU tower.
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Sounds like he was looking for the nearest airport. Beleoil is pretty short to begin with, although a balanced field is not a requirement, Beleoil is not the place for a King Air. Shortest I operated a such type was just under 3000 although I believe Air Nunavut has taken their 200 into Grise Fiord at around 2000 feet runway length and its curved approach lights. Cool pictures below...
http://www.airport-data.com/airport/photo/029779.html
http://www.airport-data.com/airport/photo/029780.html
http://www.airport-data.com/airport/photo/029778.html
http://www.google.ca/search?q=grise+fio ... B480%3B480
http://www.airport-data.com/airport/photo/029779.html
http://www.airport-data.com/airport/photo/029780.html
http://www.airport-data.com/airport/photo/029778.html
http://www.google.ca/search?q=grise+fio ... B480%3B480
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http://tvanouvelles.ca/lcn/infos/faitsd ... 74340.html
Apparently both engines stopped 9 min after take-off.
Apparently both engines stopped 9 min after take-off.
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Google translator version of the above news link:

I wonder how they were able to make such a determination so quickly? Just 48 hours? I wonder if they've let the pilots know yet?Less than 48 hours after the crash of a Beech King Air in Beloeil, the investigators from the Transportation Safety Board of Canada (TSB) were able to determine that the two aircraft engines stopped in midair. A situation that is both rare and intriguing.
According to preliminary data collected by the TSB, the unit would have remained in flight nine minutes. The aircraft departed at 17:15 of the Saint-Hubert airport and headed west. The aircraft climbed to 3000 feet. Then, suddenly, the two engines stopped. At 5:26 p.m., the aircraft landed hard in a field along Highway 20 in Beloeil.
"Obviously, it's rare to see it, a plane lost both engines at the same time," says the investigator Pierre Gavillet, Bureau of Transportation Safety, adding that there was not a lot of assumptions that may lead to such a situation.
It might have been running out of fuel. "Of course that's one of the things we're going to look," says the TSB. The place of supply to the reservoirs in the air: everything will be analyzed.
According to investigators, after losing both engines, the pilot attempted to return to the airport of Saint-Hubert before opting for the Beloeil airport. The device has not reached the threshold. However, the operation of the pilot will have saved the lives of four people on board.
On Tuesday, the aircraft was removed from the crash site. It will soon be transported to the TSB Laboratory in Ottawa. The fact that the device has remained relatively intact should facilitate the work of investigators. The manufacturer Beech work to examine the cabin
Were the winds conducive to carburetor icing at the time of the accident?Carburetor icing strikes again!!

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Re: Beech King A100 Beloeil QC
Nope, it was the mags for sure.... aggravated by variable tail winds.
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Every time you say variable tail winds, he, who shall not be named, appears and spouts off new stupidity. 

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Looks like a case of the mixture too lean on climbout. The pilot should have checked wunderground for the local pressure setting.
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The other great part about that one was the registration of the aircraft that replaced it. OY-JET was replaced by OY-WET.Colonel Sanders wrote: This is one of my favorite overruns - an oldie,
but a goodie. You won't believe what happens
half-way through the video.
"Maybe they'll taxi it back up on land"
/edit: reregistered, not replaced. apparently it flew again.
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Was nearly 30C that afternoon.Dagwood wrote:Looks like a case of the mixture too lean on climbout.
"Wunderground" is useful for quick access to weather HISTORY for any particular station. Lots of extra stations listed.The pilot should have checked wunderground for the local pressure setting.
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I don't...I can't...I just don't know if this guy is serious, or a fantastic troll.pdw wrote:Was nearly 30C that afternoon.Dagwood wrote:Looks like a case of the mixture too lean on climbout.
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maybe they forgot that the King Air mixture levers are on the left! "leaning" the condition levers below low idle is generally considered a bad idea, at least while you're in the air!Dagwood wrote:Looks like a case of the mixture too lean on climbout. The pilot should have checked wunderground for the local pressure setting.
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My comment was in jest, but sadly I'm not sure about some of the replies.
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Joking? On an accident thread?
I wasn't offended by the ribbing about Wunderground.
EDIT: removed reference to "lean" in Cold vs Hot ... to avoid misinterpretation (to do with time before overhaul)
Cold temps won't allow ITTs to escape over the limit quite as fast than when its hot. This AC was just purchased in early spring, means the crew is new to this old aircraft. Very fortunate to survive the landing.Diadem wrote:I don't...I can't...I just don't know if this guy is serious, or a fantastic troll.pdw wrote:Was nearly 30C that afternoon.Dagwood wrote:Looks like a case of the mixture too lean on climbout.
I wasn't offended by the ribbing about Wunderground.
EDIT: removed reference to "lean" in Cold vs Hot ... to avoid misinterpretation (to do with time before overhaul)
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Re: Beech King A100 Beloeil QC
PDW.. I think I recall you writing that you fly/flew Cessna Caravans. What's your leaning procedure on the 114/114A?
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GyvAir wrote:PDW.. I think I recall you writing that you fly/flew Cessna Caravans. What's your leaning procedure on the 114/114A?

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My kid always leans out his Cessna Caravan he made out of lego too...Sometimes he crashes too, but I keep telling him it's okay as long as he walked away or put the legs back on the body.GyvAir wrote:PDW.. I think I recall you writing that you fly/flew Cessna Caravans. What's your leaning procedure on the 114/114A?
Re: Beech King A100 Beloeil QC
Can clean the underbelly to make it look a bit leaner.
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Re: Beech King A100 Beloeil QC
Or not enough fuel will make those -28A's run pretty lean too. 

Re: Beech King A100 Beloeil QC
An overhaul procedure can make it leaner (more hp with less consumption).