Air Canada Rouge W13/14 Operations Schedule

[Sunwing738]

Here is Rouge's proposed operations schedule for the winter season.

Air Canada’s new leisure unit rouge today (25JUN13) unveiled planned operation for Winter 2013/14 season, which sees the carrier replacing selected Air Canada Mainline service to Florida, Las Vegas, as well as several Caribbean Islands. Planned schedule and launch date as follow.

New Air Canada rouge Routes:
Toronto – Las Vegas eff 27OCT13 10 weekly 767-300 service (reduced from 14 weekly Mainline A319 service. The remaining 4 weekly Mainline service was closed for reservation on 26JUN13)
AC1851 YYZ0855 – 1051LAS 763 D
AC1853 YYZ2025 – 2221LAS 763 457

AC1852 LAS1145 – 1902YYZ 763 D
AC1854 LAS2320 – 0637+1YYZ 763 457

Toronto – Montego Bay eff 01NOV13 1 daily 767 service
AC1804 YYZ0910 – 1315MBJ 763 D
AC1805 MBJ1415 – 1820YYZ 763 D

Toronto – Orlando eff 25NOV13 3 daily A319 (5 daily from 20DEC13)
AC1862 YYZ0905 – 1205MCO 319 D
AC1866 YYZ1640 – 1931MCO 319 D
AC1868 YYZ2055 – 2346MCO 319 D

AC1861 MCO0800 – 1049YYZ 319 D
AC1865 MCO1305 – 1558YYZ 319 D
AC1869 MCO2030 – 2319YYZ 319 D

Following flights begin from December 2013:
AC1860 YYZ0630 – 0921MCO 319 D 20DEC13-
AC1864 YYZ1200 – 1500MCO 319 D 14DEC13-

AC1863 MCO1020 – 1309YYZ 319 D 20DEC13-
AC1867 MCO1545 – 1838YYZ 319 D 14DEC13-

Toronto – Sarasota eff 30NOV13 2 weekly (1 daily A319 from 18DEC13)
AC1800 YYZ1500 – 1757SRQ 319 D
AC1801 SRQ1850 – 2143YYZ 319 D

Service operates Day 67 from 30NOV13 to 17DEC13

Toronto – St. Kitts eff 09DEC13 1 weekly A319
AC1792 YYZ1025 – 1615SKB 319 1
AC1793 SKB1715 – 2140YYZ 319 1

Toronto – La Romana eff 22DEC13 1 weekly A319
AC1778 YYZ0630 – 1145LRM 319 7
AC1779 LRM1245 – 1625YYZ 319 7

Montreal – Orlando eff 15FEB14 2 daily A319
AC1870 YUL0840 – 1209MCO 319 D
AC1872 YUL1705 – 2034MCO 319 D

AC1871 MCO1305 – 1608YUL 319 D
AC1873 MCO2130 – 0033+1YUL 319 D

Toronto – Curacao eff 28FEB14 1 weekly A319 (Schedule below from 10MAR13)
AC1794 YYZ0800 – 1315CUR 319 5
AC1795 CUR1415 – 1935YYZ 319 5

Toronto – Grenada eff 03MAR14 1 weekly A319 (Schedule below from 10MAR13)
AC1786 YYZ0700 – 1220GND 319 1
AC1787 GND1320 – 1910YYZ 319 1

Toronto – Georgetown eff 09MAR14 1 weekly A319
AC1788 YYZ0730 – 1055GGT 319 7
AC1789 GGT1155 – 1525YYZ 319 7

Montreal – Las Vegas eff 13MAR14 10 weekly A319
AC1855 YUL0740 – 1018LAS 319 D
AC1857 YUL1955 – 2233LAS 319 457

AC1856 LAS1110 – 1858YUL 319 D
AC1858 LAS2325 – 0713+1YUL 319 457

Air Canada rouge in Winter 2013/14 season continues to operate (Frequencies effective 19DEC13):
Toronto – Cayo Coco 2 weekly A319
Toronto – Holguin 1 weekly A319
Toronto – Kingston 5 weekly A319
Toronto – Liberia 3 weekly A319
Toronto – Puerto Plata 1 weekly A319
Toronto – Punta Cana 1 daily A319
Toronto – Samana 2 weekly A319
Toronto – San Jose Costa Rica 5 weekly A319
Toronto – Santa Clara 2 weekly A319
Toronto – Varadero 5 weekly A319

The airline also plans to operate following services but they’re currently displaying Air Canada Mainline service:
Toronto – Cancun
Toronto – Huatulco
Toronto – Puerto Vallarta
Toronto – San Jose/Los Cabos

My main question, is 10 weekly 767 service to Vegas a smart move? In the Rouge 767 seating config its 250 seats. That's 2500 seats per week, opposed to the 14 weekly 319 service at 120 seat config and just under 1700 seats per week. Essentially they are upgrading from 14 weekly 319 service to almost 21 weekly... Given the operating costs of a 767 on a cross country trip compared to that of an A319, are these routes money makers or are they even sustainable for the winter season??

Im not sure how full the mainline flights were to Vegas but this seems like a huge increase in seats to and from LAS.

Right now it is x2 flights per day on Sunday, Thursday and Friday and x1 the rest of the days.

[TheStig]

This schedule isn't comparing last winter to next winter, it's comparing one season (fall) to the next (winter). Mainline 319's are used in the summer to LAS, while 320's, 321's and even 767's have been used in past winters on the YYZ-LAS route. I'd read somewhere else that rouge will actually be flying less daily seats on the YYZ-LAS route this upcoming winter than AC mainline operated in 2012.

[ea306]

Was chatting with an Air Canada Flight Attendant while on a positioning flight on AC... She was telling me that most of the south flying for mainline has or is being transferred to Rouge.

Cost saving measure for AC mainline.

[TheStig]

EA, That's the idea.

The schedule posted is planned with 10 aircraft (2 B767's and 8 A319's). By Dec 2014 rouge will have a fleet of 32, the following December 42 aircraft.

[Sunwing738]

This schedule isn't comparing last winter to next winter, it's comparing one season (fall) to the next (winter). Mainline 319's are used in the summer to LAS, while 320's, 321's and even 767's have been used in past winters on the YYZ-LAS route. I'd read somewhere else that rouge will actually be flying less daily seats on the YYZ-LAS route this upcoming winter than AC mainline operated in 2012.

Opps, I probably should have realized that.

Last winter they ran double daily 321 service. 175 seats each x14 is 2450 seats per week. So really no jump at all. If anything probably more cost effective turning 4 x2 daily flights into 1. We'll see how they do this winter. Still interesting that Cancun hasn't been added to Rouge flights though? Hopefully it'll bring some good competition to WG, WJ and TS.

[Sunwing738]

Just found this while surfing on Air Canada's Website.

http://www.aircanadavacations.com/media ... ule_EN.pdf

Looks like AC Mainline is transferring a ton of routes over to Rouge.

All routes from Toronto to Cuba will be operated by Rouge by the 23rd of December, with the exception of the daily Havana flight.
YYZ-VRA
YYZ-HOG
YYZ-SNU
YYZ-CCC

All routes from Toronto to Dominican Republic will be operated by Rouge by the 22nd of December.
YYZ-PUJ
YYZ-LRM
YYZ-POP
YYZ-AZS

All routes from Toronto to Costa Rica will be operated by Rouge by the 19th of December.
YYZ-LIR
YYZ-SJO

All routes from Toronto to Jamaica will be operated by Rouge by the 1st of November.
YYZ-MBJ
YYZ-KIN

All Routes from Toronto to Mexico will be operated by Rouge by the 25th of December, With the exception of the Daily Mexico City flight, and the Saturday only service to Ixtapa and Cozumel.
YYZ-CUN
YYZ-HUX
YYZ-SJD
YYZ-PVR

Sunday only Toronto - Exuma service will be operated by Rouge as of November 3rd.
Friday only Toronto - Curacao service will be operated by Rouge as of December 20th.
Monday only Toronto - Grenada service will be operated by Rouge as of December 16th.
Monday only Toronto - St. Kitts service will be operated by Rouge as of November 4th.

I would assume a handful of A319's will be transferred to the ACR fleet within the next few weeks. I know they are getting 2 767's very soon, do they plan on operating most of these routes with the 767?