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Flair - Dornier & Embraer

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:00 pm
by Oscar
How many new guys off the street do you think they'll be hiring, I mean with the ex-Shell drivers surely getting first chance. Me thinks the job ads are mostly to satisfy hiring standards and they won't likely need that many new bodies.

How much lower do you want to guess Flair will be paying the same seats once occupied by genuine Shell pilots?

Re: Flair - Dornier & Embraer

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:17 pm
by Airmanship Police
That is complete bullshit and a slap in the face of the ppl that were working at Shell.

Re: Flair - Dornier & Embraer

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:00 pm
by FICU
Did Shell shut down their Embraer and 328 operation?

Re: Flair - Dornier & Embraer

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:46 pm
by Airmanship Police
Does the pope protect pedophiles?

Re: Flair - Dornier & Embraer

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:28 am
by calgaryguy
Airmanship Police wrote:Does the pope protect pedophiles?
You Shell guys have had it good for far too long. How dare you be paid what you're worth. Its about time you were brought down to the level of the rest of us who working too much barely able to put food on the table. It is only fair. After all we do it because we are passionate about aviation right? (Sarcasm)

Re: Flair - Dornier & Embraer

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:13 am
by FICU
I see the news is here: viewtopic.php?f=105&t=92061

Terrible news! I'm sorry to see that and I hope you all find work quickly.

Re: Flair - Dornier & Embraer

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:16 am
by wallflower
Did Flair come out of enhanced monitoring by TC, heard it was touch and go whether they pulled their OC or not.
Hard to believe that Shell would get in to bed with them.
Sure it will be a fiasco.
Cheap and nasty says it all.

Re: Flair - Dornier & Embraer

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:23 am
by Big Pistons Forever
Anyone know what the pay for these positions is ?

Re: Flair - Dornier & Embraer

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:09 pm
by Airmanship Police
^^ 500

Re: Flair - Dornier & Embraer

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:17 am
by looproll
Wow. One day Shell shuts down the EMJ and Dornier operation, the next Flair is scabbing out the jobs. At least that's what is seems like.

Way to pull the carpet out from under the Shell pilots! This is a short-sighted move by some bean counter at Shell that thinks this is a better idea. What a shame!

Re: Flair - Dornier & Embraer

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:34 am
by whiteguy
looproll wrote:Wow. One day Shell shuts down the EMJ and Dornier operation, the next Flair is scabbing out the jobs. At least that's what is seems like.

Way to pull the carpet out from under the Shell pilots! This is a short-sighted move by some bean counter at Shell that thinks this is a better idea. What a shame!
I believe it's the law to advertise for any positions. They could very well hire all the Shell pilots for these spots but they still have to advertise!

Who pulled the carpet out from under the Shell pilots? Flair or Shell?

Re: Flair - Dornier & Embraer

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:06 am
by loopa
From my understanding the current Shell pilot's have absolutely no idea if they are getting on.

Last I heard was interviews and sim eval's for shell pilot's with no guarantee of jobs in sight - even if then, not at the same salary.

Kind of makes you wonder what happened to the contract pilots that quit their jobs to go and "fly for shell" and be given the idea that after a year they will most likely be hired onto shell (performance based) only to find out 3 months later they are out of a job?

Now how long do you guys think Flair will maintain Shell's operation?

Re: Flair - Dornier & Embraer

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:36 am
by Axial Flow
The future is here...soon PAL will be operating for the RCAF, RCMP, and maybe they will get into boats and run the navy....

So how much does this save shell per year ? A million ?

Good luck to the Shell aviation crew, all the best.

Re: Flair - Dornier & Embraer

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:47 am
by 200Above
Now how long do you guys think Flair will maintain Shell's operation?
According to Pilot Career Center, "Flair air has signed 10 year contract to operate these two aircraft on behalf of Shell Canada."

http://www.pilotcareercenter.com/Air-Ca ... /Flair+air

Doesn't sound like a short term move, this was planned out over a decade.