You are hurting my eyes

This forum has been developed to discuss aviation related topics.

Moderators: North Shore, sky's the limit, sepia, Sulako, lilfssister, I WAS Birddog

Post Reply
Big Pistons Forever
Top Poster
Top Poster
Posts: 5926
Joined: Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:17 pm
Location: West Coast

You are hurting my eyes

Post by Big Pistons Forever »

Yes you... the guys that post in text speak. I know I am an old fart and not with it but it I find it very, very, very, annoying to read a post with the texting contractions.

Electrons are free, everybody has a full keyboard on their computer/laptop/tablet/ phone so how about using all the letters for every word. Is that too much to ask ?
---------- ADS -----------
 
sky's the limit
Rank Moderator
Rank Moderator
Posts: 4614
Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:38 am
Location: Now where's the starter button on this thing???

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by sky's the limit »

FWIW, IDK WTF you're talking about. LOL Kids these days - SNAFU. ;-)
---------- ADS -----------
 
User avatar
Beefitarian
Top Poster
Top Poster
Posts: 6610
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:53 am
Location: A couple of meters away from others.

Post by Beefitarian »

Lol
---------- ADS -----------
 
User avatar
PilotDAR
Rank 11
Rank 11
Posts: 4113
Joined: Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:46 pm
Location: Near CNJ4 Orillia, Ontario

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by PilotDAR »

Big Pistons Forever, I quite agree with you. I suppose there are a very few places where abbreviations or acronyms are necessary (not here), but otherwise, it is an indication of your respect for others, that you use English as a tool, and use your tools properly. This goes on to using grammar and punctuation correctly too. If in doubt, read "Eats shoots and leaves".

As an employer, I doubt I would hire a person whom I saw communicating in abbreviations. If they won't communicate with care, what else won't they do with care?
---------- ADS -----------
 
User avatar
Beefitarian
Top Poster
Top Poster
Posts: 6610
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:53 am
Location: A couple of meters away from others.

Post by Beefitarian »

Correct word selection. The difference between, "Your crap." and "You're crap."?
---------- ADS -----------
 
I_Heart_Seaplanes
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 130
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:37 pm

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by I_Heart_Seaplanes »

Proper punctuation saves lives. "Let's eat Grandma!" vs "Let's eat, Grandma!"
---------- ADS -----------
 
North Shore
Rank Moderator
Rank Moderator
Posts: 5621
Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2004 3:47 pm
Location: Straight outta Dundarave...

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by North Shore »

^ Or helping your Uncle Jack, off his horse... :lol:
---------- ADS -----------
 
Plim Sole
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 164
Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:26 pm

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by Plim Sole »

#GoodLuckWithThat!
---------- ADS -----------
 
User avatar
CamAero
Rank 4
Rank 4
Posts: 272
Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:27 am

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by CamAero »

And; beware the double negative, lest you incur a double-entendre...
---------- ADS -----------
 
Attachments
Oct  2013 015.jpg
Oct 2013 015.jpg (79.47 KiB) Viewed 3492 times
TG
Rank 10
Rank 10
Posts: 2102
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:32 am
Location: Around

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by TG »

Big Pistons Forever wrote:Yes you... the guys that post in text speak. I know I am an old fart and not with it but it I find it very, very, very, annoying to read a post with the texting contractions.
Come on! Don't tell us you never heard about text speak before :smt003
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/s ... n-2176.htm
---------- ADS -----------
 
Big Pistons Forever
Top Poster
Top Poster
Posts: 5926
Joined: Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:17 pm
Location: West Coast

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by Big Pistons Forever »

TG wrote:
Big Pistons Forever wrote:Yes you... the guys that post in text speak. I know I am an old fart and not with it but it I find it very, very, very, annoying to read a post with the texting contractions.
Come on! Don't tell us you never heard about text speak before :smt003
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/s ... n-2176.htm
I am not talking about using common abbreviation that are widely used and well understood. What I am talking about is
posters too lazy to type a proper sentence.

TG

I ges ur rite thers no hope so i wil givit up :roll:
---------- ADS -----------
 
sky's the limit
Rank Moderator
Rank Moderator
Posts: 4614
Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:38 am
Location: Now where's the starter button on this thing???

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by sky's the limit »

If it makes you feel any better BPF, when I first started Modding here I'd actually edit people's posts for spelling, grammar, and punctuation... was like pushing an infinite rope, so it wasn't long until that ended!
---------- ADS -----------
 
frozen solid
Rank 7
Rank 7
Posts: 527
Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:29 pm

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by frozen solid »

I'm really sorry if this is offensive to some people, but I urge you all to watch the whole movie. At first it seems like it might be a comedy, but if you watch it carefully you'll see it's part prophecy and part documentary and isn't funny at all.:

http://youtu.be/qkPGlVqqEP0

http://youtu.be/6tBGP7V8CuI
---------- ADS -----------
 
LousyFisherman
Rank 7
Rank 7
Posts: 578
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 8:32 am
Location: CFX2
Contact:

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by LousyFisherman »

BFP, I agree with you, but.. you are just as guilty as the people you complaining about. Lets all please use the spelling of the english language defined by Chaucer, and grammar as defined by Shakespeare. Then we can all write "proper" English.

FFS
LF
---------- ADS -----------
 
westcoastwonder
Rank 1
Rank 1
Posts: 44
Joined: Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:51 am

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by westcoastwonder »

It is a common mistake

Take: Cops for Cancer
Should it not be, Cops Against Cancer?
---------- ADS -----------
 
User avatar
Beefitarian
Top Poster
Top Poster
Posts: 6610
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:53 am
Location: A couple of meters away from others.

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by Beefitarian »

I find it annoying yet mildly amusing when people use Internet memes wrong.

The worst one around here is when someone decides to put in there vote but instead of doing it right they think they're being clever by using a bigger number.
Big Pistons Forever wrote:Yes you... the guys that post in text speak. I know I am an old fart and not with it but it I find it very, very, very, annoying to read a post with the texting contractions.

Electrons are free, everybody has a full keyboard on their computer/laptop/tablet/ phone so how about using all the letters for every word. Is that too much to ask ?
+100
How are a hundred of you using the same computer and in agreement?
---------- ADS -----------
 
User avatar
Beefitarian
Top Poster
Top Poster
Posts: 6610
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:53 am
Location: A couple of meters away from others.

Post by Beefitarian »

The worst part of internet bad grammar is how contagious it is.

I used the wrong form of their in the post above. ^
---------- ADS -----------
 
frozen solid
Rank 7
Rank 7
Posts: 527
Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:29 pm

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by frozen solid »

LousyFisherman wrote:BFP, I agree with you, but.. you are just as guilty as the people you complaining about. Lets all please use the spelling of the english language defined by Chaucer, and grammar as defined by Shakespeare. Then we can all write "proper" English.

FFS
LF
Lousy Fisherman, I see where you are going with this argument, but the difference here is that the language itself has evolved smoothly and gradually from Chaucer's or Shakespeare's eras to the present day and reflects different grammar as spoken (other than the fact that you're talking about prose in both cases, not common speech) and/or different popular spellings. However, regardless of spelling, the written words were communicated using a alphabet. What "text speak" is doing is effectively converting our alphabetic written language into a semi-logography, where single glyphs are used to represent whole words or syllables or even entire sentence fragments. It's not merely a trend that represents current fashion in spelling or pronouncement, (which has always been propagated through mis-spelling) it's a degradation of the written language to a more primitive form, basically indecipherable to anyone other than those "in the know" who currently speak the language in the colloquial fashion. It's literally a degradation of the language, whereas simple deliberate mis-spelling or grammatical quirks such as those that have changed since Chaucer's day only represent differences in the way we speak, not a loss of ability to communicate ideas.
---------- ADS -----------
 
User avatar
dashx
Rank (9)
Rank (9)
Posts: 1227
Joined: Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:51 am

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by dashx »

too lazy to type a proper sentence
text speak
Even if you haven't heard it in real life, I'm guessing you've heard a pilot on TV say "Roger." I bet you've even heard pilots say "Roger Wilco." Have you ever wondered who Roger Wilco is? And why pilots like to say his name?

According to The Straight Dope, in 1927 "Roger" was the word chosen to represent the letter "R," which is, of course, the first letter in the word "received." In other words, a pilot would receive instructions, and to indicate he had received them, he'd say "Roger." Why didn't he just say "received"? Well, during WWII, not everyone spoke English, but "R" -- or "Roger" -- became the internationally accepted way of acknowledging receipt of instructions. (Of course, in 1957 the word "Roger" was replaced with the word "Romeo" but by that time, "Roger" and "received" were synonymous.)

So what about "Wilco"? Its story is even simpler: it's an abbreviation of "will comply." So when pilots say "Roger Wilco," what they mean is "I received your instructions, and I will follow them."

Roger?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_procedure

Keep holding abeam..................
---------- ADS -----------
 
LousyFisherman
Rank 7
Rank 7
Posts: 578
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 8:32 am
Location: CFX2
Contact:

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by LousyFisherman »

Frozen, you are quite right
I see where you are going with this argument, but the difference here is that the language itself has evolved smoothly and gradually from Chaucer's or Shakespeare's eras to the present day
and ...
What "text speak" is doing is effectively converting our alphabetic written language into a semi-logography, where single glyphs are used to represent whole words or syllables or even entire sentence fragments.
Change "converting" to "smoothly evolving" and I could not say it better myself.
LF
---------- ADS -----------
 
TG
Rank 10
Rank 10
Posts: 2102
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:32 am
Location: Around

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by TG »

Big Pistons Forever wrote:
TG wrote:
Big Pistons Forever wrote:Yes you... the guys that post in text speak. I know I am an old fart and not with it but it I find it very, very, very, annoying to read a post with the texting contractions.
Come on! Don't tell us you never heard about text speak before :smt003
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/s ... n-2176.htm
I am not talking about using common abbreviation that are widely used and well understood. What I am talking about is
posters too lazy to type a proper sentence.

TG

I ges ur rite thers no hope so i wil givit up :roll:
You obviously need to relax, my post was tongue in check!
I cannot stand myself text speak or lol speak. It just sound lazy and uneducated most of the time.
Except like here where it is funny and steer the pot.

Those little smiley faces add to a post comprehension though.... :bear: :rolleyes: :mrgreen:
Just that it didn't in your case.

I guess language will evolve and at some point some of this text speak will be part of it.
like "it is" can be "it's" or "does not" "doesn't"

TG stand for my lack of "Nom de plume" imagination, that's all.
---------- ADS -----------
 
User avatar
Taiser
Rank 6
Rank 6
Posts: 403
Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:17 pm
Location: YQT
Contact:

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by Taiser »

You get use to it! I find it useful, especially when texting when you have a limited amount of characters you can type and I find it easier to text than make a call now most times, just more convenient for a quick communication with someone, especially the wife. After a while you don't even see the text speak. And now, thanks to my daughter, I'm even pretty fluent in "1337" speak now, which is downright scary!!! :shock:
---------- ADS -----------
 
frozen solid
Rank 7
Rank 7
Posts: 527
Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:29 pm

Re: You are hurting my eyes

Post by frozen solid »

I'm pretty sure I don't want to know what "1337" is.
LousyFisherman wrote: Change "converting" to "smoothly evolving" and I could not say it better myself.
LF
Yes, Lousy fisherman, you are probably right! The only thing is that over the long run, a "logography" is LESS desirable than a proper alphabet for communicating original thought!

We'll basically be splitting off into two different forms of written language, one for more-or-less banal jibber-jabber and another, the original alphabet, maybe retained for use only by intellectuals. Again, I suggest you watch "idiocracy" for a taste of what that will be like!
---------- ADS -----------
 
Post Reply

Return to “General Comments”