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I know, the last thread was locked. Just adds to the macabre. Has anybody heard anything concrete? Or otherwise?
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I heard there was a note.
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stef wrote:I heard there was a note.
Your source?
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I heard he showed up to landmark yyz in a cab and they cant find his car. Seemed normal to rampies, Experienced parachutist, Elt went on north of Sioux Lookout in which he flew and knew the area... Connect the dots. Really fishy.
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Aeroplane17 wrote:I heard he showed up to landmark yyz in a cab and they cant find his car. Seemed normal to rampies, Experienced parachutist, Elt went on north of Sioux Lookout in which he flew and knew the area... Connect the dots. Really fishy.
Sioux Lookout is nowhere NEAR YAM....did you mean Sault Ste. Marie!
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Nope he's correct, the ELT signal was first picked up somewhere in the vicinity between Sioux Lookout and Cat Lake.
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cdnpilot77 wrote:Nope he's correct, the ELT signal was first picked up somewhere in the vicinity between Sioux Lookout and Cat Lake.
So he crossed Lake Superior and turned north at that point? The plot thickens. Fishy. At best.
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cdnpilot77 wrote:Nope he's correct, the ELT signal was first picked up somewhere in the vicinity between Sioux Lookout and Cat Lake.
2 votes for correct, 1 for incorrect.
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My source is about as reliable as all the other conjecture I suppose. I heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy...

He had to have been in the plane as there is no way a Caravan autopilot would last that long. Mystery solved.
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JigglyBus wrote:
cdnpilot77 wrote:Nope he's correct, the ELT signal was first picked up somewhere in the vicinity between Sioux Lookout and Cat Lake.
2 votes for correct, 1 for incorrect.

I was going by info provided in the previous thread that seemed to be corroborated as I recall.
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stef wrote:My source is about as reliable as all the other conjecture I suppose. I heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy...

He had to have been in the plane as there is no way a Caravan autopilot would last that long. Mystery solved.

I don't understand your statement about a caravan A/P not lasting that long. Is that tongue in cheek?

I have had very good luck with C-208 serviceability including the A/P.

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Im quite sure there will be a very good investigation into this as his father has a lot of professional knowledge and connections from his pervious job. There may be a public investigation but there is some private investigation going on here too and Im sure they will get to the bottom of it.
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stef wrote:My source is about as reliable as all the other conjecture I suppose. I heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy...

He had to have been in the plane as there is no way a Caravan autopilot would last that long. Mystery solved.
What are you talking about? I've never had a time limit or a countdown till my auto pilot disconnects on a 208.
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Can we keep this one from wild speculation and dick wagging at each other? Some of us are actually interested in getting the facts straight.
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Rowdy wrote:Can we keep this one from wild speculation and dick wagging at each other? Some of us are actually interested in getting the facts straight.
Good point. Lets do that.

For Stef.....just so you know, the autopilot on a Caravan will "stay the course" till the airplane runs out of fuel. That's why there's a mystery here in the first place. The very possibility that the Caravan could well have ended up in the drink sans pilot.....the basic fact we have an expert (from a very reliable source, btw) skydiver, who (also from a very reliable source) wants to get away for a while...
Far from "mystery solved...."
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Does the 208 have auto fuel balancing? Can the auto-pilot(on a 208) hold wings level if the fuel is not balanced?
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2.5milefinal wrote:Does the 208 have auto fuel balancing? Can the auto-pilot(on a 208) hold wings level if the fuel is not balanced?
If the ball is in the centre to start with, I can't see it becoming a problem. Obviously, if indeed this was I piloted, this one must have. If it wasn't able to do so, the end result would be the same....just in a different place. This, and the fact the aircraft had already flown almost 300 miles, the imbalance probably wouldn't be a problem.
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How would you even get out of a fedex caravan in mid-air? The passenger door is deleted and there is no interior handle on the cargo door upper. All other doors are hinged at the front.
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Rudy wrote:How would you even get out of a fedex caravan in mid-air? The passenger door is deleted and there is no interior handle on the cargo door upper. All other doors are hinged at the front.
Easy. If you've planned it. Don't latch the upper cargo door. Tie the puppy closed, and off you go.

On second thought, are you sure? That door has to be available as an emergency exit. You wouldn't catch me flying any airplane I couldn't get out of, via all the doors.
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Nope not sure. Looks like the handle is deleted in the pics I checked though.

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Rudy wrote:Nope not sure. Looks like the handle is deleted in the pics I checked though.

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Can't really tell from the photo, but WHY would they remove the inside handle? Unless your transporting zombies, then who really cares if they bail? Film at 11:00
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Keep in mind, he flew over 230 nautical miles of water from which recovery would have been, very nearly as difficult as from Hudson Bay. Why? Because he had alternate plans. Otherwise, why the trip over to the YXL area before turning north? Because, that's where he'd parked his car? Perhaps on the road to YPL? Food for thought.
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Doc wrote:Keep in mind, he flew over 230 nautical miles of water from which recovery would have been, very nearly as difficult as from Hudson Bay. Why? Because he had alternate plans. Otherwise, why the trip over to the YXL area before turning north? Because, that's where he'd parked his car? Perhaps on the road to YPL? Food for thought.

Or a lot more inconspicuous on the road to slate falls....just saying. So many possibilities, will we ever know?
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cdnpilot77 wrote:
Doc wrote:Keep in mind, he flew over 230 nautical miles of water from which recovery would have been, very nearly as difficult as from Hudson Bay. Why? Because he had alternate plans. Otherwise, why the trip over to the YXL area before turning north? Because, that's where he'd parked his car? Perhaps on the road to YPL? Food for thought.

Or a lot more inconspicuous on the road to slate falls....just saying. So many possibilities, will we ever know?
Well, I just don't see the reason to go west before turning north. He could have headed north from YAM just as easily.
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Doc wrote: Can't really tell from the photo, but WHY would they remove the inside handle? Unless your transporting zombies, then who really cares if they bail? Film at 11:00
Maybe these are purpose built for fedex and the handle wasn't removed just never installed in the first place because it will never carry people in the back. Maybe so the door doesn't get opened accidentally by a package or freight. For those that haven't flown the caravan this is what the handle normally looks like:

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