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Re: A scantron error at TC? Is it at all possible...?
I found myself in a similar situation like you when I wrote my CPAER. I luckily passed it after all but Navigation, which has always been my strongest subject, got the lowest mark on my written. I was really surprised too. If it would have been Air Law or Met I probably would have been fine with it, but Navigation? Unfortunately the results don't really reveal what you did wrong. It only tells you that you have to study again how to calculate a magnetic heading... Well thank you. What I found a little bit difficult during the exam is, that they give you that massive laminated VNC which is absolutely unhandy, some lousy markers and a pencil. With that you have to plan a cross country and then they for example ask you what the magnetic track is. You always get the 4 answers out of which one is definitely wrong, the other one would be right if you would forget to account for variation and then you have two answers which are very close to each other. For example a track of 54° or 53° degrees. The first time I drew that line it was literally right between the two. The second time I got 54° and the third I got 53°. So after wasting a good 10 to 15 minutes on that question I was still left with a 50/50 chance on something that should be very easy and straight forward to answer. I noticed that with a few questions, where the answers were not as straight forward as they should be. Somehow I also had issues with the NDB questions. And I wrote my CPAER after I had passed my INRAT and MIFR flight test...
Are there actual errors in the written exams? Possible but I don't think so. I think it's more a problem of vague answers and weirdly phrased questions.
After all, don't let this experience bring you down. There's multiple discussions on here about how there's almost no relation between getting good marks on the TC exams and the actual pilot skills.
Are there actual errors in the written exams? Possible but I don't think so. I think it's more a problem of vague answers and weirdly phrased questions.
After all, don't let this experience bring you down. There's multiple discussions on here about how there's almost no relation between getting good marks on the TC exams and the actual pilot skills.
Re: A scantron error at TC? Is it at all possible...?
You aren't seriously suggesting that they want you to calculate the track to the nearest degree, are you?MIQ wrote:answers which are very close to each other. For example a track of 54° or 53° degrees. The first time I drew that line it was literally right between the two. The second time I got 54° and the third I got 53°.
Re: A scantron error at TC? Is it at all possible...?
First of all, they used yo do a check if there was a failure ti insure the score is correct. You can probably ask for it if they do not today.
Secondly, while the written exams may be thought be some to be of little if any relevance, failures on flight tests and written exams are one of the top ten indicators of a future accident (FAA).
If the mark is correct, forget the rationalizations, recognize that you have to study hard and properly, and get it done again.
Secondly, while the written exams may be thought be some to be of little if any relevance, failures on flight tests and written exams are one of the top ten indicators of a future accident (FAA).
If the mark is correct, forget the rationalizations, recognize that you have to study hard and properly, and get it done again.
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Re: A scantron error at TC? Is it at all possible...?
Not sure how many FAA written exams you
have done, but they are simply an exercise
in memorization. Three answers, not four,
and no language trickery. MUCH easier to
pass.
Don't confuse TC and FAA written exams.
They are completely different animals.
As far as a good predictor for future accidents,
I think past accidents is probably better.
NASA did a study a while back and concluded
that the only consistent correlation that they
could really find with respect to pilot accidents
was that the younger the pilot learned to fly,
the less likely he was to have an accident.
have done, but they are simply an exercise
in memorization. Three answers, not four,
and no language trickery. MUCH easier to
pass.
Don't confuse TC and FAA written exams.
They are completely different animals.
As far as a good predictor for future accidents,
I think past accidents is probably better.
NASA did a study a while back and concluded
that the only consistent correlation that they
could really find with respect to pilot accidents
was that the younger the pilot learned to fly,
the less likely he was to have an accident.
Re: A scantron error at TC? Is it at all possible...?
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Re: A scantron error at TC? Is it at all possible...?
Also, thanks for the input guys! Much appreciated.
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Re: A scantron error at TC? Is it at all possible...?
That's a curious bit of information.trey kule wrote:
Secondly, while the written exams may be thought be some to be of little if any relevance, failures on flight tests and written exams are one of the top ten indicators of a future accident (FAA).
I can't find any documentation to back this up nor have I ever heard of this statistic. Do you happen to have a link in support?
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Re: A scantron error at TC? Is it at all possible...?
I think most people would agree that you
have to be a pretty cunning linguist to do
well at TC written tests. Whether or not
that particular skill transfers easily to the
cock pit, has always seemed a bit unclear
to me.
have to be a pretty cunning linguist to do
well at TC written tests. Whether or not
that particular skill transfers easily to the
cock pit, has always seemed a bit unclear
to me.
Re: A scantron error at TC? Is it at all possible...?
I have, in fact written several of the FAA exams, as well as some from other countries.
Absolutely, they are different. My personal experience is that the Canadian ones are generally pretty good comparatively.
But you are correct. Perhaps interpreting a US based is not applicable to Canada. I believe, for one thing, the US ratio of PPLs is far higher than in Canada, which could skew the results. Same with the age thing. Older pilot pilots are a maybe more accident prone than older pilots flying for a living.
Do you have the NASA link?
Absolutely, they are different. My personal experience is that the Canadian ones are generally pretty good comparatively.
But you are correct. Perhaps interpreting a US based is not applicable to Canada. I believe, for one thing, the US ratio of PPLs is far higher than in Canada, which could skew the results. Same with the age thing. Older pilot pilots are a maybe more accident prone than older pilots flying for a living.
Do you have the NASA link?
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Re: A scantron error at TC? Is it at all possible...?
My bad - it was the NTSB study, not NASA.
the NTSB determined that there was a significant difference between accident and non-accident pilots with respect to age.
What is interesting is the finding that pilots who started their flying careers later in life were more likely to fall into the accident group than those who earned their certificates or licenses at an earlier age. The reasons for this finding are speculative but not necessarily hard to believe.
Pilots who learn to fly earlier in life generally benefit from better motor-skill response and quicker mental or cognitive responses. One can imagine that as a situation crops up, the younger pilot is able to respond to the situation more quickly than an older pilot with the same number of years of experience.
Re: A scantron error at TC? Is it at all possible...?
Well , let me see. I thought it was an FAA study. Spent 1/2 searching it. Then read it was a NASA. Another almost an hour as I got sidetracked looking at age stats and accidents in the US.
TSB...do you, by chance know what to search under? Seems to me TC also made mention of the study in one of their safety letters.
TSB...do you, by chance know what to search under? Seems to me TC also made mention of the study in one of their safety letters.
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Re: A scantron error at TC? Is it at all possible...?
The fact that the following recommendation was made, suggests some sort of statistic exists to back it up.
Develop a means to identify pilots whose overall performance history indicates
that they are at future risk of accident involvement, and develop a program to
reduce risk for those pilots. (A-05-027)
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Re: A scantron error at TC? Is it at all possible...?
So if you fail the written exam for the commercial licence twice and the instrument written twice before passing it that makes you a dangerous pilot?
Re: A scantron error at TC? Is it at all possible...?
I dont that any study concluded causation. Just correlation. I am still trying to access the definitive study though Changes found a related one....
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