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your flight time ?

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500+ PIC JET 2 CREW
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500+ PIC TURBOPROP 2 CREW
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1000+ F/O JET/TURBOPROP 2 CREW
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Jester123 wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:51 pm Got the job today. Thanks all for the help.

Offer came about 2.5 weeks after interview. Good luck to all.
Enjoy your 320 Captain upgrade next week.
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negative_g wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:59 pm
Jester123 wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:51 pm Got the job today. Thanks all for the help.

Offer came about 2.5 weeks after interview. Good luck to all.
Enjoy your 320 Captain upgrade next week.
Article 21.

Joking aside, the movement is eye opening.
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Jester123 wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:51 pm Got the job today. Thanks all for the help.

Offer came about 2.5 weeks after interview. Good luck to all.
Congraz, when is you PIT course if you don’t mind sharing.

Wondering if they are sending offers for Nov classes now.
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Jester123 wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:19 am Anyone know when the PIT classes are scheduled for October? Is AC running two a month for the foreseeable future?


Congrats Jester123. What is your experience? Degree? Any past flight training?
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PM's sent.
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Lads and ladies!

Need to ask for your input..

Got a call from Jazz for DEC starting November

Got promoted to training captain at me regional turboprop 705 shop this week

Should have training captain experience and 500 + hrs 705 pic time with a TT of around 2500hrs and 1400 two crew turboprop time by Jan.

What do I do?!

Defer Jazz to gamble an OTS hire? Or take it and run?
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Jetlifer wrote: Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:49 pm Lads and ladies!

Need to ask for your input..

Got a call from Jazz for DEC starting November

Got promoted to training captain at me regional turboprop 705 shop this week

Should have training captain experience and 500 + hrs 705 pic time with a TT of around 2500hrs and 1400 two crew turboprop time by Jan.

What do I do?!

Defer Jazz to gamble an OTS hire? Or take it and run?
OTS all the way. Put your application in now.
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Jetlifer wrote: Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:49 pm Lads and ladies!

Need to ask for your input..

Got a call from Jazz for DEC starting November

Got promoted to training captain at me regional turboprop 705 shop this week

Should have training captain experience and 500 + hrs 705 pic time with a TT of around 2500hrs and 1400 two crew turboprop time by Jan.

What do I do?!

Defer Jazz to gamble an OTS hire? Or take it and run?
With that experience, I would hold off on Jazz as you should definitely get an interview with AC. If they turn you down, which is unlikely since they’re hiring people with less time and experience than you, then you could take the DEC position at Jazz. Jazz will be hiring DECs for the next year at least. I think there’s still 120+ vacancies while they only hire 20-30 people a month, of which most are FOs.
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Jetlifer wrote: Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:49 pm Lads and ladies!

Need to ask for your input..

Got a call from Jazz for DEC starting November

Got promoted to training captain at me regional turboprop 705 shop this week

Should have training captain experience and 500 + hrs 705 pic time with a TT of around 2500hrs and 1400 two crew turboprop time by Jan.

What do I do?!

Defer Jazz to gamble an OTS hire? Or take it and run?
Chill and wait OTS if your goal is AC; Jazz and AC's relationship is unpredicatable. The opportunities with the 20-30 year olds nowadays is insane. 2500 hours 10-15 years ago, you'd be lucky to be Captain on a Navajo let alone a 705 turboprop.
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Jetlifer wrote: Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:49 pm Lads and ladies!

Need to ask for your input..

Got a call from Jazz for DEC starting November

Got promoted to training captain at me regional turboprop 705 shop this week

Should have training captain experience and 500 + hrs 705 pic time with a TT of around 2500hrs and 1400 two crew turboprop time by Jan.

What do I do?!

Defer Jazz to gamble an OTS hire? Or take it and run?
The DEC is not a guarantee. Very few candidates have made it through.
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Jetlifer wrote: Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:49 pm Lads and ladies!

Need to ask for your input..

Got a call from Jazz for DEC starting November

Got promoted to training captain at me regional turboprop 705 shop this week

Should have training captain experience and 500 + hrs 705 pic time with a TT of around 2500hrs and 1400 two crew turboprop time by Jan.

What do I do?!

Defer Jazz to gamble an OTS hire? Or take it and run?
Crazy how low the experience level goes when there's an "actual Pilot shortage"!..lol (pardon my shock as I'm one of thousands that have suffered through the "perpetual annual Pilot shortage scenario" for like...ever!) Kinda like the very early 70's when AC hired 250 hour F/O's to fly the DC9 :!:
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anyone else hear anything? I know people that interviewed end of Sept and got a call this week for a Nov 21 start. they said in the interview you'd hear back 6-8 weeks if successful. Are they taking Jazz applicants again?
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Yes tons of offers have been going out.
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Any truth to the rumour that people with both Jazz and AC applications are getting PFOd to push them through Jazz?
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I can't see how that would be legal. Jazz giving private application data to AC? Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. We have very strict privacy laws in Canada which I doubt Jazz would be willing to break. And there's no way AC would know if you've applied at Jazz, they are seperate companies. More likely than not just some imaginative person who's mad only Jazz is calling them not AC and wants someone to blame.
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negroni wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:26 pm I can't see how that would be legal. Jazz giving private application data to AC? Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. We have very strict privacy laws in Canada which I doubt Jazz would be willing to break. And there's no way AC would know if you've applied at Jazz, they are seperate companies. More likely than not just some imaginative person who's mad only Jazz is calling them not AC and wants someone to blame.
Years ago they used to snoop through your attendance record at Jazz too. That is a fact. Not sure if that is done now or not. I believe someone found out their PFO was due to that and sued AC.
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flyfasttakechances wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:41 am anyone else hear anything? I know people that interviewed end of Sept and got a call this week for a Nov 21 start. they said in the interview you'd hear back 6-8 weeks if successful. Are they taking Jazz applicants again?
Been waiting since mid September
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Inverted2 wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:48 pm
negroni wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:26 pm I can't see how that would be legal. Jazz giving private application data to AC? Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. We have very strict privacy laws in Canada which I doubt Jazz would be willing to break. And there's no way AC would know if you've applied at Jazz, they are seperate companies. More likely than not just some imaginative person who's mad only Jazz is calling them not AC and wants someone to blame.
Years ago they used to snoop through your attendance record at Jazz too. That is a fact. Not sure if that is done now or not. I believe someone found out their PFO was due to that and sued AC.
What's your fact? Because all I've ever heard was rumors about this. This would be a major privacy violation, I can't see it.
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negroni wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:52 am
Inverted2 wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:48 pm
negroni wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:26 pm I can't see how that would be legal. Jazz giving private application data to AC? Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. We have very strict privacy laws in Canada which I doubt Jazz would be willing to break. And there's no way AC would know if you've applied at Jazz, they are seperate companies. More likely than not just some imaginative person who's mad only Jazz is calling them not AC and wants someone to blame.
Years ago they used to snoop through your attendance record at Jazz too. That is a fact. Not sure if that is done now or not. I believe someone found out their PFO was due to that and sued AC.
What's your fact? Because all I've ever heard was rumors about this. This would be a major privacy violation, I can't see it.
The guy it happened to told me. It was well over 15 years ago now. I’m sure some things have changed since then.
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Perhaps back when AC owned Jazz fully. I'm pretty confident in guessing that since AC sold them off none of those shenanigans happen anymore.
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Inverted2 wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:48 pm Years ago they used to snoop through your attendance record at Jazz too. That is a fact. Not sure if that is done now or not. I believe someone found out their PFO was due to that and sued AC.
That’s a very common reference question for any job. I can’t speak for anyone else but I myself would answer honestly.
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I know. Don’t have any dog in this fight personally. Just what I have heard.

I also heard they could check your training records from Jazz. Doubt that is true because they hired some who failed many PPC over the years.
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For the first PML, I remember correctly, the only info that was shared between Jazz and AC was your training and attendance records.
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Under the old LOU18 they had access to your training and attendance records. That LOU has been gone for about 15 years now.
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How long are people waiting from application to call for interview?
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