I have heard through the grapevine that this may be changing shortly. Stay tuned.BE02 Driver wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:20 pmAtlas is E3 only like negative g said, but I know for a fact that Eastern has done EB visas in the past. If they still are I'm not sure......Just another canuck wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:27 amThis is precisely what I would like to know. I believe Atlas was doing EB-2's which also take 18+ months. H1B is gamble too. If something goes sideways, you go home.negative_g wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 8:13 pm Still yet to see what sponsorship they're offering. H1Bs are currently for 2024 applications. And it's still a lottery. If there EB3 it can be a lot faster.
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Can’t wait for us all to go South, and leave selfish Canadian operators and unions behind.BE02 Driver wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:21 pm C'mon over guys! I can confirm, that for once, the grass actually is as green as it appears from over there!!!!
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Agreed. I’ve been in the U.S. for 7 years now. I’ll never work in Canada again.BE02 Driver wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:21 pm C'mon over guys! I can confirm, that for once, the grass actually is as green as it appears from over there!!!!
I’m looking forward to seeing Canadian airlines scramble when there’s a mass exodus to the South. I spent too many years of my life working for peanuts in Canada.
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That’s the general consensus from pilots and ames alike. I made the switch many years ago now and I’ve only done a hand full of contracts in Canada since. Canadian aviation is in terrible shape.Stinky wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:02 amAgreed. I’ve been in the U.S. for 7 years now. I’ll never work in Canada again.BE02 Driver wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:21 pm C'mon over guys! I can confirm, that for once, the grass actually is as green as it appears from over there!!!!
I’m looking forward to seeing Canadian airlines scramble when there’s a mass exodus to the South. I spent too many years of my life working for peanuts in Canada.
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A little bit of hiring going on at JetBlue.
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We can't jump into conclusions real quick. The down vote for the AC MOA is just the start for better financial gains next year. We can all stay here and crave for better as long we consider each other as one
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As JHR says 'last one out the door, turn off the light'.canadian_aviator_4 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:43 amCan’t wait for us all to go South, and leave selfish Canadian operators and unions behind.BE02 Driver wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:21 pm C'mon over guys! I can confirm, that for once, the grass actually is as green as it appears from over there!!!!
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Correct me if I’m wrong, however EB-3 visas are sponsored by an employer? So you would have to find an airline going along with this visa process? Thanks!BE02 Driver wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:18 pmEB-3 visas are quick as long as you are Canadian born. Mine was less than 4 months. Citizenship doesn't matter, place of birth does for priority date. Canadian born applicants are current, so processed immediately.Just another canuck wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:27 amThis is precisely what I would like to know. I believe Atlas was doing EB-2's which also take 18+ months. H1B is gamble too. If something goes sideways, you go home.negative_g wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 8:13 pm Still yet to see what sponsorship they're offering. H1Bs are currently for 2024 applications. And it's still a lottery. If there EB3 it can be a lot faster.
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Has anyone done the interview and want to discuss/exchange info?
I recently had an interview and was wondering if anyone has figured out how they intend to proceed with visa sponsorship?
The ad has been updated to specify its a TN visa. From my understanding a TN visa is only eligible for professions that are on the NAFTA list (pilot is not one of them). They couldn't tell me much about that side of things, only that I would be in touch with their attorneys if successful.
Feel free to send a PM.
I recently had an interview and was wondering if anyone has figured out how they intend to proceed with visa sponsorship?
The ad has been updated to specify its a TN visa. From my understanding a TN visa is only eligible for professions that are on the NAFTA list (pilot is not one of them). They couldn't tell me much about that side of things, only that I would be in touch with their attorneys if successful.
Feel free to send a PM.
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I doubt it's the TN visa. If that's the case we are about to see a bunch of US airlines hiring Canadians. If I remember correctly, back when I was a software developer you didn't even need sponsorship to get a visa with the TN. All you needed was a letter of offer to present to the immigration officer at the airport along with your education credentials.Heisenberg666 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:14 am Has anyone done the interview and want to discuss/exchange info?
I recently had an interview and was wondering if anyone has figured out how they intend to proceed with visa sponsorship?
The ad has been updated to specify its a TN visa. From my understanding a TN visa is only eligible for professions that are on the NAFTA list (pilot is not one of them). They couldn't tell me much about that side of things, only that I would be in touch with their attorneys if successful.
Feel free to send a PM.
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I doubt it's the TN visa. If that's the case we are about to see a bunch of US airlines hiring Canadians. If I remember correctly, back when I was a software developer you didn't even need sponsorship to get a visa with the TN. All you needed was a letter of offer to present to the immigration officer at the airport along with your education credentials.Heisenberg666 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:14 am Has anyone done the interview and want to discuss/exchange info?
I recently had an interview and was wondering if anyone has figured out how they intend to proceed with visa sponsorship?
The ad has been updated to specify its a TN visa. From my understanding a TN visa is only eligible for professions that are on the NAFTA list (pilot is not one of them). They couldn't tell me much about that side of things, only that I would be in touch with their attorneys if successful.
Feel free to send a PM.
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I doubt it's the TN visa. If that's the case we are about to see a bunch of US airlines hiring Canadians. If I remember correctly, back when I was a software developer you didn't even need sponsorship to get a visa with the TN. All you needed was a letter of offer to present to the immigration officer at the airport along with your education credentials.Heisenberg666 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:14 am Has anyone done the interview and want to discuss/exchange info?
I recently had an interview and was wondering if anyone has figured out how they intend to proceed with visa sponsorship?
The ad has been updated to specify its a TN visa. From my understanding a TN visa is only eligible for professions that are on the NAFTA list (pilot is not one of them). They couldn't tell me much about that side of things, only that I would be in touch with their attorneys if successful.
Feel free to send a PM.
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I agree it shouldn’t be a TN visa. Have a look at their ad though. TN visa is stated on the bottom. I guess I’ll find out soon when I hear yay or nay.
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Ash Ketchum wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:45 amI doubt it's the TN visa. If that's the case we are about to see a bunch of US airlines hiring Canadians. If I remember correctly, back when I was a software developer you didn't even need sponsorship to get a visa with the TN. All you needed was a letter of offer to present to the immigration officer at the airport along with your education credentials.Heisenberg666 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:14 am Has anyone done the interview and want to discuss/exchange info?
I recently had an interview and was wondering if anyone has figured out how they intend to proceed with visa sponsorship?
The ad has been updated to specify its a TN visa. From my understanding a TN visa is only eligible for professions that are on the NAFTA list (pilot is not one of them). They couldn't tell me much about that side of things, only that I would be in touch with their attorneys if successful.
Feel free to send a PM.
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In the ad it says TN or H1-B. I would think H1-B may make sense as the likes of Air Wisconsin and Atlas have used that in the past. Apparently there is a long wait for it though.Heisenberg666 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:01 pm I agree it shouldn’t be a TN visa. Have a look at their ad though. TN visa is stated on the bottom. I guess I’ll find out soon when I hear yay or nay.
https://pilotsdb.brookfieldav.com/job/0 ... 50-USD-P-M
Ash Ketchum wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:45 amI doubt it's the TN visa. If that's the case we are about to see a bunch of US airlines hiring Canadians. If I remember correctly, back when I was a software developer you didn't even need sponsorship to get a visa with the TN. All you needed was a letter of offer to present to the immigration officer at the airport along with your education credentials.Heisenberg666 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:14 am Has anyone done the interview and want to discuss/exchange info?
I recently had an interview and was wondering if anyone has figured out how they intend to proceed with visa sponsorship?
The ad has been updated to specify its a TN visa. From my understanding a TN visa is only eligible for professions that are on the NAFTA list (pilot is not one of them). They couldn't tell me much about that side of things, only that I would be in touch with their attorneys if successful.
Feel free to send a PM.
I applied to Ravn Alaska through Rishworth and they straight up told me the visa process is a self sponsored EB-2 NIW for USD $12000 out of pocket with no guarantee of success - no thanks.
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I just stumbled across this forum and topic today and this is my first post as I see a lot of discussion regarding Frontier.
I interviewed last month and have a CJO pending approval of the TN-1 visa in which their lawyer is working on. I am hopeful but also a bit skeptical on if it will be approved at the border when crossing. I am hoping to be on the Nov 28th course if not that then the Dec 27th course.
If anyone else has been hired by Frontier and on one of these courses please PM me.
I will not discuss anything further on this forum until I am successful at getting my visa from Frontier as I will believe it when I see it.
But I can confirm they are definitely willing and interested in hiring Canadian Pilots!!
I interviewed last month and have a CJO pending approval of the TN-1 visa in which their lawyer is working on. I am hopeful but also a bit skeptical on if it will be approved at the border when crossing. I am hoping to be on the Nov 28th course if not that then the Dec 27th course.
If anyone else has been hired by Frontier and on one of these courses please PM me.
I will not discuss anything further on this forum until I am successful at getting my visa from Frontier as I will believe it when I see it.
But I can confirm they are definitely willing and interested in hiring Canadian Pilots!!
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Just to add to my post above:
Frontier is supposedly now offering a $35,000 sign on bonus if you stay for 3 years.
It is being offered starting on the Nov 28th course.
Frontier is supposedly now offering a $35,000 sign on bonus if you stay for 3 years.
It is being offered starting on the Nov 28th course.
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If the US government is putting pilot on the TN visa occupations list that is a huge win for Canadian pilots. Somehow I am skeptical though there is no way our government would allow that.
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Sending you a PMExpress2USA wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:08 pm I just stumbled across this forum and topic today and this is my first post as I see a lot of discussion regarding Frontier.
I interviewed last month and have a CJO pending approval of the TN-1 visa in which their lawyer is working on. I am hopeful but also a bit skeptical on if it will be approved at the border when crossing. I am hoping to be on the Nov 28th course if not that then the Dec 27th course.
If anyone else has been hired by Frontier and on one of these courses please PM me.
I will not discuss anything further on this forum until I am successful at getting my visa from Frontier as I will believe it when I see it.
But I can confirm they are definitely willing and interested in hiring Canadian Pilots!!
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Looking at the list of occupations that qualify for TN visa, medical professionals are listed. Am sure Canada has a bigger medical crises than pilot shortage. Keep trying, it will come.Ash Ketchum wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:03 am If the US government is putting pilot on the TN visa occupations list that is a huge win for Canadian pilots. Somehow I am skeptical though there is no way our government would allow that.
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This is the latest email I received from my lawyer today regarding the NIW...
I am glad to report that we are now receiving a steady stream of acceptation from USCIS. Most acceptations are now issued directly after submission and without RFE (Request for Further evidence). However, we also receive many RFEs, and sadly also some denials. While the denials represent a very small number, it is still frustrating on so many aspects. Notably the fact that some of the cases subject to denial have the same profile of cases that got accepted. This what we call the “human” factor and there is nothing we can do against it beside refiling.
In the same spirit, I would like to take this opportunity to provide an insight as to what happens when we receive a denial. First, our legal team reviews the USCIS officer’s grounds for refusal and if we find inconsistences, for instance, as mentioned above, when the denied pilot’s profile is comparable to those that have been approved, and if we believe there will be a strong chance of approval we may decide to re-file a new I-140 petition.
The reason we choose to re-file and not appeal a decision is a matter of timing and success rate. When filing an appeal, it is likely to take 12 to 18 months to receive a decision. However, with refiling it takes on average about 6-8 months.
Secondly, and more importantly, the determination for the National Interest Waiver is entirely at the discretion of USCIS. Hence, a vast majority of appeals result in siding with the initial officer’s decision to deny. On the flip side, you would be surprised to know that with refiling there is a real chance that USCIS could change its mind.
On another matter, as of today, USCIS does not accept premium processing requests for I-140 petitions filed after 1 February 2022. Since July 2022, USCIS has been phasing in premium processing for I-140 petitions and based on their previous announcement this expansion will likely continue. We are monitoring the situation closely and will duly notify you as soon as premium processing is available to our Pilots. For your information, once available, I-140 petitions can be processed within 45 calendar days for a fee of USD 2,500 which is in addition to all other fees.
Now, the question is would it be worth, once available, to spend USD 2,500 for such expedited services? We had a case accepted within 1 month, while another has taken 10 months – both without premium processing. One thing to bear in mind is that the time to respond is not an indication of the view USCIS has of the petition. Again, this goes back to the “human” factor we need to deal with.
I am glad to report that we are now receiving a steady stream of acceptation from USCIS. Most acceptations are now issued directly after submission and without RFE (Request for Further evidence). However, we also receive many RFEs, and sadly also some denials. While the denials represent a very small number, it is still frustrating on so many aspects. Notably the fact that some of the cases subject to denial have the same profile of cases that got accepted. This what we call the “human” factor and there is nothing we can do against it beside refiling.
In the same spirit, I would like to take this opportunity to provide an insight as to what happens when we receive a denial. First, our legal team reviews the USCIS officer’s grounds for refusal and if we find inconsistences, for instance, as mentioned above, when the denied pilot’s profile is comparable to those that have been approved, and if we believe there will be a strong chance of approval we may decide to re-file a new I-140 petition.
The reason we choose to re-file and not appeal a decision is a matter of timing and success rate. When filing an appeal, it is likely to take 12 to 18 months to receive a decision. However, with refiling it takes on average about 6-8 months.
Secondly, and more importantly, the determination for the National Interest Waiver is entirely at the discretion of USCIS. Hence, a vast majority of appeals result in siding with the initial officer’s decision to deny. On the flip side, you would be surprised to know that with refiling there is a real chance that USCIS could change its mind.
On another matter, as of today, USCIS does not accept premium processing requests for I-140 petitions filed after 1 February 2022. Since July 2022, USCIS has been phasing in premium processing for I-140 petitions and based on their previous announcement this expansion will likely continue. We are monitoring the situation closely and will duly notify you as soon as premium processing is available to our Pilots. For your information, once available, I-140 petitions can be processed within 45 calendar days for a fee of USD 2,500 which is in addition to all other fees.
Now, the question is would it be worth, once available, to spend USD 2,500 for such expedited services? We had a case accepted within 1 month, while another has taken 10 months – both without premium processing. One thing to bear in mind is that the time to respond is not an indication of the view USCIS has of the petition. Again, this goes back to the “human” factor we need to deal with.
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12,000$ to make double, if not more.Ash Ketchum wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:48 pmIn the ad it says TN or H1-B. I would think H1-B may make sense as the likes of Air Wisconsin and Atlas have used that in the past. Apparently there is a long wait for it though.Heisenberg666 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:01 pm I agree it shouldn’t be a TN visa. Have a look at their ad though. TN visa is stated on the bottom. I guess I’ll find out soon when I hear yay or nay.
https://pilotsdb.brookfieldav.com/job/0 ... 50-USD-P-M
Ash Ketchum wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:45 am
I doubt it's the TN visa. If that's the case we are about to see a bunch of US airlines hiring Canadians. If I remember correctly, back when I was a software developer you didn't even need sponsorship to get a visa with the TN. All you needed was a letter of offer to present to the immigration officer at the airport along with your education credentials.
I applied to Ravn Alaska through Rishworth and they straight up told me the visa process is a self sponsored EB-2 NIW for USD $12000 out of pocket with no guarantee of success - no thanks.
Seems like a pretty decent investment to me. No idea what Ravn Alaska is, but for guys thinking of the airlines you’re barely talking in terms of months to make up that 12,000$. Then depending on your age, maybe millions more income over the course of your careers.