Did you miss every single link I sent regarding the other airlines? The point wasn't that Delta paid better then AC 10 years ago, the point was that US wages we're atrocious and look how far they've come since. It will eventually happen in Canada, when that will be, who knows... Canadians tend to lag behind the US quite a bit and are very slow to react, it's only recent that some have actually waken up and started realizing they've been trampled on this whole time, but it's a slow process, much like a lot of things in Canadathepoors wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:20 pmI work somewhere that pays what I'm worth (goes without saying that's not any airline in Canada). I don't have to live in my parents' basement or visit a food bank to feed my kids while being responsible for a 200,000 lbs aircraft with 200+ lives in the back. And I would like to see the people who do, not have to make those kinds of ridiculous trade-offs. That's why I'm mad.twa22 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:52 pmI'm curious where you work, because you shit in every thread you touch... i'm not here to defend the new Westjet CA, or what's happening with AC and where it will lead, but man, take a break... Westjet is at least moving in the right direction, and the hope is AC will beat WJ, which should move things further along... US regional FO's were making 20k a year around 10 years ago, and now look how far they've come... here's some old links so you can all amuse yourself, I couldn't stop laughing when I saw these pay scalesthepoors wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 4:12 pm
Fact is pilots (and unions) in the US realize their worth and don't take any shit. Canadian pilots are spineless losers with an inferiority complex who continue to allow management to step all over them. And continue to line up for what are nothing less than embarrassing wawcon.
Exhibit A: WJ pilot group voting 87% yes to just getting back what they've been robbed of for the past 4 years. Gains??...no where to be seen, but they're celebrating like what they've achieved is some victory.
Exhibit B: AC can't fill new hire classes fast enough.
It's sad and pathetic. Wouldn't surprise me if flat pay sticks around, because as a group Canadian pilots are weak willed morons who will take whatever garbage gets tossed their way with a smile and a thank you.
http://willflyforfood.com/airline-pilot ... lines.html
http://willflyforfood.com/airline-pilot ... onsin.html
http://willflyforfood.com/airline-pilot ... rways.html
Oh, that's regionals... ok, how about the majors, they were better, but not by much...
http://willflyforfood.com/airline-pilot ... lines.html
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only ones that were paying decent even back then was Delta
http://willflyforfood.com/airline-pilot ... Lines.html
All you've done is highlight that Delta paid better 10 years ago than AC does now...and once again the defeatist attitude of "look how bad it could be." Instead of looking at how quickly they've solved their wage problems in the US and how they continue to improve. Let's not even speak of regionals because if we correct for inflation, add conversion, and factor the present cost of living in Canada, I guarantee Jazz and Encore pilots are making less of a real wage than even those US regionals were back then.
WJ guy is drinking the management line koolaid of "our take home is so much better!" - in reality the union touted 30-40% wage increases and settled for less than half that. AC will do the bare minimum to beat it and we will continue to fall further behind pilots in US - doing the same job for double and triple the pay. ACPA royally fkd a generation of pilots and now that there is an opportunity to right those wrongs and then some, people like you continue with these lukewarm attitudes just bending over to be taken advantage of by the company once again.
So with that said, if you aren't even working in Canada (or an airline in Canada), and this doesn't affect you, why do you care so much? Let it go and enjoy your life... if I learnt anything, one person shitting and having the loudest mouth won't change anything, especially on an anonymous forum