Wear your goddamn lanyard!
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Wear your goddamn lanyard!
Do YOU want a World Class Contract? Or are you going to roll over for every company ask?!
We need to grow a collective pair and make it abundantly clear to the corp that we aren't going to take their shit anymore. Show support for our UNION by wearing your RED World Class Contract lanyard, and rub their face in it!!
If you're a clip on guy, check your damn ego and WEAR THE LANYARD. If you still haven't received a red one, get off your ass and go find one!!
At this point the only people wearing the original AC lanyards are COWARDS, DRAFT WHORES, and COMPANY SHILLS. They were invisible before, not so much now!
We need to grow a collective pair and make it abundantly clear to the corp that we aren't going to take their shit anymore. Show support for our UNION by wearing your RED World Class Contract lanyard, and rub their face in it!!
If you're a clip on guy, check your damn ego and WEAR THE LANYARD. If you still haven't received a red one, get off your ass and go find one!!
At this point the only people wearing the original AC lanyards are COWARDS, DRAFT WHORES, and COMPANY SHILLS. They were invisible before, not so much now!
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Re: Wear your goddamn lanyard!
100%! Everyone should be wearing them after that email. They’re terrified of the unity. Did you see some of our lanyards/bag tags at WestJet during negots? ‘World Class Contract’ is nothing but respectful.
What is the MEC’s response to this? Hopefully they’ve made a rebuttal and told everyone to keep wearing with pride.
What is the MEC’s response to this? Hopefully they’ve made a rebuttal and told everyone to keep wearing with pride.
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Hold the line. They are getting triggered by the unity.
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Maybe have the Union make up RED clipsIf you're a clip on guy, check your damn ego and WEAR THE LANYARD. If you still haven't received a red one, get off your ass and go find one!!


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Re: Wear your goddamn lanyard!
This is the second reference to Lanyards Ive seen here the past few days. What did I miss? What email? Something from the MEC or something from the company?Canadaflyer46 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:33 pm 100%! Everyone should be wearing them after that email. They’re terrified of the unity. Did you see some of our lanyards/bag tags at WestJet during negots? ‘World Class Contract’ is nothing but respectful.
What is the MEC’s response to this? Hopefully they’ve made a rebuttal and told everyone to keep wearing with pride.
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It’s in your memos.Army of one wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:00 pmThis is the second reference to Lanyards Ive seen here the past few days. What did I miss? What email? Something from the MEC or something from the company?Canadaflyer46 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:33 pm 100%! Everyone should be wearing them after that email. They’re terrified of the unity. Did you see some of our lanyards/bag tags at WestJet during negots? ‘World Class Contract’ is nothing but respectful.
What is the MEC’s response to this? Hopefully they’ve made a rebuttal and told everyone to keep wearing with pride.
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In regards to said memo; Request Denied (due to operational constraints /s)
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Re: Wear your goddamn lanyard!
This Memo is about controlling the message and testing resolve. These lanyards were released by YOUR union for YOUR use. You were given them to
wear.
You need to choose the message you send.
This is a crossroads moment. Many tests will follow. Make your choice. If that choice is to move forward.....then act as a unified entity.....and....
HOLD THE LINE.
wear.
You need to choose the message you send.
This is a crossroads moment. Many tests will follow. Make your choice. If that choice is to move forward.....then act as a unified entity.....and....
HOLD THE LINE.
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Spoken like a desperate union leader knowing he’s not getting what he’s hoping for…
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Out of curiosity, why are you on this site? It's an aviation forum primarily for pilots. What's the point of coming on here without sharing any common interests, purely to comment with the intent of pointlessly antagonizing the members, and wishing us actual misfortune?accountant wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:18 pm Spoken like a desperate union leader knowing he’s not getting what he’s hoping for…
Honest question.
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accountant wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:18 pm Spoken like a desperate union leader knowing he’s not getting what he’s hoping for…



Ahhh ya.. no.
You reek of desperation and insecurity
Suck my sheckle.
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Dan, you beat me to it.....great question. I've asked them before......crickets.accountant wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:18 pm Spoken like a desperate union leader knowing he’s not getting what he’s hoping for…
Beeker, are you and (Anderoid)Dr. Bunsen Hunnydew a little bored? I see your very prolific with your posts as you're actively posting on multiple threads. If it's without a goal or purpose, it seems a collosal waste of your time.
Can you answer DanWEC's question?
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He either has a personal interest, or he gets a kick out of being a troll.DanWEC wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:35 pmOut of curiosity, why are you on this site? It's an aviation forum primarily for pilots. What's the point of coming on here without sharing any common interests, purely to comment with the intent of pointlessly antagonizing the members, and wishing us actual misfortune?accountant wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:18 pm Spoken like a desperate union leader knowing he’s not getting what he’s hoping for…
Honest question.
I’m now leaning to the latter.
Whichever it is, he is not going away and he is enjoying this.
Don’t feed the troll might be the best response
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Capt_z alter ego.accountant wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:18 pm Spoken like a desperate union leader knowing he’s not getting what he’s hoping for…
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Aren't you the same person who pretended to sound like you knew what you were talking about in the WJ forums about our contract and ended up being proven wrong in almost every possible sense?accountant wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:18 pm Spoken like a desperate union leader knowing he’s not getting what he’s hoping for…
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I have nothing to do with the union. ZERO.
I am however an advocate for our rights and have an "elevated" sense of where we've been and how we've been treated over the last two decades.
I am however an advocate for our rights and have an "elevated" sense of where we've been and how we've been treated over the last two decades.
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I can see your anger towards the corp as being somewhat justified but anger towards your MEC that you elected is your own fault, not the corps or the public’s.
Not our fault you couldn’t elect a group to act in your interest. That’s on you and your peers.
Not our fault you couldn’t elect a group to act in your interest. That’s on you and your peers.
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Wow, truer words have never been spoken.accountant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:00 pm I can see your anger towards the corp as being somewhat justified but anger towards your MEC that you elected is your own fault, not the corps or the public’s.
Not our fault you couldn’t elect a group to act in your interest. That’s on you and your peers.
Add to that, if you were complacent, absent or otherwise supported those initiatives to further enshrine the arrogant and power hungry people which populated the MEC for decades(*), then you have no right to complain - about anything.
(*) Constitutional changes such as the "Oath of Office" or the Recall thresholds as just two examples, there are so many more.
One member one vote and at that, we sucked. For me it was embarrassing to be a member of ACPA.
Let's hope we have learned something.
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You and I are on the same page but I have to agree with accountant on this one.RippleRock wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:44 am I have nothing to do with the union. ZERO.
I am however an advocate for our rights and have an "elevated" sense of where we've been and how we've been treated over the last two decades.
This one, while not on you or me personally, is squarely on us, collectively.
Just once, I hope I can feel somewhat proud of my association and the members that make that up. Just once in my 30 something years here.
Just once.
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Therein lays my cruxCanadaflyer46 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:33 pm 100%! Everyone should be wearing them after that email. They’re terrified of the unity. Did you see some of our lanyards/bag tags at WestJet during negots? ‘World Class Contract’ is nothing but respectful.
What is the MEC’s response to this? Hopefully they’ve made a rebuttal and told everyone to keep wearing with pride.
Crickets, nothin.
I recall the first two (maybe three) surveys beginning with questions regarding whether I "trust" the MEC, along with the direction of the MEC.
Seemed (very) premature to me. I indicated exactly that in my responses, zeros. I followed that up directly with the MEC.
Why should I trust this MEC? What have they done differently? Other than a few free PUB nights? Couple memos?
Yes I helped elect you, yes I fully supported our transition to ALPA and yes, thank god we were able to flush our disgusting ACPA constitution down the shitter.
To my MEC;
It's time to stop acting pretty much the same as our old ACPA MEC (in many regards). You have an engaged and angry membership. Use that rare energy. Please be fearless. Do something different than ACPA, be different, be better.
Be leaders, be something we can all proudly follow.
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Isn't it basic statistics to ask these questions to get a baseline to track trends?Army of one wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 1:02 pmTherein lays my cruxCanadaflyer46 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:33 pm 100%! Everyone should be wearing them after that email. They’re terrified of the unity. Did you see some of our lanyards/bag tags at WestJet during negots? ‘World Class Contract’ is nothing but respectful.
What is the MEC’s response to this? Hopefully they’ve made a rebuttal and told everyone to keep wearing with pride.
Crickets, nothin.
I recall the first two (maybe three) surveys beginning with questions regarding whether I "trust" the MEC, along with the direction of the MEC.
Seemed (very) premature to me. I indicated exactly that in my responses, zeros. I followed that up directly with the MEC.
Why should I trust this MEC? What have they done differently? Other than a few free PUB nights? Couple memos?
Yes I helped elect you, yes I fully supported our transition to ALPA and yes, thank god we were able to flush our disgusting ACPA constitution down the shitter.
To my MEC;
It's time to stop acting pretty much the same as our old ACPA MEC (in many regards). You have an engaged and angry membership. Use that rare energy. Please be fearless. Do something different than ACPA, be different, be better.
Be leaders, be something we can all proudly follow.
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If anything you made a smart move dumping them. I will agree on thatArmy of one wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:47 pmYou and I are on the same page but I have to agree with accountant on this one.RippleRock wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:44 am I have nothing to do with the union. ZERO.
I am however an advocate for our rights and have an "elevated" sense of where we've been and how we've been treated over the last two decades.
This one, while not on you or me personally, is squarely on us, collectively.
Just once, I hope I can feel somewhat proud of my association and the members that make that up. Just once in my 30 something years here.
Just once.
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Maybe. Time will tell. Im standing by, motivated, angry (controlled anger), and waiting.aeronauticaldisaster wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 1:11 pm Isn't it basic statistics to ask these questions to get a baseline to track trends?
Ive seen the train wreck movie too many times, I know it all too well. Just saying it looks familiar.
The time for basic statistics and baselines are long over for me.
I want a real and substantive redirect from my MEC. Otherwise, meh, ACPA with the ALPA logo.