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HELP: How can I satisfy the recency requirements abroad?

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Finally received my new ADB in the mail yesterday however I no longer meet the 6-month recency requirement. While I understand that it is possible to meet the requirement in a foreign-registered aircraft I would first have to be legally allowed to fly in the country. I reside in UK and from what I've read in the CAA regulations is that in order to validate/convert any licence it must be current at the time of validation/conversion.

So does this mean that the only way I can meet the 6-month recency requirement is by returning to Canada? Is there any other alternative around this?
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Re: HELP: How can I satisfy the recency requirements abroad?

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Why are you concerned about the 6 month recency requirement? If you want to carry passengers, just go do some circuits before they arrive once you're back in Canada. There's no need to stay recent 'all the time' if you have no use for the license. The UK shouldn't care about Canadian recency to carry passengers. They are concerned about 'expired' instrument ratings or licenses (in some countries).

If you do want to fly, go rent a plane with an instructor in the UK. There's nothing that says you need to do the landings on a Canadian aircraft. Just make sure you put it all in your logbook. Might be a good idea to write down your UK instructor's license number as well, and have him sign the line, just in case.
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Re: HELP: How can I satisfy the recency requirements abroad?

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digits_ wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 5:35 am Why are you concerned about the 6 month recency requirement? If you want to carry passengers, just go do some circuits before they arrive once you're back in Canada. There's no need to stay recent 'all the time' if you have no use for the license. The UK shouldn't care about Canadian recency to carry passengers. They are concerned about 'expired' instrument ratings or licenses (in some countries).

If you do want to fly, go rent a plane with an instructor in the UK. There's nothing that says you need to do the landings on a Canadian aircraft. Just make sure you put it all in your logbook. Might be a good idea to write down your UK instructor's license number as well, and have him sign the line, just in case.
My goal here is to be able to convert my licence/ratings (TC CPL/IR + ME) to ICAO equivalent for a gig in Africa. One of the requirements when converting is that the licence/ratings should be current at the time of conversion. I've made enquiries with various Instructors here in UK and I will go ahead and conduct an FAA IPC (I possess an FAA PPL+IR) which should make my TC I.R current for 24 months. I'm currently looking for a school where I can fly the multi with an instructor and log the 5 takeoffs+landings in order to make my ME current. I hope I'm right here...Thanks for your response.
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Re: HELP: How can I satisfy the recency requirements abroad?

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firstofficer wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 7:43 am
digits_ wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 5:35 am Why are you concerned about the 6 month recency requirement? If you want to carry passengers, just go do some circuits before they arrive once you're back in Canada. There's no need to stay recent 'all the time' if you have no use for the license. The UK shouldn't care about Canadian recency to carry passengers. They are concerned about 'expired' instrument ratings or licenses (in some countries).

If you do want to fly, go rent a plane with an instructor in the UK. There's nothing that says you need to do the landings on a Canadian aircraft. Just make sure you put it all in your logbook. Might be a good idea to write down your UK instructor's license number as well, and have him sign the line, just in case.
My goal here is to be able to convert my licence/ratings (TC CPL/IR + ME) to ICAO equivalent for a gig in Africa. One of the requirements when converting is that the licence/ratings should be current at the time of conversion. I've made enquiries with various Instructors here in UK and I will go ahead and conduct an FAA IPC (I possess an FAA PPL+IR) which should make my TC I.R current for 24 months. I'm currently looking for a school where I can fly the multi with an instructor and log the 5 takeoffs+landings in order to make my ME current. I hope I'm right here...Thanks for your response.
Look into the details regarding currency vs recency. I can understand you need to be current, but the recency requirement is *only* for carrying passengers. I'm quite certain you don't need it.

A Canadian license is already an ICAO license. Why would you need to go through the UK to fly in an African country? Are there specific requirements for the country you're targetting that they require a UK license?
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Re: HELP: How can I satisfy the recency requirements abroad?

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digits_ wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 8:02 am
firstofficer wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 7:43 am
digits_ wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 5:35 am Why are you concerned about the 6 month recency requirement? If you want to carry passengers, just go do some circuits before they arrive once you're back in Canada. There's no need to stay recent 'all the time' if you have no use for the license. The UK shouldn't care about Canadian recency to carry passengers. They are concerned about 'expired' instrument ratings or licenses (in some countries).

If you do want to fly, go rent a plane with an instructor in the UK. There's nothing that says you need to do the landings on a Canadian aircraft. Just make sure you put it all in your logbook. Might be a good idea to write down your UK instructor's license number as well, and have him sign the line, just in case.
My goal here is to be able to convert my licence/ratings (TC CPL/IR + ME) to ICAO equivalent for a gig in Africa. One of the requirements when converting is that the licence/ratings should be current at the time of conversion. I've made enquiries with various Instructors here in UK and I will go ahead and conduct an FAA IPC (I possess an FAA PPL+IR) which should make my TC I.R current for 24 months. I'm currently looking for a school where I can fly the multi with an instructor and log the 5 takeoffs+landings in order to make my ME current. I hope I'm right here...Thanks for your response.
Look into the details regarding currency vs recency. I can understand you need to be current, but the recency requirement is *only* for carrying passengers. I'm quite certain you don't need it.

A Canadian license is already an ICAO license. Why would you need to go through the UK to fly in an African country? Are there specific requirements for the country you're targetting that they require a UK license?
I sure did confuse recency and currency. Thank you for pointing that out. In this case I'll just be proceeding with the FAA IPC which will in turn satisfy the TC IFR currency rules. UK is home for me therefore I ideally want to address the currency tasks here for efficiency. I have no intention of converting my licences here. when I mentioned ICAO equivalent what I actually meant to say was the Kenyan equivalent. Thanks again
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