Pacific Coastal

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How did your coworker get an offer with such low time? My coworker whose a long time king air training captain can’t seem to get an offer. Me being a newish king air captain I’m considering leaving industry due to hard work not being valued for hire at 705 operators.

Look, "Gretchen", the bit is getting a little old. Can you give it a rest for a bit, let those creative juices marinate, and come back when you have a new schtick? The sad-sack King Air captain has run its course. Thanks!

Be nice, offer some help to fellow aviators!

[Pratt X 3]

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How did your coworker get an offer with such low time? My coworker whose a long time king air training captain can’t seem to get an offer. Me being a newish king air captain I’m considering leaving industry due to hard work not being valued for hire at 705 operators.

Look, "Gretchen", the bit is getting a little old. Can you give it a rest for a bit, let those creative juices marinate, and come back when you have a new schtick? The sad-sack King Air captain has run its course. Thanks!

Be nice, offer some help to fellow aviators!

I am being nice and trying to help fellow aviators by pointing out how uncreative your latest attempt at trolling has become. Time to create a new character to entertain yourself in Mom's basement.

[Me262]

[... And i assume as an FO you're the FA and ground crew as well lugging around 23kgs bags and cleaning some vomit if you're really unlucky. (More than welcome to get corrected if my assumption is wrong)

I can correct you on that. Pasco pilots in YVR show up 20 minutes before engine start, they check the load sheet, fuel load, and weather, and they walk downstairs to a fully boarded aircraft. They never touch a bag, they don't fuel, they have full ramp staff and cart starts at all their destinations. If they have a break between flights, they sit in a room with couches and tables and watch tv or chill out.

The pay sucks, and the bond sucks, but the job is pretty slack.

Ok, is it only for flights arriving/departing YVR? Because I've seen flights that landed outside of YVR and the pilots were lugging luggages. And they were assisting wheel chair pax to the airplane. Or they were doing that because they just wanted to do it?

Do you also have any insight into this?

If you wanted could you have all your days in a row with the minimum 1 day rest as required and have the remaining 12-14 off days in a row? How does the schedule bidding work?

[co-joe]

[... And i assume as an FO you're the FA and ground crew as well lugging around 23kgs bags and cleaning some vomit if you're really unlucky. (More than welcome to get corrected if my assumption is wrong)

I can correct you on that. Pasco pilots in YVR show up 20 minutes before engine start, they check the load sheet, fuel load, and weather, and they walk downstairs to a fully boarded aircraft. They never touch a bag, they don't fuel, they have full ramp staff and cart starts at all their destinations. If they have a break between flights, they sit in a room with couches and tables and watch tv or chill out.

The pay sucks, and the bond sucks, but the job is pretty slack.

Ok, is it only for flights arriving/departing YVR? Because I've seen flights that landed outside of YVR and the pilots were lugging luggages. And they were assisting wheel chair pax to the airplane. Or they were doing that because they just wanted to do it?

Do you also have any insight into this?

If you wanted could you have all your days in a row with the minimum 1 day rest as required and have the remaining 12-14 off days in a row? How does the schedule bidding work?

Interesting, must be some smaller airports or maybe on charters where the pilots have to work. The places I've seen them up and down the west coast I've never seen the pilots need to lift a finger other than a cursory walkaround. On that end it's a pretty sweet gig, as long as you don't need money to survive that is. I don't have any info about scheduling at all unfortunately though, sorry.

[TeePeeCreeper]

Not sure what Me262 is going on about (he seems to know a lot about nothing).

The only pilots that had to help load and unload were the -2/Goose guys. Sadly, after a few accidents they rebranded and renamed their seaplane devision.

Of note, this rebranded company recently had another accident which resulted in a fatality. Our industry lost a great rotary AME during a crew change and I lost a friend.

I still have two friends that are flying Saabs for PC and both will probably end up being Pacific Coastal “lifers” as they really enjoy their QOL despite the pay.

I can attest that neither of these friends of mine are above throwing a bag or helping out if need be. With that said, there is no way in hell that these guys would accept was has been described by Me262.

TPC

[‘Bob’]

Charters you have to lift bags. I know because I’ve done it. It was a lot of years ago so things could have changed.

Maybe now they deadhead their ground crews to the charter destinations so the flight crew doesn’t have to touch a bag?

As far as lifestyle goes. Maybe it’s changed too? But it sure wasn’t lifestyle for me and I got out of there as soon as possible.

[Me262]

Not sure what Me262 is going on about (he seems to know a lot about nothing).

The only pilots that had to help load and unload were the -2/Goose guys. Sadly, after a few accidents they rebranded and renamed their seaplane devision.

Of note, this rebranded company recently had another accident which resulted in a fatality. Our industry lost a great rotary AME during a crew change and I lost a friend.

I still have two friends that are flying Saabs for PC and both will probably end up being Pacific Coastal “lifers” as they really enjoy their QOL despite the pay.

I can attest that neither of these friends of mine are above throwing a bag or helping out if need be. With that said, there is no way in hell that these guys would accept was has been described by Me262.

TPC

I'm talking about the B1900 crew not Saab in which they also have a FA. And I know "a lot" about what I saw myself. What I don't know, I've asked, such as their schedule bid process.

[mmm...bacon]

Bonds are just unethical I say. Value your pilots and they will definitely stay.

Under a ‘normal’ job market, probably. Over the last 2 years of unprecedented growth, there is literally *Nothing* that a company like Pasco could have done, or afforded to do, to keep young pilots around. Nobody is going to stay at a job that tops out at ?$120k/yr? when AC or WJ come calling with their lifetime earning potential. I used to work at a small-ish 703/4 (Kingairs) carrier that had a bond. One of my co-workers got an offer from a 705 (B757) about 2 months after he’d completed his training. The salary raise at his new gig covered his bond. You could argue all you want about being a man of your word, but at the end of the day, he’s going to be way further ahead in his career with the heavy type and paycheque than he will be banging around in a KingAir.

How did your coworker get an offer with such low time? My coworker whose a long time king air training captain can’t seem to get an offer. Me being a newish king air captain I’m considering leaving industry due to hard work not being valued for hire at 705 operators.

Nice attempt at a troll, jackass!