I don't claim to be an expert of WJ negotiations but in their first round they entered willingly into arbitration. The arbitrator awarded the pilots some gains but also allowed the company to continue operating Swoop with a separate seniority list under the condition that they couldn't operate out of YYZ or use the MAX aircraft (conditions the airline almost immediately ignored)? Please correct me if I'm wrong.RAIM wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:07 amStig,TheStig wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:44 am The Minister of Labour sending the Port Workers to binding arbitration shows that the Government would have intervened had there been a strike at AC. This validates the MEC's decision to let the negotiators work until the 11th hour, access the situation at that moment, and ultimately and put the TA to a vote.
I'm certain it wasn't the contract they had set out to achieve but at that point they had a difficult choice to make and the near certainty of Government intervention shows that they made the right call. If you think there was a realistic chance that an Arbitrator would have awarded the pilot group more than the 46% improvement in value over the previous collective agreement you're delusional.
Can you explain to me how WestJet with only 2 rounds of bargaining, the first one being arbitrated, has almost the same pay now after making MORE than us as a low cost carrier.
THEN, they have better reserve and productivity rules?
How is that even possible??
Is arbitration really much worse and maybe the results are because WJ didn't practice the art of capitulation 3 days prior?
Lesson learned, in their second round of negotiations WJ ALPA knew that they couldn't trust an Arbitrator to secure the gains they desired and came to a last minute deal (without any threat of government interference). They secured pay gains but more importantly, scope over swoop and sunwing flying. I recall posters on this site thrashed them for not securing a world class contract and for capitulating.
In 2026 a WJ 12th year 737 Captain will be earning $304.90/hour and AC 12th year 737 Captains will be earning 337.33 +37.33 Nav/OVS (in September). At that time year 1 WJ will be 88.96 vs 94.62 at AC. Hopefully they can leapfrog AC pay once again as they will be behind in terms of pay.
Can you please explain how WJ has better reserve and productivity rules?
In the latest CA AC pilots secured improvements to reserve; with increased days off in low block hour months, removal of T days, the award steps need to be followed top to bottom before a reserve pilot can be reassigned, this allows reserve pilots to benefit from override etc, 24 hour release after assignment, seniority based RAP assignments.
What in their contract increases productivity? ADG, DPG, a 16 day cap on NB flying? Or is it that you feel entitled to socialized bidding.