Winter 2025 Hiring

Discuss topics relating to Jazz Aviation LP.

Moderators: North Shore, sky's the limit, sepia, Sulako, lilfssister, I WAS Birddog

cavok9909
Rank 0
Rank 0
Posts: 14
Joined: Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:33 pm

Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by cavok9909 »

Is Jazz still conducting interviews for FO positions?

I submitted my application last fall but haven’t received any updates. I’m not sure if this is due to my qualifications or if they’re simply not hiring at the moment.

I understand they already have a large number of FOs, so I’m wondering if that could be the reason.
---------- ADS -----------
 
702pipeliner
Rank 2
Rank 2
Posts: 79
Joined: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:23 am

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by 702pipeliner »

cavok9909 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:51 pm Is Jazz still conducting interviews for FO positions?

I submitted my application last fall but haven’t received any updates. I’m not sure if this is due to my qualifications or if they’re simply not hiring at the moment.

I understand they already have a large number of FOs, so I’m wondering if that could be the reason.
Jazz is priority now is to find people who can upgrade to captain in the near future not people who cannot. So unless you have over an atpl and practical experience I'd say you fall into the pile for fos who are not subject to upgrade in near future, your experience will then also dictate where in that pile you fall.

But yes. To many fos, and a drastic shortage of captains. Doesn't help majority of jazz taken last few months by air canada have been captains
---------- ADS -----------
 
GIVCE!
Rank 2
Rank 2
Posts: 78
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:55 pm
Location: YYZ

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by GIVCE! »

We are being told that training will ramp up going forward. I believe one groundschool a month (20 people) for the foreseeable future. Starting on feb 17(don’t quote me, could be the 10th). It will be interesting the experience Lebel of candidates as we move forward. Good luck if you are applying! Jazz still has the best contract in Canada, imo, especially for the regional airline.
---------- ADS -----------
 
Me262
Rank 7
Rank 7
Posts: 521
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:35 pm

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by Me262 »

GIVCE! wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:39 pm We are being told that training will ramp up going forward. I believe one groundschool a month (20 people) for the foreseeable future. Starting on feb 17(don’t quote me, could be the 10th). It will be interesting the experience Lebel of candidates as we move forward. Good luck if you are applying! Jazz still has the best contract in Canada, imo, especially for the regional airline.
Other than the shit pay, Jazz is really solid when it comes to everything else, even better than the mothership.
---------- ADS -----------
 
hithere
Rank 7
Rank 7
Posts: 597
Joined: Mon May 08, 2006 8:05 am

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by hithere »

Jazz operates aircraft with 76-78 seats. Excluding the CPA carriers in the USA, which airline in Canada flying similar gauge aircraft makes Jazz pay look like shit?
---------- ADS -----------
 
Me262
Rank 7
Rank 7
Posts: 521
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:35 pm

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by Me262 »

hithere wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:03 pm Jazz operates aircraft with 76-78 seats. Excluding the CPA carriers in the USA, which airline in Canada flying similar gauge aircraft makes Jazz pay look like shit?
I said shit pay, I didn't say shit pay compared to x or y. Excluding the CPA carriers in the USA, all regionals and below pay shit. 61k in your books is enough for YVR or YYZ? And currently, Porter and Encore is paying more than Jazz, but this is just nitpicking and overall nobody can afford a decent standard of living no matter if Porter, Encore or Jazz.

Anything less than 80% of what a mainline is paying (YOS for YOS equivalent) is garbage and shouldn't exist for a regional. A Year 12 Jazz FO should be making 162.70. A captain 244.66
---------- ADS -----------
 
Dime
Rank 0
Rank 0
Posts: 11
Joined: Sun Jun 02, 2024 9:02 am

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by Dime »

Me262 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:11 pm
hithere wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:03 pm Jazz operates aircraft with 76-78 seats. Excluding the CPA carriers in the USA, which airline in Canada flying similar gauge aircraft makes Jazz pay look like shit?
I said shit pay, I didn't say shit pay compared to x or y. Excluding the CPA carriers in the USA, all regionals and below pay shit. 61k in your books is enough for YVR or YYZ? And currently, Porter and Encore is paying more than Jazz, but this is just nitpicking and overall nobody can afford a decent standard of living no matter if Porter, Encore or Jazz.

Anything less than 80% of what a mainline is paying (YOS for YOS equivalent) is garbage and shouldn't exist for a regional. A Year 12 Jazz FO should be making 162.70. A captain 244.66
Exactly and the industry has no one to blame but themselves for a shortage of qualified, upgradable candidates at the moment. They are feeling the repercussions of their short sightedness over the years
---------- ADS -----------
 
Man_in_the_sky
Rank 4
Rank 4
Posts: 262
Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:52 am

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by Man_in_the_sky »

Me262 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:52 pm
GIVCE! wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:39 pm We are being told that training will ramp up going forward. I believe one groundschool a month (20 people) for the foreseeable future. Starting on feb 17(don’t quote me, could be the 10th). It will be interesting the experience Lebel of candidates as we move forward. Good luck if you are applying! Jazz still has the best contract in Canada, imo, especially for the regional airline.
Other than the shit pay, Jazz is really solid when it comes to everything else, even better than the mothership.
It just sucks that you can’t pay rent with commuting policy and pay protection :p
---------- ADS -----------
 
Inverted2
Rank 11
Rank 11
Posts: 3882
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:46 am

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by Inverted2 »

They’re going to have to up the pay. Simply putting out equipment bid vacancies and positive thoughts won’t won’t attract experience. Many FOs are sitting at home on reserve not flying and adding hours to their 300 or 1100 or whatever so they are years before they can upgrade.
---------- ADS -----------
 
DEI = Didn’t Earn It
User avatar
Canoehead
Rank 8
Rank 8
Posts: 978
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 11:08 pm

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by Canoehead »

GIVCE! wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:39 pm We are being told that training will ramp up going forward. I believe one groundschool a month (20 people) for the foreseeable future. Starting on feb 17(don’t quote me, could be the 10th). It will be interesting the experience Lebel of candidates as we move forward. Good luck if you are applying! Jazz still has the best contract in Canada, imo, especially for the regional airline.
There are groundschools planned but not monthly (and yes, Feb 17th is correct). Max will be 20 per class, but possibly not that high right now. Someone else asked about bases and equipment; those are literally determined shortly before classes begin. Newhires with 500-1200 hours are becoming a thing of the past. Best advice is to get a job in a multi-crew environment, and better yet, in a multi-engine aircraft. Instructing is great experience; but do it in a place where you can advance to a multi-engine instructor as well and gain time that way. Single engine instructing alone will not be sufficient.

The days of walking into flying jobs at the 705 level are slowing from what we have seen. Pilots are going to have to start competing again for those jobs. Hopefully those details don't need to be spelled out.
---------- ADS -----------
 
truedude
Rank 8
Rank 8
Posts: 880
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:30 pm

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by truedude »

Canoehead wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:25 pm
GIVCE! wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:39 pm We are being told that training will ramp up going forward. I believe one groundschool a month (20 people) for the foreseeable future. Starting on feb 17(don’t quote me, could be the 10th). It will be interesting the experience Lebel of candidates as we move forward. Good luck if you are applying! Jazz still has the best contract in Canada, imo, especially for the regional airline.
There are groundschools planned but not monthly (and yes, Feb 17th is correct). Max will be 20 per class, but possibly not that high right now. Someone else asked about bases and equipment; those are literally determined shortly before classes begin. Newhires with 500-1200 hours are becoming a thing of the past. Best advice is to get a job in a multi-crew environment, and better yet, in a multi-engine aircraft. Instructing is great experience; but do it in a place where you can advance to a multi-engine instructor as well and gain time that way. Single engine instructing alone will not be sufficient.

The days of walking into flying jobs at the 705 level are slowing from what we have seen. Pilots are going to have to start competing again for those jobs. Hopefully those details don't need to be spelled out.
This is optimistic. Jazz won't find high quality candidates while many 704 operations pay better. Be curious how many of those in the pool will still be there when the gs date comes and goes.
---------- ADS -----------
 
hithere
Rank 7
Rank 7
Posts: 597
Joined: Mon May 08, 2006 8:05 am

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by hithere »

There are groundschools planned but not monthly (and yes, Feb 17th is correct). Max will be 20 per class, but possibly not that high right now. Someone else asked about bases and equipment; those are literally determined shortly before classes begin. Newhires with 500-1200 hours are becoming a thing of the past. Best advice is to get a job in a multi-crew environment, and better yet, in a multi-engine aircraft. Instructing is great experience; but do it in a place where you can advance to a multi-engine instructor as well and gain time that way. Single engine instructing alone will not be sufficient.

The days of walking into flying jobs at the 705 level are slowing from what we have seen. Pilots are going to have to start competing again for those jobs. Hopefully those details don't need to be spelled out.
[/quote]

Has there been a recent change to the status of the Feb groundschool and will there be groundschools in March and/or April?
---------- ADS -----------
 
CanadianGlobetrotter
Rank 0
Rank 0
Posts: 4
Joined: Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:15 am

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by CanadianGlobetrotter »

hithere wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:02 am There are groundschools planned but not monthly (and yes, Feb 17th is correct). Max will be 20 per class, but possibly not that high right now. Someone else asked about bases and equipment; those are literally determined shortly before classes begin. Newhires with 500-1200 hours are becoming a thing of the past. Best advice is to get a job in a multi-crew environment, and better yet, in a multi-engine aircraft. Instructing is great experience; but do it in a place where you can advance to a multi-engine instructor as well and gain time that way. Single engine instructing alone will not be sufficient.

The days of walking into flying jobs at the 705 level are slowing from what we have seen. Pilots are going to have to start competing again for those jobs. Hopefully those details don't need to be spelled out.
Has there been a recent change to the status of the Feb groundschool and will there be groundschools in March and/or April?
[/quote]


Yes, as far as I am aware there have been some changes to the training schedules of initial classes. Rumour has it that the February class is delayed, and possible fluctuations on the March/April/May classes. Not sure if that means they are cancelled, changed or just delayed. What this means for Jazz overall is up for debate, as it could be very positive depending on which rumour you believe!
---------- ADS -----------
 
Dime
Rank 0
Rank 0
Posts: 11
Joined: Sun Jun 02, 2024 9:02 am

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by Dime »

From what I’ve heard March and April G/S have been cancelled and there will be one in mid/late Feb
---------- ADS -----------
 
GIVCE!
Rank 2
Rank 2
Posts: 78
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:55 pm
Location: YYZ

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by GIVCE! »

Rumour mill is rampant…something coming down the pipe for End of February? ….enquiring minds NEED to know!
---------- ADS -----------
 
Inverted2
Rank 11
Rank 11
Posts: 3882
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:46 am

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by Inverted2 »

Rumour is free Christmas ornaments are back.
---------- ADS -----------
 
DEI = Didn’t Earn It
Me262
Rank 7
Rank 7
Posts: 521
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:35 pm

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by Me262 »

Dime wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:34 pm From what I’ve heard March and April G/S have been cancelled and there will be one in mid/late Feb
A few that were waiting for Jazz accepted and started with Flair in Jan/Feb. If that's a better choice (if they won't be jobless within the year), we shall see. But I think as long as they can get a 737 type rating, I'd call that a win.
---------- ADS -----------
 
Dime
Rank 0
Rank 0
Posts: 11
Joined: Sun Jun 02, 2024 9:02 am

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by Dime »

Honestly Jazz is a pretty solid company but if your goal is to get to AC, Flair is probably much faster.

Apparently things have changed from even 2 weeks ago in terms of hiring . I stand corrected or what I said earlier, Feb and March are a go ahead and everything else is tentative. But again, this may change again, it’s all speculation until it happens.

Apparently Jazz is being more selective with hiring. No idea how they can be at the moment tbh. Experience requires $$$
---------- ADS -----------
 
CaptDukeNukem
Rank (9)
Rank (9)
Posts: 1989
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2022 9:33 am

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by CaptDukeNukem »

Inverted2 wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:09 pm Rumour is free Christmas ornaments are back.
But you gotta walk into the crew room and say hi to management to get one. If you wait post Christmas, they will give you two
---------- ADS -----------
 
Me262
Rank 7
Rank 7
Posts: 521
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:35 pm

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by Me262 »

CaptDukeNukem wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:26 pm
Inverted2 wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:09 pm Rumour is free Christmas ornaments are back.
But you gotta walk into the crew room and say hi to management to get one. If you wait post Christmas, they will give you two
The cake is a lie
---------- ADS -----------
 
cavok9909
Rank 0
Rank 0
Posts: 14
Joined: Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:33 pm

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by cavok9909 »

Hi All,

Just wondering if there are any updates on when hiring might resume for the remainder of 2025?
---------- ADS -----------
 
User avatar
Canoehead
Rank 8
Rank 8
Posts: 978
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 11:08 pm

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by Canoehead »

Class of 6 started this week.

Next classes planned for September and November I think, perhaps one in October as well.
---------- ADS -----------
 
dustyroads
Rank 1
Rank 1
Posts: 24
Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:00 pm

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by dustyroads »

Canoehead wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:34 pm Class of 6 started this week.

Next classes planned for September and November I think, perhaps one in October as well.
Seems like a small class size during a crew shortage.
---------- ADS -----------
 
truedude
Rank 8
Rank 8
Posts: 880
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:30 pm

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by truedude »

dustyroads wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:40 pm
Canoehead wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:34 pm Class of 6 started this week.

Next classes planned for September and November I think, perhaps one in October as well.
Seems like a small class size during a crew shortage.
Well when you don't pay for experience, no one with experience applies. When King Air captain's can make up to a 150gs and be home every night, they arent leaving that to make half, to be gone half a month, and work 4x as hard. That math doesn't math on that. And this will get resolved when the people in charge finally understand the way to fix it is to pay.
---------- ADS -----------
 
Inverted2
Rank 11
Rank 11
Posts: 3882
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:46 am

Re: Winter 2025 Hiring

Post by Inverted2 »

No need for significant hiring. No DECs at Jazz, pool of upgradeable FO is small and long time captains are retiring so all they would end up with is excess FO positions.
---------- ADS -----------
 
DEI = Didn’t Earn It
Post Reply

Return to “Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express”