Hockey Teams Travelling

[FICU]

@FICU,

What type a/c were you flying the Avalanche around on? I have to admit your nickname has me curious as it matches the reg of a LR35 that used to be operated by that fine company CGAA (insert sarcasm here), may they burn in hell, I mean rest in peace.

Hi,

737-200.

I flew ICU before *that* outfit got their hands on it! I doubt anyone from CGAA management is resting very well these days!

[Dust Devil]

I dunno, I had a dozen clowns with hockey bags headed back from Tuk the other day on the Otter. They didn't look happy, or co-ordinated.

Anyone know if the Leafs had an exhibition game up here?

just curious....on behalf of the greatest Canadian hockey team and myself....we are insulted by your comments.

..........we expect an apology!

When I am wrong, I have big shoulders, I can admit it. So, sorry Leafs fans, I was mistaken. It wasn't a hockey team. It was the Argos.

So it wasn't a football team either?

[DA900]

Do you have much time for socializing with the players ?

Does each time charter its own Air Canada Jetz plane? Cause I notice on the canucks photos there are canucks logos on the seats. I am assuming you don't go through changing the logos as every team boards? Also, what kind of crew gets to fly these guys around? A certain experience or seniority level?

No socializing, not that you couldn't it just looks bad. I just wait for their bus to pull up. Let the F.A. do the chatting. As for crew just depends who is on reserve that day. Those kinds of trips usually come up at short notice. So they are not planned on our schedules.

[Pratt X 3]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a US carrier, charter or no, can't go point to point within Canada, thats cabotage, n'est pas?

I have no reference to back it up, but I believe that there is an exemption to the Cabotage Laws for Air Carriers flying sports teams around. Not sure if its part of the Free Trade Agreement or if its part of some Open Sky treaty.

[FICU]

No socializing, not that you couldn't it just looks bad. I just wait for their bus to pull up. Let the F.A. do the chatting.

Some crews get pictures taken with some players but to me, they are no more than guys who can play hockey who get paid way too much to do so... nothing special!

[E-Flyer]

Do you have much time for socializing with the players ?

Does each time charter its own Air Canada Jetz plane? Cause I notice on the canucks photos there are canucks logos on the seats. I am assuming you don't go through changing the logos as every team boards? Also, what kind of crew gets to fly these guys around? A certain experience or seniority level?

No socializing, not that you couldn't it just looks bad. I just wait for their bus to pull up. Let the F.A. do the chatting. As for crew just depends who is on reserve that day. Those kinds of trips usually come up at short notice. So they are not planned on our schedules.

Why would it look bad if you talk with the hockey players?

[k411]

Do you have much time for socializing with the players ?

Does each time charter its own Air Canada Jetz plane? Cause I notice on the canucks photos there are canucks logos on the seats. I am assuming you don't go through changing the logos as every team boards? Also, what kind of crew gets to fly these guys around? A certain experience or seniority level?

No socializing, not that you couldn't it just looks bad. I just wait for their bus to pull up. Let the F.A. do the chatting. As for crew just depends who is on reserve that day. Those kinds of trips usually come up at short notice. So they are not planned on our schedules.

Why would it look bad if you talk with the hockey players?

Because were talking about the leafs here...

[jetguy4u]

Looks like Air Canada Jetz wont be doing this for long...

Is this ALPA's revenge?

After months of ALPA’s efforts in lobbying and educating U.S. regulators about the negative effect of cabotage, the Department of Transportation on Monday reversed a decision made last year by the Bush administration that allowed a series of charter flights by Air Canada to provide transportation for the National Hockey League’s Boston Bruins during the 2008–2009 season. That decision opened the door to additional contracts the carrier has secured since with the Milwaukee Bucks and the St. Louis Blues.

“When it comes to fighting cabotage, ALPA scored a hat trick with this DOT decision,” said Capt. Paul Rice, ALPA’s first vice president. “After basically getting stonewalled by the Bush administration, we kept in the game by engaging the new administration on this issue, and working with the AFL-CIO and the TTD, as well as the major U.S. airline trade associations—ATA and NACA—to put a stop to this blatant violation of the U.S. code.”

The department’s investigation into this matter found that Air Canada carried cabotage traffic on these charter operations, concluding that in light of “the inherently variable nature of a sports team’s personnel during a season, there appears to be no practical means to ensure that there would not be carriage of U.S. domestic-only traffic during any season-long contract.” The letter, which DOT sent to Air Canada’s regulatory lawyer on Monday, went on to state: “We do not see any way in which Air Canada can continue to market and operate season-long charter contracts in the future for sports teams,” and advises the carrier “to take steps to cancel any such current contracts.”

ALPA began to work on overturning DOT’s decision to permit Air Canada to carry the Bruins immediately after the department issued it last year. ALPA then teamed up with industry partners to build the argument for the DOT that the charter flights—which at one point included 18 consecutive segments between U.S. cities over a two month period—directly violated U.S. Code Title 49. The Association also engaged congressmen, including Rep. James Oberstar (D-Minn.), who urged the DOT to revisit its decision on this matter.

“ALPA brought it to the Obama administration’s attention, and the DOT started an investigation,” Rice said. “While the investigation is still under way, this letter proves that we were right. It shows how your union protects your flying and works to reverse bad decisions that could set devastating precedents for undermining laws that every country and every airline should adhere to and respect.”

[mucktuk]

Do you rest better with the new handle now, Schlem?

@FICU,

What type a/c were you flying the Avalanche around on? I have to admit your nickname has me curious as it matches the reg of a LR35 that used to be operated by that fine company CGAA (insert sarcasm here), may they burn in hell, I mean rest in peace.

Hi,

737-200.

I flew ICU before *that* outfit got their hands on it! I doubt anyone from CGAA management is resting very well these days!

[FICU]

Do you rest better with the new handle now, Schlem?

I got tired of explaining what "Schlem" meant... thanks for noticing.

I hope you have at least eaten muktuk in order to carry that name.

[jeta1]

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[Hedley]

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