Episode 2 Teaser of Dust Up ~ A Sprayer's Paradise

[Cam]

I thought the planes were Air Tractor's. But they are not.

[HuD 91gt]

Pretty sure I met that head character in Nipawin one night during a medevac. Small industry

[DustUpTv]

Not to my knowledge

Did they ever determine why the engine quit?

[kiloindiapapa]

Quote from Shannon Jardine, Daughter of Bud Jardine

"When I left home, I got the perspective that, 'Wow, I come from an amazing place,'" Shannon says. "The people here are one of a kind. They're incredibly hearty, with resilience and a great sense of humour. . . . It's a whole different lifestyle."

Part of the article from a previous post.

For years, son Brennan was Bud's partner, but after the two had a falling out over the family farm and the crop-dusting operation, Brennan went into business for himself, competing against his dad.

"There was a pretty dark stretch where we weren't even talking," says Brennan, who simultaneously rejects and thrives on his portrayal in Dust Up as "the rebellious son."[/b

I guess one of a kind, hearty and resilient people just dont know how to get along. Especially ones that are related to each other.

Ill watch the show because I love flying and airplanes, too bad it has to be at the expense of others diginity.

[floatpilot]

The mavrick: = TOOL. Nuff said.

[Crusty]

Tonight's recap in case you missed it:

Episode 1

It's way too windy to go flying, dangerously windy... But nobody lives forever... So Brennan goes for it! Later, Brennan's "elevator flaps" are jamming and making the airplane impossible to control. After landing he doesn't see anything obviously wrong so he takes off again. This time he almost dies! The "elevator flaps" completely jam while he's diving to land. Then they break free and completely jam in a dangerous climb! They break free and with split second timing he's able to land without dying.

Meanwhile, Travis takes delivery of his new Brave. This one is much more advanced than the Pawnee, it has a mixture control.

During the credits we find out that it was a chunk of earth under the floorboards that jammed Brennan's elevator, everybody has a good chuckle.

Episode 2

Travis doesn't have an air operator certificate. He's only allowed to spray within 25 miles of his farm. No matter though, in the interest of making money he decides to spray a field 170km from home. A call from TC ends his plans. They can fine you $5000 per quarter. In Nipawin math $5000/quarter with 4 quarters per year = over $30,000 per year. Travis goes to plan B, he'll be back in a few days with an Air Operator Certificate.

Meanwhile Brennan is swamped with work. He needs a ground crew. He has the 10 year old from the farm next door climb onto his running plane and pledge the windshield.

Bud has problems of his own. His plane keeps eating magnetos. 3 of them in half an hour. No wonder small planes are so dangerous! The end.

[torquey401]

Just watched for the first time. What a load of dramatized BS. Cool planes and great scenery, but talk about a bunch of egos! WOW!

And that jack ass narrator isn't helping!

[Shiny Side Up]

Travis goes to plan B, he'll be back in a few days with an Air Operator Certificate.

This was my favorite part of the episode. Does he deal with the same TC that we know and love? OC in a "few" days, I call horse-puckeys. Will that mean the next episode are going to have some over-dramatized shots of him on hold on the phone with TC? Is he going to flip out as he gets transferred to yet another voice mail? Ooh, better yet, will he make a critical error and arrive at the regional office at lunchtime... Stay tuned next week, same bat-time, same bat-channel.

[peakbagger]

Good show so far

Thanks for making it

[pianodude]

watched the first fifteen minutes and just couldn't stomach the drama and hype... my$.02

[kiloindiapapa]

[quote="DustUpTv"]Information about the crash portrayed on Episode #1 of Dust Up.

From the Transport Canada Website...

On June 13, 2010, a Piper PA-25-235 had just taken off from Nipawin, Sask., to conduct aerial spraying when the pilot observed a partial loss of engine power. As the pilot turned the aircraft clear of built-up areas to jettison the chemical load, the engine lost all power. The aircraft descended and collided with trees on the east bank of the Saskatchewan River. The aircraft came to rest, inverted with substantial damage The pilot sustained serious injuries. TSB File A10C0085.

There is also an interview with him that unfortunately did not make it into the show:

http://youtu.be/dgFwQ_atqUc

Sure looks like when they pulled the plane out of the bush that it had a prop bent from entering the trees under power......Just an observation. Check out 19:27 of episode 2 on history telvision (history.ca)

[Shiny Side Up]

Sure looks like when they pulled the plane out of the bush that it had a prop bent from entering the trees under power

Prop blades bend diferently when they contact objects while they're making power. That one visible in the still you took look like they do when they run into something when its not turning.

[kiloindiapapa]

Sure looks like when they pulled the plane out of the bush that it had a prop bent from entering the trees under power

Prop blades bend diferently when they contact objects while they're making power. That one visible in the still you took look like they do when they run into something when its not turning.

Heres one bent under power. Look similar to me.

[ArcticKat]

I dunno, the prop on the pawnee looks like it was bent backwards whereas the one on the B200 looks like it was bent laterally.

[Moose47]

The blade on the 200 looks like a boomerang

[beaver1]

[nacho]

The industry doesn't need the scripted drama bullshit of something like this . Period
Among other things you can see one of them chasing a flock of ducks until he hits one for the camera and the drama of striped gears on the engine after the strike...I could puke....


I guess GYOY still has the same magneto problems ? She went to Nipawin 4 years ago, we kept telling TC she was sold...I guess they never registered it.

Gentleman,

For all of you who care: The aerial application industry is not this soap opera.

There are plenty of professional operators out there worthy of a show and everybody declined due to the common understanding that our industry needs to be portrayed in a professional manner.
We have it tough with regulations and public acceptance of what we do and most of us strive to fly as professionals who care about the farmers crops, regulations and the environment.

There will be always someone thirsty for the 5 minutes of fame.

We'll see what kind of interest TC shows on this thing.

My $ 0 .02

[Flybabe]

nacho - BRAVO! I was hoping you'd chime in as well.

[Tom H]

I usually lurk and occasionally post about upcoming events at the Alberta Aviation Museum where I am Executive Director. And while I fly myself it is just recreational and in light aircraft so it is very rarely I disagree with professional pilots/technicians.

But I'm afraid that while I agree with most of the comments on the content of Dust Up as far as today's programming goes it's not bad and I enjoy anything with aircraft.

From a greater perspective I think anyone in aviation should be ecstatic the show is on the air!

We live in a day and age where flying is under attack from all sides...
- Airports are being lost due to indifference and apathy
- New people are not coming into the field recreationally or professionally in any significant numbers
- People are not aware of all that provides the community and the benefit it brings.
- Kids think flight sim is flying and are blocked from getting any closer to the real thing than their computer.
- Young people have no idea of the opportunities that are in the industry as techs or aircrew.

The Aviation community in general is doing little to nothing to interact with the greater community. The industry in general is no better so the situation is getting worse.

So along comes Dust Up/Ice Pilots/Flying Wild Alaska etc. and generate interest and excitement in select aspects of aviation...yes it's TV but I want to thank them for doing something to interest and educate the non aviation public. For creating some awareness it's not all people tubes and security lines.

To the individuals and businesses that are active in educating, promoting, supporting aviation I want to thank you too. We need more of you at Fly Ins, getting kids involved and doing things to make the community aware of what aviation does for the non flyers or non aviation community.

Because if we don't you will continue to lose airports, like Edmonton City Centre and Burlington, because people think it does nothing for them...that it's just a bunch of rich guys and executives...and we all lose.

Sorry for the diatribe but we have to start acting, promoting, supporting and communicating with the apathetic public or all that will be left is museums...an we are fighting to survive too.

Tom Hinderks

[Flybabe]

Hi Tom -

While I agree that showcasing aviation is a worthy endeavour and should be supported (I don't think there is ANY sign of lack of support for aviation itself on this thread), I - and several who either HAVE BEEN or ARE in the aerial application industry do NOT support the lack of professionalism displayed on this program. This extends to the professional organizations representing active members of national aerial applicator associations, both the U.S. and Canada.

If we are an industry expect to be regarded as professionals by peers and outside interests alike, programs that detract from those very values do nothing but undermine that effort. Frankly, it is hogwash such as this that casts a dim light on the industry and only serves to propagate the stereotypes that we have fought hard to dispel.

I love seeing interesting aviation programs as much as the next guy (or gal) - but I know when a program goes a bit too far.

[Tom H]

Hi Tom -

While I agree that showcasing aviation is a worthy endeavour and should be supported (I don't think there is ANY sign of lack of support for aviation itself on this thread), I - and several who either HAVE BEEN or ARE in the aerial application industry do NOT support the lack of professionalism displayed on this program. This extends to the professional organizations representing active members of national aerial applicator associations, both the U.S. and Canada.

If we are an industry expect to be regarded as professionals by peers and outside interests alike, programs that detract from those very values do nothing but undermine that effort. Frankly, it is hogwash such as this that casts a dim light on the industry and only serves to propagate the stereotypes that we have fought hard to dispel.

I love seeing interesting aviation programs as much as the next guy (or gal) - but I know when a program goes a bit too far.

Guess I'm not being clear enough....

I don't disagree with what you are saying...I would prefer better content and programming.

But at this point in time I've come to realize "Something is Better than nothing".

I have just lived through the ECCA debate here in Edmonton, fought hard to keep the airport and was constantly hammered by apathy, indifference and misinformed people that though reading a handful of computer links made them aviation experts.

The airport lost because too many people had no idea what aviation does, too many people felt aviation was a entitled rich boys camp, too many people had no idea of the benefit and dollars that aviation brings to communities.

It was easier for them to believe that they were subsidizing a bunch of rich guys.

The aviation community in general is not reaching the community, in fact few do much at all.
Getting folks to fly into events that involve the public is getting tougher and tougher in spite of offering incentives and freebies.

So the general public gets more and more apathetic and adverse to aviation as a whole. unless it involves a ticket to somewhere they want to go.

So along come some so-so reality series that are "just TV"..at least they are getting people excited! Interested! I grit my teeth and go GREAT!

If they get interested enough to visit us we can educate them. If they get interested enough they will go to a fly in or airshow and then the community can educate them.

Because while I agree those I this thread and most on this forum likely support aviation how many actually take steps to do something to make it happen.

I truly do apologize for ranting, but I'm having to deal with the damage the ECCA decision does to our Museum and I'm seeing how decimating it is to friends and acquaintances on the airport. Frankly it sickens me.

But if we want it to stop people need to be aware of what aviation is and does as well as the benefits it brings.

If we as a community can't get the message across I'll take chessy TV that does.

I think we are on the same side...just a different view

I'll go back to lurking now

Tom

[Cat Driver]

I would like to think that over the past half a century that I was active in aviation that I did something to further aviation.

However if the mentality displayed in this T.V. Drama is where aviation is headed you can count me out of your world.

[oldyellr]

I - and several who either HAVE BEEN or ARE in the aerial application industry do NOT support the lack of professionalism displayed on this program.

Just my 2 cents from the peanut gallery (I'm not an active pilot, got as far as solo about 30-odd years ago, but I've been interested in aircraft and flying all my life)... If these "reality" shows about flying were just all about professionalism and how things really work, they would be boring as hell to the Great Unwashed and nobody would watch them. You know than most people watch NASCAR for the crashes, not the skillful driving and technology. In the end, TV is all about the bottom line.

[MUSKEG]

Shows that pit family members against one another in my opinion when painfully scripted and stupid does not depict the aviation community I want to be involved in. Sometimes, "something is better than nothing" so will someone please do something because this is nothing.

[kiloindiapapa]

Watching Bud Jardine parade his sons wrecked aircraft through the streets of Nipawin pretty much says it all. These guys really think they are some real cool cats. Enough to make my stomach turn.