king air to air canada

[Dark Helmet]

DockJock,

First of all , this topic is about King Air to AC, not CMA B1900 to AC.

Respectfully, I do not think you or I or anyone-else knows how many Jazz pilots were interviewed and hired by WJ vs how many were interviewed and hired by AC. Unless you have actual figures that the rest of us don't.

FYI many pilots at Jazz were called and interviewed by WJ long before their number came up for their AC interview.

I do know that the success rate at WJ vs AC was much much higher. I can count on 1 hand how many Jazz pilots were turned down by WJ.

Why would going to Jazz be a stupid move? Jet time, Heavy turbine, 705, FMS, excellent SOP and training, practically identical operation to that of AC (at least that it what I am told anyways) there is (or was) a large amount of Jazz pilots that went to AC in the past. So again why would going to Jazz be stupid? You make the decsions you can with the facts that you have. Did you knew somethng the rest of us did not?

Yes you were at CMA, and seems like a lot of CMA and GGN drivers got hired by AC back then, was it 25% ratio as well?

Maybe between 05-09 CMA and GGN were the go to companies for a job at AC versus Jazz (or the former regionals that formed Jazz) back in the 90s. So yes if you were at CMA it would not have been wise to go to Jazz. How about if you were not at CMA? I guess in the end you were lucky that you were CMA at the time. Maybe we all should have sent CMA and GGN our resumes instead and held out for it instead of going to Jazz.

I guess today it does not matter, any 704/705 company will do by the looks of it.

FWIW you were absolutely right, Goind to Jazz was stupid if you wanted to get on with AC, smart if WJ was what you wanted. Thanks for proving our point.

Oh, and before you reply with "You are just bitter because you got PFOed, why don't you apply again Blah Blah Blah". My number never came up, doors were closed by then. Now I am actually happy and content at Jazz.

Again, there was never never ever any flowthrough agreement between the 2 companies, not in the 80's, not in the 90's, not in the 2000's as you and sepia so eloquently pointed out, and not now. Period.

Whatever, at the end of the day, we will just have to agree to disagree.

DH

[human garbage]

This kind of story is frustrating for all the hard-working guys out there actively pursuing an Air Canada career. That kid/now Emb Captain, has no appreciation of what he has. Not sure if he'll ever have the capacity to appreciate how fortunate he was. But it is the nerve of the Dad check airman coming to tell a bunch of guys busting their tails on the docks that AC takes family first, then off the street, is the real cherry on this story. Fortunately, as best I understand it, the AC interview process has been cleaned up quite a bit, so that legacy candidates no longer have such a built-in advantage.

For most AC newhires, getting a course date is the culmination of 6-10 years of commercial flying, several jobs, thousands of hours of experience, being based countless places, blood, sweat, and tears. Keep the faith!

JTrain

How do you know he doesn't appreciate what he has?

^ I think the 'kid' has discovered the thread lol... Naw I'm just kidding dude.

Not to speak for JTrain, but there is no way that kid can truly appreciate what he has. Unless you've worked 703/704 on your way up the ladder, you have no proper frame of reference. Argue if you like, but everyone here knows its true.

I don't know which is worse; not knowing how lucky you are to have the job you do, or knowing if it weren't for Daddy you wouldn't be anywhere close to where you are...

[SAR_YQQ]

Unless you've worked 703/704 on your way up the ladder, you have no proper frame of reference. Argue if you like, but everyone here knows its true.

What's 703/704? I fully expect to be picked up by the airlines when I decide that I am done having fun while flying. I don't think I will need to work the docks first.

It's pretty arrogant to put a job so high up on a pedestal that you feel someone needs to be worthy for it. It's just a job and in the end, it's just another plane.

FWIW I just moved from a King Air 90 to a 707. I'll be AC in about 6 months - and that's just because of the time required to get good at AAR. This industry is a self-licking ice cream cone - we impose huge requirements to accomplish a rather simple job.

[Mclovin]

Unless you've worked 703/704 on your way up the ladder, you have no proper frame of reference. Argue if you like, but everyone here knows its true.

What's 703/704? I fully expect to be picked up by the airlines when I decide that I am done having fun while flying. I don't think I will need to work the docks first.

It's pretty arrogant to put a job so high up on a pedestal that you feel someone needs to be worthy for it. It's just a job and in the end, it's just another plane.

FWIW I just moved from a King Air 90 to a 707. I'll be AC in about 6 months - and that's just because of the time required to get good at AAR. This industry is a self-licking ice cream cone - we impose huge requirements to accomplish a rather simple job.

Just have to ask. Where the crap are you flying a 707? That is awesome........and you mean AC as in Aircraft Commander?

[SAR_YQQ]

Just have to ask. Where the crap are you flying a 707? That is awesome........and you mean AC as in Aircraft Commander?

Yeh sorry for the acronyms. Aircraft Captain/Commander = AC

Lots of 707s still flying - in the Military. I am flying an E-3B/C Sentry.