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Re: Which AME course to do

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...you've got it all wrong Columbo...like I said, not me.

Warning, I can understand, Poisoning, I can't.

Because you haven't had good experiences doesn't mean they're not there. I've had many great ones. Not too many bad.

Is there something wrong with me?
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C'mon only 5% getting jobs out of school... no way

http://www.simplyhired.ca/a/jobs/list/q ... e+engineer

I happen to know that AVEOS is looking for 9 mechs right now...Bombardier, looking right now....Premier in Quebec, right now

I can go on 'cause my company's in the same boat.

I'll certainly say they're not all employable but 1 out of 20?

We tried to hire E apprentices a few times in the last couple of years but the schools out west couldn't supply them. Most of them had jobs.
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NeverBlue wrote:C'mon only 5% getting jobs out of school... no way

http://www.simplyhired.ca/a/jobs/list/q ... e+engineer

I happen to know that AVEOS is looking for 9 mechs right now...Bombardier, looking right now....Premier in Quebec, right now

I can go on 'cause my company's in the same boat.

I'll certainly say they're not all employable but 1 out of 20?

We tried to hire E apprentices a few times in the last couple of years but the schools out west couldn't supply them. Most of them had jobs.
So.. If you include manufacturing jobs (which there is no need or point in going to college for) And forget about all the high time apprentices still out of work due to Recent layoffs and bankruptcies, and all the never employed graduates from years past that haven't given up hope, then by your calculations there is currently about 1 job available per college. And on those odds of employment your reccomending kids spend $20,000 to $30,000 and 2 years of their life to attempt to gain entry into a downsizing and outsourcing field that experienced people have gone to the trouble to write and publish a book to warn others to stay away from.

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Re: Which AME course to do

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Post secondary education is a huge investment of time, effort and money, do the research and make sure the odds of a good payback are there at the end ( chances of employment, pay, working conditions, job satisfaction, stability etc.)

What other industry or career has a had a book written for the purpose of warning people about the conditions within the trade? And though some may feel differently it doesn't take a lot of reading on this forum or many visits to a local hangar to realize that a very large portion of AME's are in agreement with the premise and conclusions of this book.

For the sake of twenty bucks buy the book, follow up with some personal investigation, talk with the college and then make your own informed decision.
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Stumper wrote:..then by your calculations there is currently about 1 job available per college. And on those odds of employment your reccomending kids spend $20,000 to $30,000 and 2 years of their life to attempt to gain entry into a downsizing and outsourcing field that experienced people have gone to the trouble to write and publish a book to warn others to stay away from.
Who spends 20-30K to go through AME school!? Maybe times have changed (maybe it varies between provinces), but I spent less than $6,000 on my AME tuition 12 years ago. Throw in another $1,500 on tools before I was licenced, and it was all a pretty sweet/cheap deal in my books. Even factoring in inflation, it still comes in under 10K in 2012 dollars.

As for job availability, I'll do my annual 'take 15 minutes to check the job boards' post. These are ads listed on only two websites. No doubt, a few phone calls will reveal more companies looking, as not everyone advertises publicly.

Postings since early January:

Lakelse Air - Looking for AMEs
Select Helicopter Services - Looking for Component Technician
Wood Buffalo Helicopters - Looking for AMEs and Apprentices
Horizon Helicopters - Looking for AME and Apprentice
Heli Welders - Looking for Maintenance and Structures AMEs and Apprentices
Bailey Helicopters - Looking for AMEs
Great Slave Helicopters - Looking for of AMEs and Component Technician
Guardian Helicopters - Looking for AMEs and Apprentices
Highland Helicopters - (not listed, but known to be looking for AMEs and Apprentices)**See note below
Canadian Helicopters - Looking for AMEs and Apprentices
Campbell Helicotpers - Looking for AMEs
Heli Carrier - Looking for AME
Vector Aerospace Helicopter Services - Looking for AMEs and Avionics Technicians
Heli Source Ltd - Looking for AMEs
Transwest Helicopters - Looking for AME
Heli Dynamics - Looking for AMEs
Questral Helicopters - Looking for AMEs

**Note: As for entry level openings, there are some listed here, and if you're finished school (or soon to be) and looking for an apprentice gig in the Vancouver area, PM me and I'll put your resume on the boss's desk in 5 minutes as he's looking for people...
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Gee, you don't think its possible that tuition has risen since you were in school 12 years ago? 20G is bang on for what it will cost someone to get through a school right now. :shock:

The helicopter thing again.... so why is it that fling wing can't attract any talent? In a recession? I don't get it, because I know you're going to say how wonderful it is. Where are all the guys that got laid off a few years back? Nobody wanted to comeback and be around the magical machines? It doesn't make sense that they can't find people if everything so awesome.

As for blue balls, I don't care if your whole family tree has certain problems, doesn't make you any less of one.
"christmas money" meaning "go away to palm trees and not work until march". It was a top up to the financial plan, not an alternative to food stamps. But whatever, believe what you want.

To the noobs, again, just like Stumper says, do some reading(buy "my" book), ask yourself some questions(why is there such a problem in finding people for such a great industry).

If you still feel it's worth 20-30G, go nuts. At least your parents will be able to brag their kid is a aerospace engineer.

I actually heard that before... :lol:
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Re: Which AME course to do

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Thanks The Weasel,

We're intently looking as well...but I've been told I can't say who we are in this Forum :(
We are on those sites though

We're looking at anyone, experienced or not...we looking for the right people

...anyone but Stumper and Pat Richard that is...

http://www.bcit.ca/files/ipao/pdf/quick ... o_2010.pdf

the numbers tell a different story Stumper...or don't you read?
As for blue balls, I don't care if your whole family tree has certain problems, doesn't make you any less of one.
I assume you're talking about me?...nice. You don't care my sister has Downs? what a great guy... That's right I'm the problem. :?:

http://www.bcit.ca/files/pdf/admission/ ... trades.pdf

...more numbers on tuition...under $10,000 for E program
Right from the instructors mouth...
again...I'm NOT an instructor. They don't get paid enough in my opinion ...and always worried about going on strike.
As long as the body's and cash keep rolling in for you eh?
...as long as the aircraft keep rolling in the hanger the cash keeps rolling in for me...and they still are. :smt040
So.. If you include manufacturing jobs (which there is no need or point in going to college for)
:lol: :lol: ...no need at all. They teach "airplane making" in elementary school don't they?

If one has TC approved basic training the chance of advancement within a manufacturing company increases dramatically. I'm Living Proof!!


I LUV MY JOB!!...and nobody will convince me otherwise...
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Re: Which AME course to do

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http://sait.ca/pages/about/publications ... n.shtml#T4

more numbers on AME Grads
Canadore College enrollment is always at capacity and recruitment for the best students is fierce. That is great news for employers looking for graduates in this sector. In fact, in a recent Ontario survey, 100 percent of the employers of Aircraft Structural Repair, Aircraft Maintenance, and Avionics graduates were very satisfied with the skills of the Canadore College graduates they hired.

...just saying
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The Weasel wrote:
Stumper wrote:..then by your calculations there is currently about 1 job available per college. And on those odds of employment your reccomending kids spend $20,000 to $30,000 and 2 years of their life to attempt to gain entry into a downsizing and outsourcing field that experienced people have gone to the trouble to write and publish a book to warn others to stay away from.
Who spends 20-30K to go through AME school!? Maybe times have changed (maybe it varies between provinces), but I spent less than $6,000 on my AME tuition 12 years ago. Throw in another $1,500 on tools before I was licenced, and it was all a pretty sweet/cheap deal in my books. Even factoring in inflation, it still comes in under 10K in 2012 dollars.
20 years ago...

I had my choice. pay rent for 10 months/year at $500-600 per month in Scarberia Ontario, pay for transit, food, entertainment, etc, while holding down a parttime job (a McJob -$7.50/hr fueling aircraft) in YHM. Or I could continue to own the reliable brand new car I had bought to replace the clunker I had, and work more part time hours to pay for it. This cost me $400/month. I could live at home (1-2hrs west of Scarborough, depending on traffic), eat my parents food, let them pay for heat/hydro/cable. That was there contribution to my education. so I chose option B, for the following reason -

Car per school year - $4000
fuel - $2000 (gas was around $0.65-0.75/litre). it cost $22 to fill from empty. I want to cry...
school tuition + books and junk - $2500
lunch (could have made a lunch, but bought instead. perk of going to school in Scarberia) - $1000
Insurance - $2000

total - $11500/year. So $20,000 is not far off what I, myself - not mom or dad, paid. If i stayed in Scarborough, I would have paid about the same, but I don't know how I would have paid for it. At least I had a car when I finished school...

That was 20years ago.

When I have people ask me if I would recommend this career to them, I tell them to come here. Why - because people like Pat Richard and NeverBlue. They are on Polar opposite ends of the spectrum of this as a career. I can tell the potential college student what my experiences are, and I do, but I could be biased (I'm in the middle ground between both Pat R and NeverBlue). One is full of doom and gloom the other seems to think this career is like the gravy train to the good life. At the end of the day, if you decide this is your future go for it. It is not everything that NeverBlue states it is. Same for if you choose not to do this as a career, it is not as bad as Pat makes it out to be. It could be close to what either one of them are saying. Just realize that both individuals are trying to get you to make an informed decision, and are expressing their experiences in this industry. I respect both of them and respect both of their opinions. I wish I had that kind of info 20 years ago.

As for my middle ground, job is OK (but not sunshine and chocolate). Not going to get rich. Tough go with 2 incomes, 2 kids, morgage, vacation, etc. Long time getting to where I am now. Worked for 2 companies - one stopped paying me (bounced paycheck) so I stopped showing up for work. Benefits are ok, vacation time is great (took long time to get it, too). I get to see my kids every night (took a long time for that too). Worked a lot of nights to get straight days (ugh).

At the end of the day would I do something else, yes. I like computer games, that would be my paradise. Am I going to start over, No. Too much time invested to start over, and I'm not that unhappy. Just going to ride the wave till it throws me at the rocks. :rolleyes:

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Re: Which AME course to do

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Thanks rubberboot...appreciate your honesty

but really you can't include the costs of living into the costs of going to school. If you didn't go to school you would still have to live...and that costs no matter what.

No one will get rich going to college and then working for an hourly wage...it's not rocket science.

I like going to work...and that's the ultimate goal because I have to go to work somewhere to pay my mortgage etc.

Graveytrain?...far from it. I've worked very hard to get where I am and have paid my dues doing it.

The only way you'll get rich is by working for yourself and that takes long days and long years to accomplish.

I chose to work for someone else and every paycheque I realize that I'm essentially taking money out of the owners pocket 'cause if he doesn't pay me he keeps it for himself.

I'll never take that lightly...

20 years ago it cost me $600 per year to go to college...well maybe a little over 20 years.
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Post secondary education is a huge investment of time, effort and money, do the research and make sure the odds of a good payback are there at the end ( chances of employment, pay, working conditions, job satisfaction, stability etc.)
Are you serious??

That's right...the odds of employment are much better without post secondary education...you tell em Stump.

The average man lives for over 70 years.
2 years is a huge investment of your time?? too much effort?? unbelievable :shock:

...smoke'n too much weed Einstein
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NeverBlue wrote:
Post secondary education is a huge investment of time, effort and money, do the research and make sure the odds of a good payback are there at the end ( chances of employment, pay, working conditions, job satisfaction, stability etc.)
Are you serious??

That's right...the odds of employment are much better without post secondary education...you tell em Stump.

The average man lives for over 70 years.
2 years is a huge investment of your time?? too much effort?? unbelievable :shock:

...smoke'n too much weed Einstein
Not much for comprehension, huh??

I know you must be excited that people are actually responding to you, but take a moment, wipe the foam from your mouth, and read it again slowly, or maybe have someone else in your family read it and explain it to you.
Where do you see he's inferring any post secondary education is a waist of time? He's advising due diligence before committing to anything, and not go charging in mouthfoaming with a boner.

Sounds like you're in a steady state of the latter.

For Rubberboot, just to slightly clarify, Im not full of doom and gloom just because I counter the lollipops and sunshine bullshit with what I have experienced over the years. The problem is the contrast, and I dare say anyone will find this industry to be more the same, or worse, of what I and many others have described. If the above types weren't so full of shit in there descriptions, my counters wouldn't sound so toxic.
Good reply though, but is pretty much what Stumper, me, etc have repeated here over and over. It's curious that when coming from someone else vs. me, the same message of diligence is appreciated.

Says something about the mindset.

(propaganda link)Yes, very nice numbers indeed, but I wouldn't expect any different from any school trying to round up business. I hear completely the opposite from graduates. Maybe they should read the stats too...

You don't feel the slightest bit idiotic quoting that info??? Not even a little??

Jesus, "You can't factor in the cost of living when going to school." ????

Thanks again for proving my point about your faculties.
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...we're talking about the cost of school...not living.

I's the job market for a BA graduate that has just spent $40,000 on tuition any better?

Propaganda? They are government regulated surveys completed by the graduates. KPI's they call them in Ontario I think.

Do you believe anything besides your own pessimistic views?

Hey Pat...the earth...she's ROUND :P ...really
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NeverBlue wrote:Thanks rubberboot...appreciate your honesty

but really you can't include the costs of living into the costs of going to school. If you didn't go to school you would still have to live...and that costs no matter what.
To be realistic, you have to add these costs... college/university tuition is such a small part of the equation. If you live in Kingston, and go to Centennial, your expenses are going to be higher. You can't live at home in some cases to go to school. To say otherwise is an attempt to skew the numbers in a light to prove a point. Lets be above board to the original poster, so he/she can make an informed decision.
I've worked very hard to get where I am and have paid my dues doing it.
So have I. Still doesn't mean this is the be all end all career. I'm in a good place right now, doesn't mean it won't change. It has in the past - alternated between crap and good constantly. If you feel that you love your job, great. I've worked with some great people, and they moved on when the BS got to much. I am still where I am because I know how to play the game, and carry a big shovel....
Pat Richard wrote:For Rubberboot, just to slightly clarify, Im not full of doom and gloom just because I counter the lollipops and sunshine bullshit with what I have experienced over the years.
Sorry Pat, poor choice of words. I have read your posts (with interest) and find them a little "dark", but not unrealistic. I don't work with anyone that believes they are in heaven. But I also don't hear on a daily basis that this job is crap either. what I do hear is that it is a job, a way to make ends meet. Nothing more. I agree that the prospects in aviation are bleak. Not a positive sign when Jazz shuts down their maintenance in YXU. Not a positive sign for 3rd party stuff in Canada, the instant the dollar hit par. Not positive sign when South American countries can charge $65(pesos, or similar) per hour for maintenance work, which is a fraction of the US/CAN dollar.

But, I do see positive signs that there is hiring. I do see signs that some employers are changing there attitudes towards employees and I hope it continues, and at a quicker pace. Thankfully, the old style of management (thru intimidation) will change in correlation with retirement (hopefully).

I am fortunate to not have had to move, like some others. Others have not been so lucky. Sucks when you live in Calgary and have to go to Oshawa for a Job. Makes seeing the family at Christmas time expensive.
It's curious that when coming from someone else vs. me, the same message of diligence is appreciated.
Please realize, I am not "vs" you. I don't even know you. I have made the mistake in the past of disliking someone before actually getting to know them, and I refuse to repeat the same error. I think you, Stumper, NeverBlue, iflyforpie, etc all perform a valuable service to all. So keep screaming at the top of your lungs. :smt023

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You weren't who I had in mind when I made the comment. I think it's pretty clear. You, me and another give the same end advice, but garner different responses.

Sorry Pat, poor choice of words. I have read your posts (with interest) and find them a little "dark", but not unrealistic. I don't work with anyone that believes they are in heaven. But I also don't hear on a daily basis that this job is crap either. what I do hear is that it is a job, a way to make ends meet. Nothing more. I agree that the prospects in aviation are bleak. Not a positive sign when Jazz shuts down their maintenance in YXU. Not a positive sign for 3rd party stuff in Canada, the instant the dollar hit par. Not positive sign when South American countries can charge $65(pesos, or similar) per hour for maintenance work, which is a fraction of the US/CAN dollar.
I think you're pretty much agreeing with what I said on this thread, and generally throughout this forum, albeit more softly in tone.
Me, most of my posts are written when Im pissed off with garbage I've just read, so it hardly makes for a rosy demeanor when composing a response.
Having said that, I've never regretted anything I've posted here, I actually regret not having gone further with some.

Anyway, my shouting days are (mostly) done. That was the reason for requesting the threads be stickied.
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Re: Which AME course to do

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Well I am new to writing anything in this forum but I have followed this one being curious as to its outcome and what people are saying about training today.

Unfortunately the “trolls” as someone put it did find their way into this thread.

The bickering between NB, PR, jsmetal….and Stumper is typical on this type of subject but it’s easy to figure out the theme of their posts if you read closely and follow their history of posts throughout this site.
Forgive me all but I still don’t see the problem with anyone giving positive feedback to someone that has seemingly made up their mind as to what they want to take after high school. ( as the originator of this thread has, I think, if you read his/her question)

The majority of posters on this thread did say good things and that they have had both good and bad experiences. This I believe to be true as with every industry people will succeed and people will fail. Some will like what they do and some won’t. Some do it for money and some for the money and for the fact that they enjoy it. And really, some hate everybody and everything about it.

I still haven’t seen any post that NB wrote saying that the industry was “all roses”. I’ve only seen him/her comment on their personal experience. I don’t think there is any reason to doubt it, it seems genuine. But when someone attacks them for just being positive and then attacks their opinions for really just being theirs, it’s easy to make choices on who to take seriously and who to believe.

If someone has taken the time to join and attend Air Cadets then that person probably has some sort of passion concerning aviation. Why should anyone try to change that? I wish I had a passion for something when I was young. Encouraging passion is how the world was built. It’s how man has developed as we have. It’s why we can fly!

Now for the quotes,
Want worse news? Governments are allowing work to be sent abroad.

-Unfortunately this is not confined to aviation so don’t think that getting into another field will change that.
If you are looking at a Monday to Friday 9 to 5 lifestyle then I would look at another career choice.
-There are lots of jobs in aviation that don’t include night shift.
Oh yeah, Im writing this from beautiful 04:52 am grave yard shift.
Greatly rewarding, yeah, thats it..
I guess I need to set my expectations lower.

-Writing in a forum during their shift promoting a book that shoots the industry down in which he/she is currently making a living. The irony here is hysterical.
Realize that aviation often like the market, sees and feels the economic slow downs first.

-The only comment I have on this one is “I beg your pardon sir?”
Stay away from schools that do both at the same time...this is not a good model

-Maybe not in your opinion but there have been great people come out of there
Ok, i know its your opinion but i have never heard someone say that BCIT produces the best apprentices...ever. I went to BCIT

-Again, irony, hysterical
I have met many great graduates from Canadore, SAIT, NAIT and BCIT and would recommend any of those schools.

-Need I say more?
Anyways, you may not want to hear this NeverBlue but i have made a good living at this, i work a week on week off schedule and i get wicked benefits and ok pay, and i'm good. So bite me.

- I’m not sure what his/her point is as that’s what I think NB was saying as well
You're obviously at the intelligence level expected of a bcit instructor you fucking retard.

-Not sure who he’s actually calling this name but completely inappropriate and insensitive to everyone viewing this thread.
I was purely motivated by financial gain, not potential erections due to aircraft contact.
-Now some may not get a “boner” every time they touch an airplane, but some might and I’d rather have the guy with the boner working on my aircraft…metaphorically speaking of course.
" I've gone to school but I can't get a job no one will hire me boo hoo... I've been waiting by the phone but it won't ring.. Boo Hoo Hoo
..welcome to the real world

- This one makes you look like an ass. It’s reality but not very funny as unemployment in this country climbs closer to 10%

I’ve been in aviation many years. Ups and downs, of course there are but any industry will have their share. The passionate ones usually stick it out and succeed as a result.

Good Luck crazygood150. God Speed
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Why am i a bad guy for not endorsing the school i went to? Its my experience, am i not allowed to say it? I dont want to get into my history around aviation and that i had an excellent role model in my father, and growing up at the hangar and being enthusiastic about aircraft is why i succeeded. I will never and have never recommended BCIT, i was not happy with the course. The original poster was asking which course and school we recommended and i gave my opinion.
I dont spew bull shit on here and when i say be prepared to get treated like poop, i mean it. I was verbally and physically abused when i was a young apprentice. I worked with some extreme assholes, in a company that bred them. However at the end of the day it worked out for me and i got thru the crap and i'm in a good place working for a great company. When people ask me if i recommend being an AME i dont tell them not to, but i only recommend it to people that have a passion for aircraft. Outside of that i havent met too many AME's that are happy with there career choice.
Remember what the OP was asking? And i do still recommend doing Avionics of the 3 AME courses. Have a wonderful day Avcanaders :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Sorry jsmetal..., Maybe I should have clarified.
Anyways, you may not want to hear this NeverBlue but i have made a good living at this, i work a week on week off schedule and i get wicked benefits and ok pay, and i'm good.
I will never and have never recommended BCIT, i was not happy with the course.

However at the end of the day it worked out for me and i got thru the crap and i'm in a good place working for a great company.
As I understand it you have succeeded but refuse to give any credit to you basic training provider.

I am just pointing out the irony in your posts. Nothing more. Your opinion is your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it.

Keep posting. You are providing an invaluable service in my opinion.

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Pat Richard wrote:Gee, you don't think its possible that tuition has risen since you were in school 12 years ago? 20G is bang on for what it will cost someone to get through a school right now. :shock:

The helicopter thing again.... so why is it that fling wing can't attract any talent? In a recession? I don't get it, because I know you're going to say how wonderful it is. Where are all the guys that got laid off a few years back? Nobody wanted to comeback and be around the magical machines? It doesn't make sense that they can't find people if everything so awesome.

As for blue balls, I don't care if your whole family tree has certain problems, doesn't make you any less of one.
"christmas money" meaning "go away to palm trees and not work until march". It was a top up to the financial plan, not an alternative to food stamps. But whatever, believe what you want.

To the noobs, again, just like Stumper says, do some reading(buy "my" book), ask yourself some questions(why is there such a problem in finding people for such a great industry).

If you still feel it's worth 20-30G, go nuts. At least your parents will be able to brag their kid is a aerospace engineer.

I actually heard that before... :lol:
Typical useless post. Your not BANG ON in fact your not even close.

Tuition $20000?? Sait is around 12000. OC/NLC is around 11000. Get real chicken little. I know where you can get a job as an apprentice making 35000 to 45000 per year.

Go do some homework before you spout off your nonsense.
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212wrench, while all schools may not be near the 20k mark; some are. Tuition for the AME-M program with NSCC in Dartmouth is $12000 PER year! :o

I went through that program 2008-2010 and while we were lucky enough to have a 3k tuition reduction in the second year; it was still really pricey. Hindsight is always 20/20 but I wish I had done more research on other schools in the country before making my choice.
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Re: Which AME course to do

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Canadore tuition fees as posted:
http://www.canadorec.on.ca/admissions/fees

Centenial tuition fees:
http://www.centennialcollege.ca/tuitionfees

SAIT tuition fees:
http://sait.ca/pages/cometosait/academi ... .shtml#A-B

College of the North Atlantic tuition fees: seems to be the cheapest
http://www.cna.nl.ca/registration/fees-charges.asp#2

Dartmouth College Tuition: Seems to be way out of wack with everybody else...not sure why but FL290 is right! Wow
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~finaid/fao/coa/

Mohawk College tuition fees:
http://www.mohawkcollege.ca/Assets/Regi ... 2-fees.pdf

Fanshawe tuition fees:
http://www.fanshawec.ca/sites/default/f ... dian11.pdf

as you can see...they're all well below $20,000 for two year Maintenance and Avionics programs...except Dartmouth for soom reason
All provinces will have different subsidies per student.

Most tuition costs are about 1/3 of the actual cost and 2/3 is kicked in by the Provincial and Federal governments.

International students are normally required to pay the full cost as they are not subsidised by the Canadian Governments.

...sorry for my imature behaviour earlier
I don't "fight" very well as I am not used to it.

see ya

PS: Pat please don't quote me incorrectly. This is what I wrote.
but really you can't include the costs of living into the costs of going to school. If you didn't go to school you would still have to live...and that costs no matter what.
...not this
"You can't factor in the cost of living when going to school." ????
Like I said, everybody bears the cost of living no matter if you're in school or not. Tuition is always on top of living costs and that changes everywhere you go...
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Re: Which AME course to do

Post by FL290 »

NeverBlue,

You linked to the wrong college... that one is down in New Hampshire somewhere... :lol:

Here is the list for NSCC tuition and yes, it is much more expensive.

http://nscc.ca/admissions/cost_and_fina ... fault.aspx

The program must not be subsidized. :x

Seeing that list makes me pretty upset considering what we had to pay for school here... and we don't really graduate with anything more.
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Re: Which AME course to do

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NeverBlue wrote:Like I said, everybody bears the cost of living no matter if you're in school or not. Tuition is always on top of living costs and that changes everywhere you go...
Crazygood150 - everyone has an opinion about what to include into the true cost of schooling. My advice to you, as you are most likely to continue with this as a career path, is to budget at least $20,000 dollars for the 2 years. Doesn't matter how much the tuition is, as long as on top of it, you can get the money to survive - part time, full time, grants, loans, or mom and dad. If you do not include the incidentals like housing, clothing, transportation, beer fund, etc., you are going to find yourself in a bind. the Tuition is the minor part of the problem - living on a reduced (part time salary) is the biggest issue you will have. If you manage to complete your schooling for under that amount, great - you can take a vacation somewhere. Just remember that student loans need to be repaid, with interest.

Good luck,

Respectfully,
r/b
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Re: Which AME course to do

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Well said...I guess that's the way we should have said it in the beginning.

Just so you know, right now it costs me around $40,000 per year to live...and I don't pay any tuition... :(
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Re: Which AME course to do

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NeverBlue wrote:Canadore tuition fees as posted:
http://www.canadorec.on.ca/admissions/fees

Centenial tuition fees:
http://www.centennialcollege.ca/tuitionfees

SAIT tuition fees:
http://sait.ca/pages/cometosait/academi ... .shtml#A-B

College of the North Atlantic tuition fees: seems to be the cheapest
http://www.cna.nl.ca/registration/fees-charges.asp#2

Dartmouth College Tuition: Seems to be way out of wack with everybody else...not sure why but FL290 is right! Wow
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~finaid/fao/coa/

Mohawk College tuition fees:
http://www.mohawkcollege.ca/Assets/Regi ... 2-fees.pdf

Fanshawe tuition fees:
http://www.fanshawec.ca/sites/default/f ... dian11.pdf

as you can see...they're all well below $20,000 for two year Maintenance and Avionics programs...except Dartmouth for soom reason
All provinces will have different subsidies per student.

Most tuition costs are about 1/3 of the actual cost and 2/3 is kicked in by the Provincial and Federal governments.

International students are normally required to pay the full cost as they are not subsidised by the Canadian Governments.

...sorry for my imature behaviour earlier
I don't "fight" very well as I am not used to it.

see ya

PS: Pat please don't quote me incorrectly. This is what I wrote.
but really you can't include the costs of living into the costs of going to school. If you didn't go to school you would still have to live...and that costs no matter what.
...not this
"You can't factor in the cost of living when going to school." ????
Like I said, everybody bears the cost of living no matter if you're in school or not. Tuition is always on top of living costs and that changes everywhere you go...
You missed one
http://www.nlc.bc.ca/Admissions/TuitionFees.aspx

Thats $6200 total.
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