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Keewatin

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Looking for current info, the search did not come up with too much

Pay, is there a company scale if so it it indexed by years TT or both?

Schedule, the ad says 2 in 2 out for the medivac, what does the charter side do? Is that the rotation in Winnipeg too?

maintenance, good bad or flying POS?

Bond or training agreemnet

Thanks!
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Re: Keewatin

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Bond 2 years.
F/O $25k
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Re: Keewatin

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30 ish for 1900, 5K/yr raise all positions. Plus ~5K yr per diems
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Re: Keewatin

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Are all flight crews required to live in YWG or are rotational pilots allowed to commute from other cities?
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Re: Keewatin

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Thanks, and the left seat wages?

Is the bond cash up front if so how much?
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Went through the interview process a couple weeks ago,

Skipper starting wages:

BE20: 45,900
PC12: 60,000
BE02: ???

Perdiems are given on "on" days, I forget the exact amount but 40 a day rings a bell. The bond is not cash up front, but a training agreement. technically a 13 and 13 rotation for the medevac side, not sure about the charter king air. Upgrades to the lears are internal from what I recall. A couple friends work there, have positive things to say about the company. It also comes with jumpseats on AC and Jazz. Expect a sim eval if the interview goes well, pay your own way there.

I've opted to pass on following this any further, couldn't justify the pay cut. Good luck to those of you that apply, as I said I've heard pretty much only positive things from the few that I know there.

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Re: Keewatin

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200 left seat was 45k 10 years ago for the Rankin base.
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45k??? really. Aren't those medevac birds? Their EIC sister is paying their medevac guys 40k MORE than that.
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Re: Keewatin

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Yes that is correct,

The starting salary is 45900 annual plus per diems as Captain on the 200 ( 40 dollars a day for days away from the Winnipeg base ) . They are really good at promoting people from within such as FO with little PIC time and 0 MPIC time. Medevac/charter 200 Pilots work a 13 days rotational shift and get a block of 13 days off. Although captain start on the low side the 5K yearly raise up to 5 years is a nice incentive for people to stay within the company. Good group of people.
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Re: Keewatin

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they are asking for 500 tt multi IFR

how do they see people with 1000 hrs and most of them are from instructing. do they see it valuable?
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Re: Keewatin

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esp803 wrote:Went through the interview process a couple weeks ago,

Skipper starting wages:

BE20: 45,900
PC12: 60,000
BE02: ???

Perdiems are given on "on" days, I forget the exact amount but 40 a day rings a bell. The bond is not cash up front, but a training agreement. technically a 13 and 13 rotation for the medevac side, not sure about the charter king air. Upgrades to the lears are internal from what I recall. A couple friends work there, have positive things to say about the company. It also comes with jumpseats on AC and Jazz. Expect a sim eval if the interview goes well, pay your own way there.

I've opted to pass on following this any further, couldn't justify the pay cut. Good luck to those of you that apply, as I said I've heard pretty much only positive things from the few that I know there.

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I went through the interview several months back and the PC12 capt position was quoted to me at $45,900 with a $12K bond of 2 yrs, I also decided to pass but maybe you had time on type
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wirez wrote:Bond 2 years.
F/O $25k
Absolutely criminal.
volez wrote:
volez wrote:The starting salary is 45900 annual plus per diems as Captain on the 200 ( 40 dollars a day for days away from the Winnipeg base ) .
I'm assuming the 45K a year posted is gross pay not take home. I guess it is good for those living in mom's basement, eating her food. But for a family man trying to raise a family...............Good luck fella's, not this guy.
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25K bond?? WTF? When are they getting the 787's? I'm sorry, did all you guys arrive in a short bus?
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Sam300 wrote:I went through the interview several months back and the PC12 capt position was quoted to me at $45,900 with a $12K bond of 2 yrs, I also decided to pass but maybe you had time on type
Nope no time on type (PC12), but I think they were having trouble attracting people over the Beech products. Too many people want MPIC... So they upped the initial PC12 rates. It's a shame they are no where near the wages of Borek Skippers who previously held that contract...
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esp803 wrote:
Sam300 wrote:I went through the interview several months back and the PC12 capt position was quoted to me at $45,900 with a $12K bond of 2 yrs, I also decided to pass but maybe you had time on type
Nope no time on type (PC12), but I think they were having trouble attracting people over the Beech products. Too many people want MPIC... So they upped the initial PC12 rates. It's a shame they are no where near the wages of Borek Skippers who previously held that contract...
Indeed it is not anywhere close, but I suppose they are getting closer. (still not enough)Those were the wages they paid years ago

Doc wrote:25K bond?? WTF? When are they getting the 787's? I'm sorry, did all you guys arrive in a short bus?
I agree with you Doc, but you know someone will justify it and the circle will continue
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Sam300 wrote:
Doc wrote:25K bond?? WTF? When are they getting the 787's? I'm sorry, did all you guys arrive in a short bus?
I agree with you Doc, but you know someone will justify it and the circle will continue
With that kind of decision making capability, their resumes belong in the "round" file when they look for their next jobs.
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Re: Keewatin

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Doc wrote:With that kind of decision making capability, their resumes belong in the "round" file when they look for their next jobs.
I love your way of thinking Doc, thats a thumbs up from me. DHC
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What is the ambiance like ? How are pilot's decisions respected? Do they get a lot of pressure from management or are they pretty much left to make their own decisions? How does Keewatin choose their 1900 first officers and the 200 first officers since experience minimums specified are both for the same aircraft? How many hours are flown on average yearly and can someone commute decently from eastern canada whilst working for Keewatin...?
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Re: Keewatin

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Doc wrote:
Sam300 wrote:
Doc wrote:25K bond?? WTF? When are they getting the 787's? I'm sorry, did all you guys arrive in a short bus?
I agree with you Doc, but you know someone will justify it and the circle will continue
With that kind of decision making capability, their resumes belong in the "round" file when they look for their next jobs.
Good thing most of the pilots from keewatin won't be applying to fly a king air back and forth to some shit hole for the rest of there lives.
Get off your horse!
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notpaying wrote:What is the ambiance like ? How are pilot's decisions respected? Do they get a lot of pressure from management or are they pretty much left to make their own decisions? How does Keewatin choose their 1900 first officers and the 200 first officers since experience minimums specified are both for the same aircraft? How many hours are flown on average yearly and can someone commute decently from eastern canada whilst working for Keewatin...?
Ambiance? Soft light. Quiet music. Classic decor. Just what you'd expect from a world class operation.
Are you seriously asking if the pilot's decisions are respected? Really? Gee, try that question in your interview. As you sign your 25 thousand dollar bond, and change your handle to something other than "notpaying".
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Re: Keewatin

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Peakbagger, others feel the same way. You'd be surprised what ends up in round files, and where.

I take it, you think it's okay to force pilots into signing bonds for 25K for training in a King Air? If so, you're part of the problem. Why not put on your "man pants" and try being part of the solution? Having signed bonds, pilots are more susceptible to pressures to push weather, duty times, stretch fuel, because the ass holes running the company have them by the balls! Or, do you not have a pair yourself?
What people like you just don't get, is the fact people like me are on a horse to try and improve the status quo for new pilots.
Perhaps you could supply me with ONE down side from a pilot's side if bonds were abolished?
I wait with baited breath for your reply.
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Re: Keewatin

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wirez wrote:Bond 2 years.
F/O $25k
I think they meant the bond is 2 years and the salary for the F/O is 25k... :wink:
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F/O salary at Keewatin was $25K in 1999.
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Mr.Blonde wrote:
wirez wrote:Bond 2 years.
F/O $25k
I think they meant the bond is 2 years and the salary for the F/O is 25k... :wink:
That's correct. Sorry for the confusion.
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notpaying wrote:What is the ambiance like ? How are pilot's decisions respected? Do they get a lot of pressure from management or are they pretty much left to make their own decisions? How does Keewatin choose their 1900 first officers and the 200 first officers since experience minimums specified are both for the same aircraft? How many hours are flown on average yearly and can someone commute decently from eastern canada whilst working for Keewatin...?
Atmosphere in the company is good - people are generally happy.

Pilot's decisions are very respected - no pressure from management to do anything outside the CARs.

The pilots generally do the choosing of their aircraft based on their own needs and wants - some people like the medevac rotation (2 weeks on/2 weeks off) so they can live outside Winnipeg. Some would rather fly the 1900 based in Winnipeg, than be based up north. Some want the PC12 because it's salary is higher than the multi-engine aircraft and gets to go into some pretty cool places up north that the King Airs and 1900s cannot get into.

600-700 hours a year for most of the pilots.

Many people commute. One pilot lives in Paris (France, not Ontario), one who recently left for AC lived in Moscow (Russia, not Ontario), one lives in North Carolina, many live across the country - BC to NFLD. How easy it is depends on the base you are working at compared to where you live. All pilots based in Iqaluit fly north through Ottawa. Pilots based in Churchill and Rankin Inlet travel north from Winnipeg. Pilots based in Winnipeg are responsible for their own accommodations, all other bases are provided, and are good apartments.

Jumpseat agreements with AC, Jazz and Transat. Highly discounted flights with EIC sister companies (Perimeter, Calm Air, Bearskin).

As much hiring as possible is done internally.
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