Most demanding airplane?
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Most demanding airplane?
What was the most demanding airplane you have flown?
For me it was the Grumman Turbo Goose, especially docking solo.
For me it was the Grumman Turbo Goose, especially docking solo.
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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Re: Most demanding airplane?
Firecat.
"What's it doing now?"
"Fly low and slow and throttle back in the turns."
"Fly low and slow and throttle back in the turns."
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Re: Most demanding airplane?
I find the relative demanding-ness of different aeroplanes to be small potatoes compared to the relative demanding-ness of the different things we have to do with them.
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1960s Merlin SW2A. Swearingen's first home built twin turbo prop with PT6-20s !
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Re: Most demanding airplane?
Does keeping the props of a clapped out 337 without a prop sync in-sync count?
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748 full of 12 packs of cola... Why do they even make those stupid 12 packs!
Fake it till you make it.
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Re: Most demanding airplane?
Maule rocket on floats during landing,
Plane has an unusual nose high attitude naturally while one floats, puter in the flair and it was interesting.
Plane has an unusual nose high attitude naturally while one floats, puter in the flair and it was interesting.
Re: Most demanding airplane?
Landing(or trying to) a Canso in a cross-wind, I was never any good at it..
Re: Most demanding airplane?
By far The R4D8 (super DC-3) Your ears would ache on takeoff and very poor in crosswinds over 10kt (very little rudder movement)
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Re: Most demanding airplane?
Ahh for sure but the sucker sure did perform compared to the straight DC3.By far The R4D8 (super DC-3) Your ears would ache on takeoff and very poor in crosswinds over 10kt (very little rudder movement)
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
Re: Most demanding airplane?
A pa-31-310 with 11 people on board moving to get ready to jump, it's not so pretty.
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Many pilots will agree and many pilots will disagree but I found the Swearingen/Fairchilld SA 226TC Metro 2 to be a demanding airplane to fly the way it was designed to be flown but if it is flown the way it was designed to be flown it is a safe airplane. Fly the approach at Vref and it is a sweetheart, Vref -10 and it is a bitch. Loose an engine and it will fly IF THE BALL IS IN THE CENTER. Use the rudder pedals as foot rests as most pilots do and you are dead meat. The whole problem can be traced back to the way a young sprog pilot used to be trained. Because of the nature of the operation, small package air cargo with older airplanes, most training is to spend Monday reading the AFM, flight training on Tuesday and check ride on Wednsday and on line Thursday. Fortunatly, the company I worked for before retirement spent a lot of time and effort training pilots and most found the airplane to be a demanding airplane to fly properly but a safe airplane. But then again the same can be said of most high performance airplanes.
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Re: Most demanding airplane?
Not too many aircraft but those fuking simulators ...... arrrrrgggggggg -- they were always creating sweat -- 

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Re: Most demanding airplane?
One might suppose that the CADORs
database would be the repository of
this kind of information.
Has anyone ever done a report generation
from it, based on aircraft type? Would
be interesting to know which ones lead
the accident parade.
database would be the repository of
this kind of information.
Has anyone ever done a report generation
from it, based on aircraft type? Would
be interesting to know which ones lead
the accident parade.
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Re: Most demanding airplane?
That would be the J-3 Cub...but it does it more slowlyGene Hasenfus wrote:One might suppose that the CADORs
database would be the repository of
this kind of information.
Has anyone ever done a report generation
from it, based on aircraft type? Would
be interesting to know which ones lead
the accident parade.
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Seriously the J3 ? its a lovely easy to fly little plane?
Re: Most demanding airplane?
L-1011. They tried to make everything as complex as possible on that plane from a maintenance perspective.
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Re: Most demanding airplane?
While CADORs aren't strictly accidents, the type involved most often (keep in mind we're talking Canada) is the Cessna 172. There are all sorts of minor accidents, incidents from the top spot holder for appearing in the CADORs. The cub and its variants I suspect would be high as well, but many of these incidents escape the regulator's notice, and don't show up in reports.Gene Hasenfus wrote:One might suppose that the CADORs
database would be the repository of
this kind of information.
Has anyone ever done a report generation
from it, based on aircraft type? Would
be interesting to know which ones lead
the accident parade.
As I recall, from one location a particlular school's Cessnas would show up in the CADORss at least a dozen or more times a month. Runway incursions being the biggest problem, though comm troubles and landing excursions being right up there.
If You query the CADORS for CYQL (Lethbridge, Alberta) there are an overwhelming amount of CADORS from single piston four seaters crossing the border without flight plans, both Charlie and November registrations.
I would suspect if one could sort out strictly accidents where damage has occured, the ubiquitous 172 would top the list, but primarily due to the numbers used and given their role. From a certain perspective, it might be considered the most "demanding" airplane, since it is so often in the role of playing host to someone at its controls with the least amount of ability. In lots of ways.
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I'm going to go ahead and say Pitts Special...
Re: Most demanding airplane?
Id narrow it down to a Pitts s2b flown from the front seat on a narrow runway with a 20 kt crosswind.
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Re: Most demanding airplane?
Honourable mention to:

There's quite a story about Delmar's first flight
in it! It was in the EAA magazine, some decades
ago.
However, there aren't many of those around
for training in. If you do spend the time to
learn to land a Pitts, all sorts of other interesting
aircraft seem pretty easy afterwards, such as
Waco, Stearman, Harvard, P-51, etc. I remember
being told that the Beech 18 was a "fire breathing
dragon" that would eat me alive. What BS. I
jumped in it and checked myself out. A gentle
sweetheart of an airplane.
As Curtis once said, "There are no squirrelly
airplanes - only squirrelly pilots!".
You can't fault an airplane that does exactly
what you tell it to, although many weasels
will try.

There's quite a story about Delmar's first flight
in it! It was in the EAA magazine, some decades
ago.
However, there aren't many of those around
for training in. If you do spend the time to
learn to land a Pitts, all sorts of other interesting
aircraft seem pretty easy afterwards, such as
Waco, Stearman, Harvard, P-51, etc. I remember
being told that the Beech 18 was a "fire breathing
dragon" that would eat me alive. What BS. I
jumped in it and checked myself out. A gentle
sweetheart of an airplane.
As Curtis once said, "There are no squirrelly
airplanes - only squirrelly pilots!".
You can't fault an airplane that does exactly
what you tell it to, although many weasels
will try.
Gene says - "Always wear your 'chute!"