federal vote 2015

AuxBatOn · Post by **AuxBatOn** » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:02 pm

For those unhappy with the parties/leaders/candidates, why don't you present yourself as a candidate at the next elections and see how she goes?

cdnpilot77 · Post by **cdnpilot77** » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:34 pm

Rockie wrote:Anyway, whatever your political leanings are, get out and vote. It is the ultimate expression of our freedom. Staying at home because The news is on is not acceptable.

There is no question of whether I will vote or not. My riding is always a very tight race where every vote does make a difference. It will likely be decided by a few hundred votes.

Donald · Post by **Donald** » Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:36 pm

Well if you work at Porter, this might be a factor for you:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/o ... -1.3233097

co-joe · Post by **co-joe** » Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:34 pm

And what about replacing the Hornet? Harper is all in on the JSF and waiting for it to go into production to see what the actual cost is right? Has anybody else said what they'd actually buy? Just about time to shit or get off the pot on that one...

Rockie · Post by **Rockie** » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:42 am

co-joe wrote:And what about replacing the Hornet? Harper is all in on the JSF and waiting for it to go into production to see what the actual cost is right? Has anybody else said what they'd actually buy? Just about time to shit or get off the pot on that one...

Who cares really? In fact who cares about the economy, jobs, the senate, niqabs, Duffy, pot, prostitution or whether or not Harper and the CPC are a party of bigots and goons. All of these things are temporary distractions, but strip away your rights and democracy as Harper has been systematically doing for ten years and it is very difficult to get it back no matter who gets elected today.

cdnpilot77 · Post by **cdnpilot77** » Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:27 am

AuxBatOn wrote:For those unhappy with the parties/leaders/candidates, why don't you present yourself as a candidate at the next elections and see how she goes?

I have considered it, but as an independent. If there was any election to run Indy though, it would have been this one!

co-joe · Post by **co-joe** » Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:02 pm

Rockie wrote:
co-joe wrote:And what about replacing the Hornet? Harper is all in on the JSF and waiting for it to go into production to see what the actual cost is right? Has anybody else said what they'd actually buy? Just about time to shit or get off the pot on that one...
Who cares really? In fact who cares about the economy, jobs, the senate, niqabs, Duffy, pot, prostitution or whether or not Harper and the CPC are a party of bigots and goons. All of these things are temporary distractions, but strip away your rights and democracy as Harper has been systematically doing for ten years and it is very difficult to get it back no matter who gets elected today.

I don't care about anything the media tells me I'm supposed to care about. I don't take medical advice from television commercials either.

But in the interest of AV-canada, I was wondering if there was someone who would be a positive force in AV-iation. Sure a hell isn't the minister of forced labour Lisa Raitt.

Shiny Side Up · Post by **Shiny Side Up** » Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:55 pm

Somewhat on point.

Get out and vote.

crazyaviator · Post by **crazyaviator** » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:57 pm

This is the last time I'm going to use the avcanada poll to determine my voting preference WAY OFF LOL

North Shore · Post by **North Shore** » Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:39 pm

Not really - there's no geographic basis to the poll. Our membrship - or at least those who voted in the poll - might be biased towards the prairies, which are pretty much blue this evening..

Strobes · Post by **Strobes** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:22 am

Or people who are making good money and are worried that taxes will be raised on them once again.

North Shore · Post by **North Shore** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:03 am

Taxes will go up again, inevitably - someone has to pay back the ~$700Billion federal debt that we've managed to accrue. The only question is, whose taxes is it going to be? Ours, or our grandchildren's?

W0X0F · Post by **W0X0F** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:43 am

North Shore wrote:Taxes will go up again, inevitably - someone has to pay back the ~$700Billion federal debt that we've managed to accrue. The only question is, whose taxes is it going to be? Ours, or our grandchildren's?

Both North Shore, both and the kids in between. We are going to get fleeced.

pilotbzh · Post by **pilotbzh** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:46 am

You forgot to mention Harper is responsible for 160 b$ of that dette.....

cdnpilot77 · Post by **cdnpilot77** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:12 am

pilotbzh wrote:You forgot to mention Harper is responsible for 160 b$ of that dette.....

Which wasn't enough according to the NDP and Libs during the US economic meltdown. They wanted it much higher. So, take your spin elsewhere. The sheeple got what they wanted, let it go.

B208 · Post by **B208** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:56 am

Well, we'll see what the next five years brings. I suspect people will be howling for the stoner's blood by that point.

Rockie · Post by **Rockie** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:20 am

B208 wrote:Well, we'll see what the next five years brings. I suspect people will be howling for the stoner's blood by that point.

Maybe not in five years, maybe ten -maybe two. Such is the nature of politics. In the meantime Canadian democracy's worst enemy is gone, hopefully to be replaced by someone who respects it. We need a right wing in this country for balance but what we don't need is our version of the tea party..

iflyforpie · Post by **iflyforpie** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:29 am

Now a generation of Albertans have their scapegoat they will blame their last year's problems on.

Rockie · Post by **Rockie** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:40 am

co-joe wrote:I don't care about anything the media tells me I'm supposed to care about.

A free media doesn't tell you what to care about, they only report on what's happening which Harper's government made very difficult to do by ruthlessly suppressing any flow of information they didn't want us to know. Media was ignored (more like considered their enemy), the bureaucracy was silenced, and the Freedom of Information Act was consistently violated both in letter and spirit. Ultimately it's up to you whether or not you care about it.

GyvAir · Post by **GyvAir** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:47 am

What’s missing from this thread in the wake of the election, is the eloquent political musings of the Colonel on his favorite person’s party winning a majority.

cdnpilot77 · Post by **cdnpilot77** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:52 am

Rockie wrote: In the meantime Canadian democracy's worst enemy is gone, hopefully to be replaced by someone who respects it. We need a right wing in this country for balance but what we don't need is our version of the tea party..

Wrong, Wrong and Wrong. Your interpretation of the Conservatives is, um, special.

But I will hold the "I told you so's" until the weeks after JT has been sworn in and the first of many broken promises and crippling taxes/debt start to grab hold.

Hang on, it's going to be a rough ride, hope you brought your lube!

Rockie · Post by **Rockie** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:02 am

cdnpilot77 wrote: Your interpretation of the Conservatives is, um, special.

Contempt of Parliament (first in Commonwealth history I believe)
Prorogation of parliament to prevent democratic defeat
Serial omnibus budget bills stuffed with laws that have nothing to do with the budget.
Voter suppression/interference.
Serial challenges to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms stymied by a Supreme Court charged with defending it.
Unprecedented, disrespectful attacks on the Judiciary for defending the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Flagrant partisan use of public resources.

It's only a partial list and I could go on but the point has been made. These are the facts.

NunavutPA-12 · Post by **NunavutPA-12** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:16 am

It will be interesting to see if the state broadcaster (the public relations arm of the Liberal party) critiques their new man as aggressively as they did the CPC leader.

Oh, and .....hide your guns!

cdnpilot77 · Post by **cdnpilot77** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:18 am

NunavutPA-12 wrote:It will be interesting to see if the state broadcaster (the public relations arm of the Liberal party) critiques their new man as aggressively as they did the CPC leader!

Not a chance, he was their man...made very clear when he said he would give the CBC mucho dinero!

cdnpilot77 · Post by **cdnpilot77** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:37 am

Rockie wrote:
cdnpilot77 wrote: Your interpretation of the Conservatives is, um, special.
Contempt of Parliament (first in Commonwealth history I believe) - he was not removed from leadership by this was he? old tabloid news
Prorogation of parliament to prevent democratic defeat - a legal and wise use of his parliamentary powers
Serial omnibus budget bills stuffed with laws that have nothing to do with the budget. - show me a leader that doesn't do this and I will show you a liar.
Voter suppression/interference - proof?
Serial challenges to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms stymied by a Supreme Court charged with defending it - Challenges....not attacks on it...the Supreme Court got some right and got some wrong, again all within the legal boundaries of his powers.
Unprecedented, disrespectful attacks on the Judiciary for defending the Charter of Rights and Freedoms - and he has been respected by whom exactly as your 3 time consecutive elected Prime Minister with the majority in the third election? This has been a witch hunt since the last election because the liberals didn't get their way in ousting the conservatives. Don't kid yourself about the motivations and attacks against Harper and the Conservative government. Remember who brought in the charter? is it perfect...nope! Have new world wide issues arisen which warrant certain challenges of it, you bet! Does he have a right to be displeased with rulings and voice it just like any other Canadian can (like you are doing regarding him right now), absolutely
Flagrant partisan use of public resources - Liberals under Cretien and Martin AND the current NDP leadership, is your memory really that short

It's only a partial list and I could go on but the point has been made. These are the facts.

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