Edmonton 40 story hi rise---- city centre airport??

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Edmonton 40 story hi rise---- city centre airport??

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Does anyone know if this 40 story building coming to downtown Edmonton would have been possible if the City Centre Airport was still operational?
If you go to their website ex mayor Mandel is there promoting the company.
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Beating a dead horse I know, Being in Aviation and living in Edmonton the City Centre Airport, (Muni) was a sore spot when it closed, I know a vote by all residents and all that, But now we see a company building 40 story buildings sponsored by the ex mayor who during the debate was accused of having dealings with the builders.
I wonder if there is any meat to this
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Well, now there's no airport there, I guess nothing is stopping anyone from building towers. It probably is a conspiracy. A pretty obvious one, too. Some of the people who didn't want there to be an airport there, are also the people who wanted to build big tall towers. It's almost as if they didn't want the airport to be there because they wanted to build big tall towers.

I can't even tell if I'm being sarcastic here. That disturbs me, somehow.
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Are you related to the build company
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Nope. I just don't really give a shit about the Edmonton airport, and I am never surprised when someone in power gets their own way, especially when it turns out they had a reason to give a shit in the first place. Do you think this is a big conspiracy/ scandal? Welcome to Earth!
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What is the name of the company or the Link?
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I assume you are talking about the Stantec tower, which will be 3.8m taller than the now under construction Brookfield Place tower in YYC.

http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=70078793
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Encore Tower
encoretower.com builder Westrich Pacific Corp
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It was always speculated that Mandel was the push behind closing the City Center Airport strictly for personal gain as he is a real estate developer. Not sure if anything could ever be proved or not, and not sure it would do any good at this late of date either? Pretty sad just the same if true, that one person or group could put so many people out of work and destroy not only a viable airport but a historic site too, just for personal financial gain. Welcome to the world of "it's business, screw everyone else so I can get my way." How many are aware that this airport was the first licenced airport in Canada?
longjon wrote:Does anyone know if this 40 story building coming to downtown Edmonton would have been possible if the City Centre Airport was still operational?
If you go to their website ex mayor Mandel is there promoting the company.
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longjon wrote:Encore Tower
encoretower.com builder Wertrich Pacific Corp
So WestJet closed the municipal airport? :?
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As I understand it, there was municipal legislation in place that capped the height of buildings within a certain radius of the airport, along with some more specific requirements for the area below the old ILS approach path. With that said, I don't think anything would have prevented taller buildings from being built outside of this zone (aside from actual money-making considerations, ie. whether or not it would make business sense to build in other locations).

Also, I have heard people involved with the fight mention that the city bylaws could have been changed or relaxed, as there was nothing on the TC, or Nav Canada side that could have restricted urban development -- that's not to say that they wouldn't have had to revise official IFR procedures with things like higher sector altitudes or circling restrictions to account for taller buildings in the area.

Whatever the reality, the parties interested in bulldozing the airport used the idea of the airport stunting the downtown core's vertical growth as a powerful propaganda tool.
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Everything that deals/delt with the closing of YXD makes me sick. Corrupt politics at its finest, the city screwed MANY people and businesses and couldnt give a rats ass about em.
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Cessna driver wrote:Everything that deals/delt with the closing of YXD makes me sick. Corrupt politics at its finest, the city screwed MANY people and businesses and couldnt give a rats ass about em.
...and the benefits will outweigh the short term loss umpteen times within a generation or two. The positives will be irrefutable in time.
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I still dislike Leduc Regional, Robbie.
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And those benefits would be what, housing we don't need and won't need for > 20 years?
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Cessna driver wrote:Everything that deals/delt with the closing of YXD makes me sick. Corrupt politics at its finest, the city screwed MANY people and businesses and couldnt give a rats ass about em.
...and the benefits will outweigh the short term loss umpteen times within a generation or two. The positives will be irrefutable in time.
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Not to mention having to endure the long drive all the way to YMX... er... YEG if you want to go anywhere. :rolleyes:
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