Turbo Beaver Hard landing

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https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/a-st ... -1.5474978

[HO Driver]

I'm glad nobody was hurt. I bet it'll still take the TSB over 3 years to complete the investigation!

[PilotDAR]

Happily (for our tax dollar) the TSB staff will realize, as the rest of us do, that this was an unfortunate accident, with only bent metal and pride, and not expend the effort for a costly investigation.

[goldeneagle]

I'm glad nobody was hurt. I bet it'll still take the TSB over 3 years to complete the investigation!

There wont be an investigation. 74 year old pilot in question was honest about the cause, just stated 'I screwed up'. Nothing to investigate.

It was quite a refreshing read actually. Imagine that, a pilot that bent an airplane and is not hunting high and low for some way of deflecting the blame elsewhere.

[digits_]

I'm glad nobody was hurt. I bet it'll still take the TSB over 3 years to complete the investigation!

There wont be an investigation. 74 year old pilot in question was honest about the cause, just stated 'I screwed up'. Nothing to investigate.

It was quite a refreshing read actually. Imagine that, a pilot that bent an airplane and is not hunting high and low for some way of deflecting the blame elsewhere.

There is likely still a cause or reason for his screw up. Was he distracted, was there some illusion that caused him to misjudge the flare height, was he not feeling well, etc. Yes he screwed up, but why? And how can we prevent it from happening again.

[goldeneagle]

I'm glad nobody was hurt. I bet it'll still take the TSB over 3 years to complete the investigation!

There wont be an investigation. 74 year old pilot in question was honest about the cause, just stated 'I screwed up'. Nothing to investigate.

It was quite a refreshing read actually. Imagine that, a pilot that bent an airplane and is not hunting high and low for some way of deflecting the blame elsewhere.

There is likely still a cause or reason for his screw up. Was he distracted, was there some illusion that caused him to misjudge the flare height, was he not feeling well, etc. Yes he screwed up, but why? And how can we prevent it from happening again.

Did you read the article ? There is a cause, pilot says what it was
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"It was a little bit of a stupid mistake on my part and that's all there is to it,” Eilertsen says. “As pilots, we have to admit when we make mistakes. We can't be trying to blame anybody else for something."
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Then farther down he is quoted farther

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"I was just coming in and I wasn't paying attention. The aircraft was level and the airspeed had dropped off and I was about 20 feet off the water,” he says.
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The man says it himself, wasn't paying attention, screwed the pooch on airspeed. What more would an investigation accomplish other than piss a whole bunch of taxpayer money down the drain.

It would be different if he was an Air Canada pilot that landed short and destroyed an airplane. Then a full scale investigation would be required to try and figure out how they can blame anything and everything except the sky gods in the front seats.

[Maynard]

There wont be an investigation. 74 year old pilot in question was honest about the cause, just stated 'I screwed up'. Nothing to investigate.

It was quite a refreshing read actually. Imagine that, a pilot that bent an airplane and is not hunting high and low for some way of deflecting the blame elsewhere.

There is likely still a cause or reason for his screw up. Was he distracted, was there some illusion that caused him to misjudge the flare height, was he not feeling well, etc. Yes he screwed up, but why? And how can we prevent it from happening again.

Did you read the article ? There is a cause, pilot says what it was
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"It was a little bit of a stupid mistake on my part and that's all there is to it,” Eilertsen says. “As pilots, we have to admit when we make mistakes. We can't be trying to blame anybody else for something."
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Then farther down he is quoted farther

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"I was just coming in and I wasn't paying attention. The aircraft was level and the airspeed had dropped off and I was about 20 feet off the water,” he says.
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The man says it himself, wasn't paying attention, screwed the pooch on airspeed. What more would an investigation accomplish other than piss a whole bunch of taxpayer money down the drain.

It would be different if he was an Air Canada pilot that landed short and destroyed an airplane. Then a full scale investigation would be required to try and figure out how they can blame anything and everything except the sky gods in the front seats.

So if he stalled at 25’ and killed himself, no need for a question why….shitting the bed and stalling the beaver at 20’ isn’t a brush off oops….

[rookiepilot]

Air Canada just misses landing on a crowded taxiway and killing 1000 people:

AvCan: “nothing to see here, move along, routine go around”

Yes, that was said….multiple times. 20 feet from disaster of the century.

Guy flying alone has a hard landing, no injuries, now will be 10 page thread on stringing the guy up for pooching a landing.

Same site.

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Air Canada just misses landing on a crowded taxiway and killing 1000 people:

AvCan: “nothing to see here, move along, routine go around”

Yes, that was said….multiple times. 20 feet from disaster of the century.

Guy flying alone has a hard landing, no injuries, now will be 10 page thread on stringing the guy up for pooching a landing.

Same site.

AC didn't damage anything. This guy did. And nobody is stringing him up.

[EPR]

Air Canada just misses landing on a crowded taxiway and killing 1000 people:

AvCan: “nothing to see here, move along, routine go around”

Yes, that was said….multiple times. 20 feet from disaster of the century.

Guy flying alone has a hard landing, no injuries, now will be 10 page thread on stringing the guy up for pooching a landing.

Same site.

AC didn't damage anything. This guy did. And nobody is stringing him up.
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Pretty sure AC has had a "hard landing" or three..and it didn't didn't just "buff out"!

[karmutzen]

Pretty shallow pool of interest from this forum for a Canadian accident in Canada (a floater Beaver in Campbell River). Y'all rather discuss another Navajo into the Everglades?

Stalling from 20' might seem normal to you pavement pounding 172 student pilots, but it comes across as a "how the f$$k does that happen" to experienced float pilots. No talk of tides, or sandbars at the spit, partly relevant if he was trying to spot land it on the inside - even though it doesn't appear so.

What else, 74 year old pilot, any Biden type cognitive decline happening? You ever told a buddy that it's time to hang up the David Clark's? 7:30 am, direction of landing, was it sunny, any ripple. A 185 similarly submarined in Nimpo Lake landing in the middle in glassy water, with enough room and training/experience you can mitigate that.

Let's not be slackers and just accept "I screwed the pooch", my insurance company doesn't like that.

[‘Bob’]

Lol. As if the surface or undercarriage makes planes fly any different.

Besides, all you have to do is look at accidents and insurance rates to see how prone experienced float plane pilots are to things you were taught to avoid in your PPL.

[rookiepilot]

Air Canada just misses landing on a crowded taxiway and killing 1000 people:

AvCan: “nothing to see here, move along, routine go around”

Yes, that was said….multiple times. 20 feet from disaster of the century.

Guy flying alone has a hard landing, no injuries, now will be 10 page thread on stringing the guy up for pooching a landing.

Same site.

AC didn't damage anything. This guy did. And nobody is stringing him up.

Ahh. The AC crew did nothing wrong. That’s why they deleted their CVR.

This site should have strung up the crew just for that. Don’t sell me they “forgot”. Instead it was all about fatigue and Notams.

If we’re going to bitch about insurance rates for a single plane hard landing, how about the effects of just missing taking out 4 airliners and a lot of people.

[photofly]

Let's not be slackers and just accept "I screwed the pooch", my insurance company doesn't like that.

I blame his instructor.

[RedAndWhiteBaron]

So if he stalled at 25’ and killed himself, no need for a question why….shitting the bed and stalling the beaver at 20’ isn’t a brush off oops….

Had he killed himself, yes, an investigation would be warranted, because owing to the lack of witnesses, we wouldn't know why it happened. In this case, however, the pilot is alive and able to tell the tale, thereby diminishing or eliminating the need for such an investigation.

[photofly]

And how can we prevent it from happening again.

Night vision goggles.

[OneYonge]

So if he stalled at 25’ and killed himself, no need for a question why….shitting the bed and stalling the beaver at 20’ isn’t a brush off oops….

Had he killed himself, yes, an investigation would be warranted, because owing to the lack of witnesses, we wouldn't know why it happened. In this case, however, the pilot is alive and able to tell the tale, thereby diminishing or eliminating the need for such an investigation.

He completely ignored that dead people generally don't talk and tell you what happened.

[8675309]

Glassy water gets a little of my added attention. Glassy water with a dark overcast really gets my attention especially with high dark foliage along the shoreline. From the conditions I see at the recovery, I would maybe suggest that those conditions might have existed at the time?? Not the foliage though. Didn’t see the taf for the time.

[pelmet]

Looks like a distraction issue......

"C-FOES, a de Havilland DHC-2T MK 111 'Turbo Beaver' floatplane, operated by Air Cab of Port
Hardy BC, was conducting a visual flight rules flight from Port Hardy Water Aerodrome (CAW5), BC
to Campbell River Water Aerodrome (CAE3), BC. The final approach was in to the sun and when
approximately 1 Nm from CAE3, a propeller issue developed. As the pilot was addressing the
propeller issue, the airspeed was decreasing. When the aircraft was at a height of about 20 feet
above the water, the stall warning system activated. Though the pilot attempted to recover from the
stall, the aircraft impacted the water. An aluminum front float strut fitting broke and the propeller
struck the water as the aircraft came to rest nose down in the water. There was no post impact fire
and the ELT did not activate. The pilot, sole occupant, sustained no injuries and was rescued by
the Coast Guard who towed the aircraft to a nearby maintenance facility."

[RedAndWhiteBaron]

Let's not be slackers and just accept "I screwed the pooch", my insurance company doesn't like that.

I blame his instructor.

My axe needs grinding, care to do the honours?