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Carson Air

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Carson’s been posting ads for medevac capt/fo about every two weeks for the last couple months. Any ideas why they can’t find people? Would’ve thought that’s a decent gig
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Re: Carson Air

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You would think with their recent purchase by "the Borg" that they would get rid of their ridiculous bond and actually offer a decent salary but no.
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Re: Carson Air

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Nobody I know of has ever gotten an interview out of them
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Re: Carson Air

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Phlyer wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:55 pm You would think with their recent purchase by "the Borg" that they would get rid of their ridiculous bond and actually offer a decent salary but no.
What is the bond? Doesn't say in the ads. And do you know the pay ranges?
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Re: Carson Air

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It was 18 K for a Metro First Officer bond about 5 years ago.
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Re: Carson Air

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I heard it was 30k+ for 24 months….
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I forget the numbers but I remember laughing
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Re: Carson Air

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link821 wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:19 am I heard it was 30k+ for 24 months….
Jeeeez, that’s brutal. And ~$40k a year too I’m sure. Know what captains start at?
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scdriver wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:32 pm
link821 wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:19 am I heard it was 30k+ for 24 months….
Jeeeez, that’s brutal. And ~$40k a year too I’m sure. Know what captains start at?
I believe year 2 FO pay is 50k something so I imagine year 1 is mid/high 40s. As far as king air fo wages in Canada go, that’s some of the better pay I’ve heard of but a two year bond for that much is pretty wild. I don’t know the captain numbers but would be interested if anyone has them.
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Re: Carson Air

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flyndad wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:10 am It was 18 K for a Metro First Officer bond about 5 years ago.
Ridiculous!

Metro bond at Perimeter currently is $6000 for 1 year, pro rated.

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Re: Carson Air

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MrAviator19 wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:52 pm
flyndad wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:10 am It was 18 K for a Metro First Officer bond about 5 years ago.
Ridiculous!

Metro bond at Perimeter currently is $6000 for 1 year, pro rated.

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Incorrect, no bond required on the metro at Perimeter
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Re: Carson Air

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Turboprops wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:55 pm
MrAviator19 wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:52 pm
flyndad wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:10 am It was 18 K for a Metro First Officer bond about 5 years ago.
Ridiculous!

Metro bond at Perimeter currently is $6000 for 1 year, pro rated.

MrA
Incorrect, no bond required on the metro at Perimeter
Not what I was told 2 days ago when I interviewed with the CP… :roll:

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Re: Carson Air

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I was gunna say I remember pre covid there was no bond for the metro at perimeter…kinda greasy to put one in place now.
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Yea the bond was pretty high but it was to force people to stay. Back in 2011-2015 I think it was a 24 month $30k ish bond for a metro type rating and the bond would have to be paid out in full if you left any time during the 2 year period. I know a few guys who left early and tried to weasel their way out of the bond but KC had decent lawyers and would always take em to court and get his money. I think there were previous posts on this forum about some of those court stories and how the pilot was unsuccessful as that bond is pretty water tight. I don't think the training even costed $30k back then but that's what was signed in the agreement. Also FO pay was like $22k to live in YYC during the oil boom when rent prices were the highest in the country so it wasn't the best of operators to be at as a pilot. The one upside is you can build a fair amount of multi turboprop time with a decently quick upgrade and those who did stick it out for a couple years all made it to AC/WJ/TS/Flair. I'm not too sure if things have changed much in recent years
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Re: Carson Air

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MrAviator19 wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:09 pm
Turboprops wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:55 pm
MrAviator19 wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:52 pm

Ridiculous!

Metro bond at Perimeter currently is $6000 for 1 year, pro rated.

MrA
Incorrect, no bond required on the metro at Perimeter
Not what I was told 2 days ago when I interviewed with the CP… :roll:

MrA
Interesting, this is the first time I’ve ever heard of a metro bond at Perimeter. I don’t know a single metro pilot here that signed a bond, myself included.
I know Bearskin has a bond (2 year 10k i believe), but not Perimeter
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Not saying I’m in favour of bonds but last time I ran the costs on initial Metro training the company was on the hook for $34k per pilot. Curiously it was about the same for the sim as it was on-wing.
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Re: Carson Air

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Turboprops wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:18 pm
MrAviator19 wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:09 pm
Turboprops wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:55 pm

Incorrect, no bond required on the metro at Perimeter
Not what I was told 2 days ago when I interviewed with the CP… :roll:

MrA
Interesting, this is the first time I’ve ever heard of a metro bond at Perimeter. I don’t know a single metro pilot here that signed a bond, myself included.
I know Bearskin has a bond (2 year 10k i believe), but not Perimeter
Things can change. Like how Bearskin merged with Perimeter 3 years ago… :P

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Re: Carson Air

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Anybody know what the 350 captain job in YVR pays?
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Re: Carson Air

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MrAviator19 wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:14 pm
Turboprops wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:18 pm
MrAviator19 wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:09 pm

Not what I was told 2 days ago when I interviewed with the CP… :roll:

MrA
Interesting, this is the first time I’ve ever heard of a metro bond at Perimeter. I don’t know a single metro pilot here that signed a bond, myself included.
I know Bearskin has a bond (2 year 10k i believe), but not Perimeter
Things can change. Like how Bearskin merged with Perimeter 3 years ago… :P

MrA
Ya i know, but my friend had his interview in October, where they said no bond at perimeter and 2 year bond at bearskin.
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Re: Carson Air

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Turboprops wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:33 am Ya i know, but my friend had his interview in October, where they said no bond at perimeter and 2 year bond at bearskin.
Well, as of 3 days ago, it's 2-year $12K on the Dash and 1-year $6K on the Metro.

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Re: Carson Air

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The fact they pay their metro captains 43k/yr tells me everything I need to know.
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Re: Carson Air

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Well… they aren’t running clapped out Metros because they want to pay their pilots well… lol.
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Re: Carson Air

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Joe Blow Schmo wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:41 pm Anybody know what the 350 captain job in YVR pays?
I think it depends on experience. Recent hires are coming in at about $80/85k. IIRC $2500/yr raise to a maximum of ??
Citation is on scale $75k to start, with $5k raises up to ~$100k. again, that's negotiable coming in, depending on experience.
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Re: Carson Air

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Raincoast wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:31 pm
Joe Blow Schmo wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:41 pm Anybody know what the 350 captain job in YVR pays?
I think it depends on experience. Recent hires are coming in at about $80/85k. IIRC $2500/yr raise to a maximum of ??
Citation is on scale $75k to start, with $5k raises up to ~$100k. again, that's negotiable coming in, depending on experience.
$75k on the citation is good for an FO but awful for a captains. Which is that pay for?
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Re: Carson Air

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They just posted the metro and king air jobs for captain and fo again, after 2 weeks... Looking through their profile, they've posted the same job ads over and over since October... what's going on?
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