Strike lanyard

[Hangry]

Please lose the Strike ready lanyard. It looks silly.

That is all.

[rudder]

Please lose the Strike ready lanyard. It looks silly.

That is all.

True. But perhaps the ‘Ready to Strike’ lanyard can become the de facto “I voted NO” lanyard.

Not sure what the ‘yes’ voters could do. But ‘Ready to Strike’ has no context for a ‘yes’ voter. Past tense shouldn’t count.

Also ditch the WCC lanyards. Maybe a ‘next time’ lanyard will become in vogue.

It is amusing to watch it all in the terminals.

[Hangry]

I find none of this amusing.

[digits_]

"For sale: Strike lanyard. Never worn."
--
Ernest Hemingway

[Texarcana]

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[UndisputedTruth]

I find none of this amusing.

I’m very disappointed as well.
Seen the movie too many times.

This one is not on Virginia, not on Charlene. This one is squarely on the membership.

We could have had this done in May
How we as a group, facilitated this through the summer is a true testament to the collective bunch of greedy and short sighted bunch we are. To me, it’s nothing short of pathetic.

Ive heard and read enough.

I’m a NO
A NO for all the flat pay, the QOL fails and because I never want to be one which endorses the behaviour.

Top 100 seniority

Ya but we saved the summer right?

[Aerkavo]

Please lose the Strike ready lanyard. It looks silly.

That is all.

As someone mentioned - wear it until after the ratification vote results are revealed. There's a small chance it might still come to a strike. Yes, a small chance but a chance nonetheless. And, after all, I am still "strike ready".

[BrassCraft]

Please lose the Strike ready lanyard. It looks silly.

That is all.

NO!

[Slugger]

@#$! it. I’m going back to my Riders lanyard.

[RippleRock]

I was 1000% let down by the occurrences of 14th-15th of October. 1000%. I was READY.

Sorry, but why wear a Strike Lanyard now??? That ship was ready to leave port on the Night of the 17th. It's come and gone, as has our momentum.

The Strike Lanyard is going to get exponentially more silly as time passes.

I'm hoping not to have to work until the vote is over. Not the case. Guess I can look like a "dupe" a little longer.



FWIW, I'm very curious what lanyard Charlene is wearing now. Anyone know???
She is voting "YES", so wearing a Strike Lanyard would look very stupid.

[Ash Ketchum]

There is also the option to wear no lanyard as many are doing. I feel let down by both the union and company at this point.

[JHR]

Hold the line!

[hsilgnepilot]

I’m a pilot from another airline but was rocking a WCC and even a strike lanyard for the last couple days to show my support. Both have been retired as I too feel let down by the results and have resorted to an Airbus lanyard.

[flyingfool]

I was 1000% let down by the occurrences of 14th-15th of October. 1000%. I was READY.

Sorry, but why wear a Strike Lanyard now??? That ship was ready to leave port on the Night of the 17th. It's come and gone, as has our momentum.

The Strike Lanyard is going to get exponentially more silly as time passes.

I'm hoping not to have to work until the vote is over. Not the case. Guess I can look like a "dupe" a little longer.



FWIW, I'm very curious what lanyard Charlene is wearing now. Anyone know???
She is voting "YES", so wearing a Strike Lanyard would look very stupid.

She was rockn' the Strike Ready lanyard on the webinar while she told everyone she was voting yes to this

Then she said she would quit if it was a no vote for Ratification

I think she has lost the plot

[Hangry]

That’s an understatement.

[RockSalty]

I was 1000% let down by the occurrences of 14th-15th of October. 1000%. I was READY.

Sorry, but why wear a Strike Lanyard now??? That ship was ready to leave port on the Night of the 17th. It's come and gone, as has our momentum.

The Strike Lanyard is going to get exponentially more silly as time passes.

I'm hoping not to have to work until the vote is over. Not the case. Guess I can look like a "dupe" a little longer.



FWIW, I'm very curious what lanyard Charlene is wearing now. Anyone know???
She is voting "YES", so wearing a Strike Lanyard would look very stupid.

She was rockn' the Strike Ready lanyard on the webinar while she told everyone she was voting yes to this

Then she said she would quit if it was a no vote for Ratification

I think she has lost the plot

Pretty sure its somewhat standard for an MEC chair to resign if they're putting a TA out to the membership that they endorse and it gets voted down. The WJ chair said something similar on one of the podcasts when the TA was under vote

[FREEDOMLIBERTY1776]

I was 1000% let down by the occurrences of 14th-15th of October. 1000%. I was READY.

Sorry, but why wear a Strike Lanyard now??? That ship was ready to leave port on the Night of the 17th. It's come and gone, as has our momentum.

The Strike Lanyard is going to get exponentially more silly as time passes.

I'm hoping not to have to work until the vote is over. Not the case. Guess I can look like a "dupe" a little longer.



FWIW, I'm very curious what lanyard Charlene is wearing now. Anyone know???
She is voting "YES", so wearing a Strike Lanyard would look very stupid.

She was rockn' the Strike Ready lanyard on the webinar while she told everyone she was voting yes to this

Then she said she would quit if it was a no vote for Ratification

I think she has lost the plot

United Airlines voted NO on their first TA, fired their entire committee thru a recall vote, and was subsequently able to get a true "WoRLd ClAss CoNtRaCt" maybe y'all should try that

[ImprovedClimb]

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[Booming]

I was 1000% let down by the occurrences of 14th-15th of October. 1000%. I was READY.

Sorry, but why wear a Strike Lanyard now??? That ship was ready to leave port on the Night of the 17th. It's come and gone, as has our momentum.

The Strike Lanyard is going to get exponentially more silly as time passes.

I'm hoping not to have to work until the vote is over. Not the case. Guess I can look like a "dupe" a little longer.



FWIW, I'm very curious what lanyard Charlene is wearing now. Anyone know???
She is voting "YES", so wearing a Strike Lanyard would look very stupid.

She was rockn' the Strike Ready lanyard on the webinar while she told everyone she was voting yes to this

Then she said she would quit if it was a no vote for Ratification

I think she has lost the plot

Pretty sure its somewhat standard for an MEC chair to resign if they're putting a TA out to the membership that they endorse and it gets voted down. The WJ chair said something similar on one of the podcasts when the TA was under vote

It's normal for a MEC Chair to announce they are going to quit if a TA fails?

Why is the Encore MEC Chair still there?! She has a failed TA and didn't hit the hills running

[digits_]

She was rockn' the Strike Ready lanyard on the webinar while she told everyone she was voting yes to this

Then she said she would quit if it was a no vote for Ratification

I think she has lost the plot

Pretty sure its somewhat standard for an MEC chair to resign if they're putting a TA out to the membership that they endorse and it gets voted down. The WJ chair said something similar on one of the podcasts when the TA was under vote

It's normal for a MEC Chair to announce they are going to quit if a TA fails?

Why is the Encore MEC Chair still there?! She has a failed TA and didn't hit the hills running

I don't think it's normal, but it does seem to be the standard ALPA way of doing this. Takes away all the legitimacy of a vote as you're using a vote about a TA as a proxy vote for an MEC vote of confidence so to speak. Way too many political games for a vote that should have a pretty clear question: "Do you find this TA acceptable".

[Canadaflyer46]

She was rockn' the Strike Ready lanyard on the webinar while she told everyone she was voting yes to this

Then she said she would quit if it was a no vote for Ratification

I think she has lost the plot

Pretty sure its somewhat standard for an MEC chair to resign if they're putting a TA out to the membership that they endorse and it gets voted down. The WJ chair said something similar on one of the podcasts when the TA was under vote

It's normal for a MEC Chair to announce they are going to quit if a TA fails?

Why is the Encore MEC Chair still there?! She has a failed TA and didn't hit the hills running

Yes it's normal. We heard this would happen at WJ if we voted down the TA. I don't believe it is meant as a threat to sway the vote, more that someone else should step in if they've fallen short in their role to represent the group.

The Encore MEC chair put out virtually the same TA for a second vote, only this time sent a begging/threatening email telling everyone to vote for it or else. It seemed to do the trick. Should have resigned in embarasment after that display of unprofesionalism.

[rudder]

Pretty sure its somewhat standard for an MEC chair to resign if they're putting a TA out to the membership that they endorse and it gets voted down. The WJ chair said something similar on one of the podcasts when the TA was under vote

It's normal for a MEC Chair to announce they are going to quit if a TA fails?

Why is the Encore MEC Chair still there?! She has a failed TA and didn't hit the hills running

I don't think it's normal, but it does seem to be the standard ALPA way of doing this. Takes away all the legitimacy of a vote as you're using a vote about a TA as a proxy vote for an MEC vote of confidence so to speak. Way too many political games for a vote that should have a pretty clear question: "Do you find this TA acceptable".

If she is ‘threatening’ to resign if the vote result is no, then she should also ‘promise’ to resign if the vote result is yes. She is the one that chose to start a timer on her tenure. Qualifying it by no-vs-yes seems self-serving.

The ACA MEC - and the MEC CHMN - had choices regarding the TA following the MEC AIP vote. They could have taken a neutral position (this is the best that we could do - you decide). They could have taken a position to reject (this was last/final offer and it does not meet our expectations). They could have taken a position to recommend acceptance (we achieved enough of our goals in this TA).

It seems she chose door 3. I am not sure where the rest of the elected reps find themselves.

60/40 in either direction is a major representational ‘fail’ and will not bode well for the future bargaining ambitions of the group.

[Dry Guy]

I thought we had the critical mass required for change this time. If not, we will in the future. There's only so long the 'stop whining I bought $100 worth of drinks on layover' crowd can stick around. Now 65 years because they wanted more.

[Dockjock]

This entire thing is pennywise on the part of the airline. The rest of the industry is responding to changes in the market and we are ultimately choosing not to. Despite the union's "demands" or really pleadings, we were so far unable to drag management into the current world as it exists today. And that will affect our careers for a decade or more as the operational failures, expansion failures, start to pile up and we're just along for the ride. Oh we've notionally "ordered" the airplanes, there just won't be any capacity to hire, train, and staff them. Great stuff.

[TCAS II]

Was this definitely a 6/4 split on the vote? I heard that the union MEC chair said the vote was an unanimous YES. That sounds more like 10/0 vote.