QoL and Upgrade Process

[DashDriver]

Hey guys,

Looking to make the jump from a regional 705 PIC position to the bigs. I was hoping for some insight and knowledge from the current pilot group.

I am hoping to move back to Winnipeg in the next few years. For those hoping to hold Winnipeg as their crew base, what is the current wait time for this?

For those upgrading, what is the upgrade process for Air Canada, I have heard about expedited upgrades on the 319/320. Not that I would qualify or want to jump headfirst into a quick upgrade, but what is the process? Do they have sim evaluations or is it just based on recommendations and you holding the seniority for the position?

Thanks guys!

[flying4dollars]

You may be waiting a while for Winnipeg. It's a small base and positions don't usually open up there unless the senior guys retire. There is only one fleet type there (320). Upgrades on the 320/220 are fairly quick, though that is going to start slowing down I suspect. I couldn't tell you how long the wait time is right now. It was a year for me when I was able to hold it. Right now the most junior upgrade award is around 4800 I believe on the 220. We have 5600 pilots. As for qualifying for one, your experience won't matter since it's seniority based and not experience based. You will be required to contact the type chief pilot to set up a pre-command interview and a discussion about your suitability will be had. You will then need to do your ITC (intro to command) course prior to starting your training. That will be organized for you. Once you get your course date, you simply show up and are expected to be prepared, knowing your SOP and flows as well as the FOM (ops manual). You'll complete a series of sim events, licensing and checking events including a couple of final command sims. 50 hour line indoc and a line check later and you're done.

[thepoors]

I am hoping to move back to Winnipeg in the next few years. For those hoping to hold Winnipeg as their crew base, what is the current wait time for this?

YWG base only has 50 pilots total, 25CA/25FO. You will be commuting for a long time if you decide to live there. It's also a base the company would rather not exist, so I would warn you its future isn't a certainty.

Qualifying for an upgrade is just a matter of seniority. The upgrade process itself is quite long as described by flying4dollars.

[Dronepiper]

Why not go to Westjet? They should be hiring again in fall 2025. YWG is the most junior base, so you would get it almost immediately, and it would be quick to get off reserve. Also will likely always remain the most junior base to upgrade in.

Sure, upgrade will take longer, but do you really want to be a junior AC A320 Captain in YYZ working 18 days of short call reserve for the next 10 years? And then once off reserve having the worst schedule working 16 days a month for another 5 years?

Commuting is the worst thing you can do to your body and family life. Even worse if you are short call RSV in YYZ working 18 days. Some people make it work, but most people hate it.

Even if it takes 10 years to upgrade in YWG at WJ, your life will kind of be set after that.

Even as an FO, life is so mint. As a 3rd year FO at WJ in YYC here are the pros:

- Scheduled for 10 -12 days a month on average

- Scheduling flexibility is huge with FLICA (Ability to trade/drop). In theory you could drop your entire month if you have someone willing to take your flying.

- Social bidding is generally great. I get most of what I want during schedule release, or I use our adjustment window to make my schedule more favourable.

- I have 5 weeks of biddable vacation this year. Our credit is higher too, so generally when I use 2 week of vacation, I will only be scheduled for 3-4 days of work that month.

- My base pay is $120k + per diems + overtime + profit share

- Last year I did $55,000 in overtime, and I barely felt like I was working. We have so many overtime shifts where it's like operate to YLW, DH back the next day. 8 hours of premium pay for like 1 hour in the sky.

There is always the ability to make extra money, either through what seems to always be unlimited OT, or just picking up dropped shifts from other pilots at straight time.

It's rare for me to "take home" less than $9500 after taxes each month (10-11 days of work + 4 days of easy min credit OT).

If I am feeling lazy, and just fly my 11 day block, my take home is $7500.

[pipedream?]

Absolutely flexing on us ^ …….

[Me262]

Why not go to Westjet? They should be hiring again in fall 2025. YWG is the most junior base, so you would get it almost immediately, and it would be quick to get off reserve. Also will likely always remain the most junior base to upgrade in.

Sure, upgrade will take longer, but do you really want to be a junior AC A320 Captain in YYZ working 18 days of short call reserve for the next 10 years? And then once off reserve having the worst schedule working 16 days a month for another 5 years?

Commuting is the worst thing you can do to your body and family life. Even worse if you are short call RSV in YYZ working 18 days. Some people make it work, but most people hate it.

Even if it takes 10 years to upgrade in YWG at WJ, your life will kind of be set after that.

Even as an FO, life is so mint. As a 3rd year FO at WJ in YYC here are the pros:

- Scheduled for 10 -12 days a month on average

- Scheduling flexibility is huge with FLICA (Ability to trade/drop). In theory you could drop your entire month if you have someone willing to take your flying.

- Social bidding is generally great. I get most of what I want during schedule release, or I use our adjustment window to make my schedule more favourable.

- I have 5 weeks of biddable vacation this year. Our credit is higher too, so generally when I use 2 week of vacation, I will only be scheduled for 3-4 days of work that month.

- My base pay is $120k + per diems + overtime + profit share

- Last year I did $55,000 in overtime, and I barely felt like I was working. We have so many overtime shifts where it's like operate to YLW, DH back the next day. 8 hours of premium pay for like 1 hour in the sky.

There is always the ability to make extra money, either through what seems to always be unlimited OT, or just picking up dropped shifts from other pilots at straight time.

It's rare for me to "take home" less than $9500 after taxes each month (10-11 days of work + 4 days of easy min credit OT).

If I am feeling lazy, and just fly my 11 day block, my take home is $7500.

can I PM you specifically about the travel benefit?

[Canadianpilot2024]

Yeah WJ does seem like a no brainer outside of Yvr/Yyz.

Even more so if quick upgrades are a thing of the past

Fingers crossed on the Moab 🥕

[cdnavater]

Why not go to Westjet? They should be hiring again in fall 2025. YWG is the most junior base, so you would get it almost immediately, and it would be quick to get off reserve. Also will likely always remain the most junior base to upgrade in.

Sure, upgrade will take longer, but do you really want to be a junior AC A320 Captain in YYZ working 18 days of short call reserve for the next 10 years? And then once off reserve having the worst schedule working 16 days a month for another 5 years?

Commuting is the worst thing you can do to your body and family life. Even worse if you are short call RSV in YYZ working 18 days. Some people make it work, but most people hate it.

Even if it takes 10 years to upgrade in YWG at WJ, your life will kind of be set after that.

Even as an FO, life is so mint. As a 3rd year FO at WJ in YYC here are the pros:

- Scheduled for 10 -12 days a month on average

- Scheduling flexibility is huge with FLICA (Ability to trade/drop). In theory you could drop your entire month if you have someone willing to take your flying.

- Social bidding is generally great. I get most of what I want during schedule release, or I use our adjustment window to make my schedule more favourable.

- I have 5 weeks of biddable vacation this year. Our credit is higher too, so generally when I use 2 week of vacation, I will only be scheduled for 3-4 days of work that month.

- My base pay is $120k + per diems + overtime + profit share

- Last year I did $55,000 in overtime, and I barely felt like I was working. We have so many overtime shifts where it's like operate to YLW, DH back the next day. 8 hours of premium pay for like 1 hour in the sky.

There is always the ability to make extra money, either through what seems to always be unlimited OT, or just picking up dropped shifts from other pilots at straight time.

It's rare for me to "take home" less than $9500 after taxes each month (10-11 days of work + 4 days of easy min credit OT).

If I am feeling lazy, and just fly my 11 day block, my take home is $7500.

can I PM you specifically about the travel benefit?

I don’t think WJ has PICUS, guess you’re out of luck!

[Man_in_the_sky]

Why not go to Westjet? They should be hiring again in fall 2025. YWG is the most junior base, so you would get it almost immediately, and it would be quick to get off reserve. Also will likely always remain the most junior base to upgrade in.

Sure, upgrade will take longer, but do you really want to be a junior AC A320 Captain in YYZ working 18 days of short call reserve for the next 10 years? And then once off reserve having the worst schedule working 16 days a month for another 5 years?

Commuting is the worst thing you can do to your body and family life. Even worse if you are short call RSV in YYZ working 18 days. Some people make it work, but most people hate it.

Even if it takes 10 years to upgrade in YWG at WJ, your life will kind of be set after that.

Even as an FO, life is so mint. As a 3rd year FO at WJ in YYC here are the pros:

- Scheduled for 10 -12 days a month on average

- Scheduling flexibility is huge with FLICA (Ability to trade/drop). In theory you could drop your entire month if you have someone willing to take your flying.

- Social bidding is generally great. I get most of what I want during schedule release, or I use our adjustment window to make my schedule more favourable.

- I have 5 weeks of biddable vacation this year. Our credit is higher too, so generally when I use 2 week of vacation, I will only be scheduled for 3-4 days of work that month.

- My base pay is $120k + per diems + overtime + profit share

- Last year I did $55,000 in overtime, and I barely felt like I was working. We have so many overtime shifts where it's like operate to YLW, DH back the next day. 8 hours of premium pay for like 1 hour in the sky.

There is always the ability to make extra money, either through what seems to always be unlimited OT, or just picking up dropped shifts from other pilots at straight time.

It's rare for me to "take home" less than $9500 after taxes each month (10-11 days of work + 4 days of easy min credit OT).

If I am feeling lazy, and just fly my 11 day block, my take home is $7500.

whats the FO payscale for year 5, for year 12. Curious about it

[Core]

I would like to hear what a normal month of take-home is these days for 1st year at AC. (And WJ, sure, if anyone wants to volunteer. NORMAL month)

Also is flat pay only 2 year now? What kind of additions go onto your pay after?

Gross and net please, very curious.


Thanks

[Hysteria]

Why not go to Westjet? They should be hiring again in fall 2025. YWG is the most junior base, so you would get it almost immediately, and it would be quick to get off reserve. Also will likely always remain the most junior base to upgrade in.

Sure, upgrade will take longer, but do you really want to be a junior AC A320 Captain in YYZ working 18 days of short call reserve for the next 10 years? And then once off reserve having the worst schedule working 16 days a month for another 5 years?

Commuting is the worst thing you can do to your body and family life. Even worse if you are short call RSV in YYZ working 18 days. Some people make it work, but most people hate it.

Even if it takes 10 years to upgrade in YWG at WJ, your life will kind of be set after that.

Even as an FO, life is so mint. As a 3rd year FO at WJ in YYC here are the pros:

- Scheduled for 10 -12 days a month on average

- Scheduling flexibility is huge with FLICA (Ability to trade/drop). In theory you could drop your entire month if you have someone willing to take your flying.

- Social bidding is generally great. I get most of what I want during schedule release, or I use our adjustment window to make my schedule more favourable.

- I have 5 weeks of biddable vacation this year. Our credit is higher too, so generally when I use 2 week of vacation, I will only be scheduled for 3-4 days of work that month.

- My base pay is $120k + per diems + overtime + profit share

- Last year I did $55,000 in overtime, and I barely felt like I was working. We have so many overtime shifts where it's like operate to YLW, DH back the next day. 8 hours of premium pay for like 1 hour in the sky.

There is always the ability to make extra money, either through what seems to always be unlimited OT, or just picking up dropped shifts from other pilots at straight time.

It's rare for me to "take home" less than $9500 after taxes each month (10-11 days of work + 4 days of easy min credit OT).

If I am feeling lazy, and just fly my 11 day block, my take home is $7500.

Sure, but how did you arrive at $7500 or $9500 take home? Asking genuinely.

[scdriver]

Why not go to Westjet? They should be hiring again in fall 2025. YWG is the most junior base, so you would get it almost immediately, and it would be quick to get off reserve. Also will likely always remain the most junior base to upgrade in.

Sure, upgrade will take longer, but do you really want to be a junior AC A320 Captain in YYZ working 18 days of short call reserve for the next 10 years? And then once off reserve having the worst schedule working 16 days a month for another 5 years?

Commuting is the worst thing you can do to your body and family life. Even worse if you are short call RSV in YYZ working 18 days. Some people make it work, but most people hate it.

Even if it takes 10 years to upgrade in YWG at WJ, your life will kind of be set after that.

Even as an FO, life is so mint. As a 3rd year FO at WJ in YYC here are the pros:

- Scheduled for 10 -12 days a month on average

- Scheduling flexibility is huge with FLICA (Ability to trade/drop). In theory you could drop your entire month if you have someone willing to take your flying.

- Social bidding is generally great. I get most of what I want during schedule release, or I use our adjustment window to make my schedule more favourable.

- I have 5 weeks of biddable vacation this year. Our credit is higher too, so generally when I use 2 week of vacation, I will only be scheduled for 3-4 days of work that month.

- My base pay is $120k + per diems + overtime + profit share

- Last year I did $55,000 in overtime, and I barely felt like I was working. We have so many overtime shifts where it's like operate to YLW, DH back the next day. 8 hours of premium pay for like 1 hour in the sky.

There is always the ability to make extra money, either through what seems to always be unlimited OT, or just picking up dropped shifts from other pilots at straight time.

It's rare for me to "take home" less than $9500 after taxes each month (10-11 days of work + 4 days of easy min credit OT).

If I am feeling lazy, and just fly my 11 day block, my take home is $7500.

can I PM you specifically about the travel benefit?

I don’t think WJ has PICUS, guess you’re out of luck!

[TeePeeCreeper]

can I PM you specifically about the travel benefit?

I don’t think WJ has PICUS, guess you’re out of luck!

I love how ME262 was on Avcanada a year and a half or so ago asking about entry level jobs and here he is once again giving advice out of his ass.

I agree. It’s kinda funny but sad at the same time…

TPC

[thepoors]

Fingers crossed on the Moab

What's this?

[JBI]

Sure, but how did you arrive at $7500 or $9500 take home? Asking genuinely.

This answer is for WJ, but responding to this question for informational purposes.

Base rate of the above poster (3rd year FO it seems) is $120.16 per credit. While the min monthly guarantee is 77.5, the scheduling window is between 75 and 90 credits per month, so on a regular basis you'll be scheduled between 80-85 credits in a month but still max 16 days worked. 77.5 credits gets you a base pay of $9,312, 85 gets you $10,213. While it doesn't happen too often, over 85 is 1.5 credit, so if you are scheduled the full 90 credits in a month, it's $11,114.

Per diems (they are not salary, but they go on your paycheque and are not taxed) are $4.50 CAD for time away from base in Canada and Continental US, and $7.43 CAD. Depends on your pairings etc, but I averaged about $1,000 a month.

There's an additional $610 a month to offset the cost of certain self paid health benefits. Don't ask me to explain the full details of this one cause I can't, but it's an extra $610 a month.

Add in a Dry cleaning allowance of $51 a month and pre-deductions, that's between $10,975 and $13,330 gross. And that doesn't include the 10% pension. Very rough average deductions of $3,000-$4,000 a month and that gets the take home between $7500-$9500 a month. For what it's worth, my January take-home as a 3rd year FO with a small amount of Open-time picked up (like a day and a half) was $9,200.

[Hysteria]

Sure, but how did you arrive at $7500 or $9500 take home? Asking genuinely.

This answer is for WJ, but responding to this question for informational purposes.

Base rate of the above poster (3rd year FO it seems) is $120.16 per credit. While the min monthly guarantee is 77.5, the scheduling window is between 75 and 90 credits per month, so on a regular basis you'll be scheduled between 80-85 credits in a month but still max 16 days worked. 77.5 credits gets you a base pay of $9,312, 85 gets you $10,213. While it doesn't happen too often, over 85 is 1.5 credit, so if you are scheduled the full 90 credits in a month, it's $11,114.

Per diems (they are not salary, but they go on your paycheque and are not taxed) are $4.50 CAD for time away from base in Canada and Continental US, and $7.43 CAD. Depends on your pairings etc, but I averaged about $1,000 a month.

There's an additional $610 a month to offset the cost of certain self paid health benefits. Don't ask me to explain the full details of this one cause I can't, but it's an extra $610 a month.

Add in a Dry cleaning allowance of $51 a month and pre-deductions, that's between $10,975 and $13,330 gross. And that doesn't include the 10% pension. Very rough average deductions of $3,000-$4,000 a month and that gets the take home between $7500-$9500 a month. For what it's worth, my January take-home as a 3rd year FO with a small amount of Open-time picked up (like a day and a half) was $9,200.

Wow thank you, that explains a lot. When you picked up open time, were you already blocked at about 10-12, 15 days? Either way that’s great.

[JBI]

Wow thank you, that explains a lot. When you picked up open time, were you already blocked at about 10-12, 15 days? Either way that’s great.

Kinda depends on the month and how you bid. I don't bid for minimum days as that usually means long single days or short rest two days. I personally focus on a mix of getting particular days off and having interesting/restful/nice layovers so I usually end up with 14/15 days scheduled in a month. Others don't care about layovers and only particular days off, others want to be as efficient as possible. I have young kids at home, so while I want to be home a fair bit and on weekends, I also want to be rested when I'm there. It's easier to sleep in a hotel than at home when you have young kids!

[Me262]

Why not go to Westjet? They should be hiring again in fall 2025. YWG is the most junior base, so you would get it almost immediately, and it would be quick to get off reserve. Also will likely always remain the most junior base to upgrade in.

Sure, upgrade will take longer, but do you really want to be a junior AC A320 Captain in YYZ working 18 days of short call reserve for the next 10 years? And then once off reserve having the worst schedule working 16 days a month for another 5 years?

Commuting is the worst thing you can do to your body and family life. Even worse if you are short call RSV in YYZ working 18 days. Some people make it work, but most people hate it.

Even if it takes 10 years to upgrade in YWG at WJ, your life will kind of be set after that.

Even as an FO, life is so mint. As a 3rd year FO at WJ in YYC here are the pros:

- Scheduled for 10 -12 days a month on average

- Scheduling flexibility is huge with FLICA (Ability to trade/drop). In theory you could drop your entire month if you have someone willing to take your flying.

- Social bidding is generally great. I get most of what I want during schedule release, or I use our adjustment window to make my schedule more favourable.

- I have 5 weeks of biddable vacation this year. Our credit is higher too, so generally when I use 2 week of vacation, I will only be scheduled for 3-4 days of work that month.

- My base pay is $120k + per diems + overtime + profit share

- Last year I did $55,000 in overtime, and I barely felt like I was working. We have so many overtime shifts where it's like operate to YLW, DH back the next day. 8 hours of premium pay for like 1 hour in the sky.

There is always the ability to make extra money, either through what seems to always be unlimited OT, or just picking up dropped shifts from other pilots at straight time.

It's rare for me to "take home" less than $9500 after taxes each month (10-11 days of work + 4 days of easy min credit OT).

If I am feeling lazy, and just fly my 11 day block, my take home is $7500.

can I PM you specifically about the travel benefit?

I don’t think WJ has PICUS, guess you’re out of luck!

I don’t think WJ has PICUS, guess you’re out of luck!

I love how ME262 was on Avcanada a year and a half or so ago asking about entry level jobs and here he is once again giving advice out of his ass.

I agree. It’s kinda funny but sad at the same time…

TPC

Me: asking how WJ travel partners compare to AC travel partners.

Dinosaurs: Hurr durr PICUS, something something go fly Cessnas, practice your right rudder.

Shouldn't you 2 be working OT to cover your lifestyles instead of telling me how I should paint fences for Buffalo Joe because that's how you started when I was in diapers?

What's even more funny is that I've done shit you never done and will never be able to do.

[cdnavater]

can I PM you specifically about the travel benefit?

I don’t think WJ has PICUS, guess you’re out of luck!

I love how ME262 was on Avcanada a year and a half or so ago asking about entry level jobs and here he is once again giving advice out of his ass.

I agree. It’s kinda funny but sad at the same time…

TPC

Me: asking how WJ travel partners compare to AC travel partners.

Dinosaurs: Hurr durr PICUS, something something go fly Cessnas, practice your right rudder.

Shouldn't you 2 be working OT to cover those spousal support payments instead of telling me how I should paint fences for Buffalo Joe because that's how you started when I was in diapers?

What's even more funny is that I've done shit you never done and will never be able to do.

You’re funny! But I would like to know these life experiences that I’ve never done nor would I be able to?
Perhaps you should explain to the insurance actuaries why you feel it’s sooo safe to command a 705 category aircraft at 1500 hours and a bare ATPL, tell them how silly they are for even dreaming that experience has any factor why why premiums shouldn’t go up when the risk is clearly minimal!
You and I do agree on one thing though, we both think it’s stupid that you can get your A bombing around in a 150 doing a few hours night cross country, our reasoning if different however!

[Me262]

I don’t think WJ has PICUS, guess you’re out of luck!

I love how ME262 was on Avcanada a year and a half or so ago asking about entry level jobs and here he is once again giving advice out of his ass.

I agree. It’s kinda funny but sad at the same time…

TPC

Me: asking how WJ travel partners compare to AC travel partners.

Dinosaurs: Hurr durr PICUS, something something go fly Cessnas, practice your right rudder.

Shouldn't you 2 be working OT to cover those spousal support payments instead of telling me how I should paint fences for Buffalo Joe because that's how you started when I was in diapers?

What's even more funny is that I've done shit you never done and will never be able to do.

You’re funny! But I would like to know these life experiences that I’ve never done nor would I be able to?
Perhaps you should explain to the insurance actuaries why you feel it’s sooo safe to command a 705 category aircraft at 1500 hours and a bare ATPL, tell them how silly they are for even dreaming that experience has any factor why why premiums shouldn’t go up when the risk is clearly minimal!
You and I do agree on one thing though, we both think it’s stupid that you can get your A bombing around in a 150 doing a few hours night cross country, our reasoning if different however!

I know, those insurance actuaries must be crazy to insure LH, BA, Iberia, LOT, KLM and all their subsidiaries in Europe where that's exactly what is happening, 1500hrs CA's, albeit as I said in my other posts, with 1300 in the right seat of the same 737/320s they will be commanding, in a 10x denser airspace with some specific regulations based on the country they fly to/from.

[cdnavater]

Me: asking how WJ travel partners compare to AC travel partners.

Dinosaurs: Hurr durr PICUS, something something go fly Cessnas, practice your right rudder.

Shouldn't you 2 be working OT to cover those spousal support payments instead of telling me how I should paint fences for Buffalo Joe because that's how you started when I was in diapers?

What's even more funny is that I've done shit you never done and will never be able to do.

You’re funny! But I would like to know these life experiences that I’ve never done nor would I be able to?
Perhaps you should explain to the insurance actuaries why you feel it’s sooo safe to command a 705 category aircraft at 1500 hours and a bare ATPL, tell them how silly they are for even dreaming that experience has any factor why why premiums shouldn’t go up when the risk is clearly minimal!
You and I do agree on one thing though, we both think it’s stupid that you can get your A bombing around in a 150 doing a few hours night cross country, our reasoning if different however!

I know, those insurance actuaries must be crazy to insure LH, BA, Iberia, LOT, KLM and all their subsidiaries in Europe where that's exactly what is happening, 1500hrs CA's, albeit as I said in my other posts, with 1300 in the right seat of the same 737/320s they will be commanding, in a 10x denser airspace with some specific regulations based on the country they fly to/from.

You say that but you have no proof of that and I’m calling it complete bs!
BA and LH definitely not, some subsidiaries are looking for DEC, are you telling me they don’t have any 1500 hour FOs to upgrade!
Still waiting on these vast life experiences I’ve never or will never experience for myself!

[flying4dollars]

Fingers crossed on the Moab

What's this?

The fabled mother of all bids

[Tbayer2021]

Fingers crossed on the Moab

What's this?

The fabled mother of all bids

Keeping with AC pilot tradition. It may be in a perpetual state of, "the next one".

[flying4dollars]

What's this?

The fabled mother of all bids

Keeping with AC pilot tradition. It may be in a perpetual state of, "the next one".

Indeed. I haven't been holding my breath lately and I don't anticipate anything significant until spring/summer (CMSC 25-02 or 03). This is simply reflective of the commercial plan outlined in December last year. Once the 787-10 and A321XLR delivery dates are firmed up and within the bid's 1 year outlook, it will then inflate the required positions on aircraft/base. The latest is reflecting on the 220's officially showing in YVR as well as a reduction on the 737 and 777 in the same base and I believe this includes the transfer of 737's to Rouge. A total of 253 positions were showing on this bid and I suspect the next one or one after will significantly increase, though I wouldn't say MOAB.

[TeePeeCreeper]

can I PM you specifically about the travel benefit?

I don’t think WJ has PICUS, guess you’re out of luck!

I love how ME262 was on Avcanada a year and a half or so ago asking about entry level jobs and here he is once again giving advice out of his ass.

I agree. It’s kinda funny but sad at the same time…

TPC

Me: asking how WJ travel partners compare to AC travel partners.

Dinosaurs: Hurr durr PICUS, something something go fly Cessnas, practice your right rudder.

Shouldn't you 2 be working OT to cover those spousal support payments instead of telling me how I should paint fences for Buffalo Joe because that's how you started when I was in diapers?

What's even more funny is that I've done shit you never done and will never be able to do.

The irony that I too have done things you have probably never done and never will in aviation! Does that matter? I must ask… how is your last comment relevant to this discussion pre-tell?

Bringing up advice that I once posted on Avcanada after going though hell on earth with a failed personal relationship which ended in divorce in an attempt to help my fellow brethren going though a rough time of their own years ago is the epitome of a personal attack. And for what? A vain attempt to discredit or denigrate me? That only demonstrates how willing you are to stoop to the lowest of lows as shitty human being.

The aforementioned, all because I’ve called your BS out? It’s a crying shame that some here, yourself included can’t have an intelligent discussion without flexing… which is ironic as it wasn’t that long ago that you were asking noob questions on this very same site. Strangely now you have experience that you can’t share with us?

TPC