Thompson now served by First Air Jets

desksgo · Post by **desksgo** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:30 am

A new daily service to Thompson for First Air? You've come a long way, baby!

ScudRunner · Post by **ScudRunner** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:19 am

Oh boy, this ramp is going to even more of a Gong show. Just the way I like it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxX7NXeXy-o

dazed n confused · Post by **dazed n confused** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:50 pm

you can say that again eh

start by moving the medivac machines back to there respective hangers will help some, and then adhearing to the yellow lines each side of the terminal.

time to see who gets boxed in first

wonder how long PAG's ground crew is going to take to turn the jet when there own machines are on the ground......

grimey · Post by **grimey** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:33 pm

. wrote:Oh boy, this ramp is going to even more of a Gong show. Just the way I like it!

Somebody better have a camera rolling, I can't see fun on the ramp from now that the FSS is back in the tower.

I miss watching the ravens outsmart the rampies.

mbav8r · Post by **mbav8r** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:16 pm

Canadian North operated a 737 outta Thompson twice daily for years, not sure when they stopped,they were there forsure between 90 and 94 , so sometime after that. The ramp was just as busy then with Calm air's twotters, Navajo, 748's, and saabs even they had a Kingair back then, as well as Skywards 25+ A/C's. I wouldn't so much about the gong show on the ramp more the gong show for the arriving a departing aircraft. I've had more too close for comfort encounters there than any other airport and yet the tower still remains FSS.

wannabatp · Post by **wannabatp** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:54 pm

mbav8r wrote: I wouldn't so much about the gong show on the ramp more the gong show for the arriving a departing aircraft. I've had more too close for comfort encounters there than any other airport and yet the tower still remains FSS.

You think it's bad in YTH? Check out out Grande Prairie, or Fort Mac sometime. On the other hand, Villeneuve has a big, fancy control tower with no commercial pax service and a handful of flight school flights a day. Apparently, the tower there was a result of a Liberal spending project back in the 80's.

Time to re-allocate some ATC assets maybe?

L8r.

mbav8r · Post by **mbav8r** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:08 pm

wannab wrote:
You think it's bad in YTH? Check out out Grande Prairie, or Fort Mac sometime. On the other hand, Villeneuve has a big, fancy control tower with no commercial pax service and a handful of flight school flights a day. Apparently, the tower there was a result of a Liberal spending project back in the 80's.

Funny or scary, YMM and YQU are two of the main places I'm going into these days, so far no problems anywhere near as bad a YTH but maybe just getting there at a slow time. Have TCAS now so that should help as long as transponders are.

bigfssguy · Post by **bigfssguy** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:57 am

Look at YTH's ramps back in the summer of 2003 during the big fire. We were handling about 300-350 movements a day and both the north and south ramps looked like a parking lot from all the firefighting planes plus the normal skyward, perimeter and calm air flights. It really can't get much worse than that.

dazed n confused · Post by **dazed n confused** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:21 pm

ya but big E, u havn't been there in awhile

that busy metropolis of YYQ is just so stressful now a days..
eh

bigfssguy · Post by **bigfssguy** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:43 am

Unbelievably, i'm thinking of going on stress leave shortly....too much for me to handle!

Masta-Fred · Post by **Masta-Fred** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:43 pm

mbav8r wrote:
wannab wrote:
You think it's bad in YTH? Check out out Grande Prairie, or Fort Mac sometime. On the other hand, Villeneuve has a big, fancy control tower with no commercial pax service and a handful of flight school flights a day. Apparently, the tower there was a result of a Liberal spending project back in the 80's.
Funny or scary, YMM and YQU are two of the main places I'm going into these days, so far no problems anywhere near as bad a YTH but maybe just getting there at a slow time. Have TCAS now so that should help as long as transponders are.

what time are u going into YMM at? last week we had 4 737s, 1 crj, 2 jetstreams, and a dornier on the main ramp... now thats tight shit!

thatdaveguy · Post by **thatdaveguy** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:07 am

wannabatp wrote:
mbav8r wrote: I wouldn't so much about the gong show on the ramp more the gong show for the arriving a departing aircraft. I've had more too close for comfort encounters there than any other airport and yet the tower still remains FSS.
You think it's bad in YTH? Check out out Grande Prairie, or Fort Mac sometime. On the other hand, Villeneuve has a big, fancy control tower with no commercial pax service and a handful of flight school flights a day. Apparently, the tower there was a result of a Liberal spending project back in the 80's.

Time to re-allocate some ATC assets maybe?

L8r.

hey, research your facts before you open your mouth. you just made yourself an ignorant moron.

ZVL has 65,000 movements a year. 60,000 is the official line for requiring a tower.

YTH has 35,000

and for reference, YMM did 62,000 last year

end of story.

app flap · Post by **app flap** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:25 pm

so all we need in yth is a jump school and a glider club and we'll get a tower then!

DA900 · Post by **DA900** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:04 pm

thatdaveguy wrote: hey, research your facts before you open your mouth. you just made yourself an ignorant moron.

ZVL has 65,000 movements a year. 60,000 is the official line for requiring a tower.

YTH has 35,000

and for reference, YMM did 62,000 last year

end of story.

Boy you sure couldn't have responded to his thread with out name calling huh?

app flap · Post by **app flap** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:42 pm

does first air have hot flight attendants?

F,D and H · Post by **F,D and H** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:16 pm

Try getting a clearance out of Sioux Lookout or Timmins when it's IMC...Sudburys next, hoooraahhhh!!!

Four1oh · Post by **Four1oh** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:34 pm

app flap wrote:does first air have hot flight attendants?

Just the hot ones.

is this going to be YWG-YTH?

wannabatp · Post by **wannabatp** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:09 pm

thatdaveguy wrote:hey, research your facts before you open your mouth. you just made yourself an ignorant moron.

ZVL has 65,000 movements a year. 60,000 is the official line for requiring a tower.

YTH has 35,000

and for reference, YMM did 62,000 last year

end of story.

For my part, I guess I'll apologize if I've somehow offended you. I didn't realize it was such a touchy subject for some.

I'll admit, I have no empirical evidence to support my views and opinion.
However, I've spent a lot of time in Fort Mac and a fair amount of time in Thompson. I've been to ZVL and YQU a few times each.

It still seems to me though, and this was the point, that the only movements I'VE ever seen at ZVL are of the flight school/puddle jumper variety. 2x3500ft runways (another extravagance?) No jets, no helos, no turboprops, no FBO apart from the flight school and certainly no sched service, as evidenced by the johnny-on-the-spot which passes for a "terminal" there. I've been to much smaller country airports which had MUCH better facilities and amenities (apart from the control tower). As opposed to YQU, YMM and even YTH, which have all of the above EXCEPT a control tower. (I will admit though, that the FSS guys in YQU seem to like run things as if it were tower'd though).

65,000 movements a year? There must be a heck of a lot of training going on there. That Citabria they have there must really be busy.

In any case, my point was simply to point out that there still seems to be an uneven distribution of ATC resources across this country. It seems to me to be a bit of a waste to have a full control tower just to serve the needs of what is essentially a flight school, no matter how busy it is.

As far as making myself an ignorant moron, if you knew me, you would know that I have no problem accepting that mantle when it's warranted. However, as you don't, would you kindly keep your oafish and hamhanded personal attacks to yourself? Thanks.

End of story

ski_bum · Post by **ski_bum** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:07 pm

Four1oh wrote:
app flap wrote:does first air have hot flight attendants?
Just the hot ones.

is this going to be YWG-YTH?

I heard YWG-YTH-YRT then back...

bigfssguy · Post by **bigfssguy** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:13 pm

I wish they would stop in YYQ too, cheaper flights would be nice!

Busted · Post by **Busted** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:23 pm

hey bigfss

quit your whinning - you get free trips as it is...

oh ya and dosn't the wify gets you passes anyways.

once a day service dosn't help the buisness men that want in and out as fast as they can though

the TI and the Burtwood are such good chain hotels, the bed checks would cause me to want out also