LIMBO lower now...how LOW can a company go...

[Doc]

I'm not going to name anybody, but this is just too much!
Pilot walks into Company A, looking for a job flying a piston twin. He's told to put 5K up front for training. Okay, that's low.
Company B approaches him, and offers him a "better" job on the same equipment, IF he takes the job with Company A, flies a couple of months, then jumps ship with the new PPC.
IMHO, both these companies are SCUM!! But I think Company B raises the bar for SCUM!!

Oh, I'm not making this up....

[1000 HP]

BRUTAL! Have to try and set owner "B" up with a hooker, take pictures, and threaten to send them to his wife if he doesn't cough up $5000. Oh wait, that's probably illegal

[BoostedNihilist]

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[North of You]

Names would help. The best way to have the rats flee is to expose them for what they are. (It isn’t Jazz is it?)

[Doc]

Nope, not Jazz. A couple of very centrally located companies. Piston twin operators.

[1000 HP]

Just a guess, but is one of them a missionary outfit?

[Meatservo]

Maybe both companies are scum, but the pilot pays for the training, the PPC belongs to him, and he don't owe company A nothin'. I say go to work for company B until a better paying job comes up at company C!!!

It's the way of the world Doc, no honour among thieves!

[Northern Skies]

I would tell company b to pay for my training with company a, then quit after a few months and find a company c.

LOL.... perfect

[sky's the limit]

Just a guess, but is one of them a missionary outfit?

Sounds more like a "doggie" outfit - if you catch my drift.


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[trey kule]

doc ..are you sure you are not making this up. I have never heard of any operator being anything but reputable!

seriously, just be patient. It will take a little time, but these kind of people simply dont last in aviation.

as far as some of the suggestions here, while humerous, they essentially put the pilot that would do this in the same class as the operator. Better to just walk away. And if you would like to PM the names of the companies, I will see that resumes with their names on them get put in the found file.

Just as an aside, if the reputable companies refuse to hire pilots that work for these companies, the word will soon get out and they may find they have to modify their hiring policies (and ethics)

[trey kule]

I just got to thinking about this a little more. It would be nice if companies advertising for pilots would include something like...

"pilots with initial current PPC's of less than 10 months old, or subject to a current training bond need not apply"

[CID]

Just a guess, but is one of them a missionary outfit?

Does that mean the pilot was applying for a missionary position?

[The Hammer]

CID
You've been in this industry far too long to ask such a silly question. Based on the previous post, I can guess what position these operator's prefer.

[Rowdy]

CID.. man.. you've been on a roll lately..

That cracked me up

[ScudRunner]

I think this is just the market at work, if company A makes you pay for a PPC you now own that training and qualification. If company B offers you X amount more and other incentives to join there team, give company A the chance to match.

If they don't well its a free market economy you go where the money is, sorry thats just busines. Remember to look out for yourself and get paid. This is how wages will go up and working condition improve, if a company can't find a pilot well its time to pay up to the market.

lol CID

[Doc]

I figure that Company A is pond scum for requiring him to purchase a PPC in the first place. Company B is a bottom feeder as well for living off the avails! I hope he's out there looking for Company C!

[Gross Navigational Error]

I think the law should be changed so that a PPC is only good at the company who gave it to you. That might put an end to ALL training bonds.
Just a thought.

[snaproll20]

Can't remember when PPCs came in. Sometime around the late seventies, was it?

Better off without them. It is all TCCAs fault for introducing them.
We flew safe without them before.

Still, there would still be rats jumping off for "better" deals after being trained.

This is certainly not the worse story I have heard. Some while back, a guy on a (free) PPC training at an expensive simulator course down in the U.S. ran up a huge long distance phone bill at his new employer's expense, shopping for a new employer on qualification. They did not find out until he was gone.

I once had a guy quit right after his (free) training was finished and went across the field.

So, just WHO are the rats??????

[xsbank]

Doc, try this: http://www.classicyachtmag.com/currentissue#

[Sub-Space Canoodler]

Now I Know my A B Cs wont you come and play with me....

Pretty cutthroat. Sounds like some pretty sleazy folks to work for.

[Canoehead]

Names would help. The best way to have the rats flee is to expose them for what they are. (It isn’t Jazz is it?)

What does Jazz have to do with this?

[Rudder Bug]

Does that mean the pilot was applying for a missionary position?

My coffee came out my nose all over my desk!!!!!

[FOwithBO]

NORTH oF YOU...........Jazz has hired around 8 college students as a test. I dont agree at all with it, but are you that disconnected to think a major airline would partake in such douchbaggary!!? Wake the F up!