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It would be user pay of course.
Hammer attack suspect to undergo psych tests

Updated: Tue Aug. 05 2008 19:38:38

ctvbc.ca

The man accused of attacking people with a hammer in Vancouver's west end during Pride weekend festivities will likely have to undergo a psychiatric exam - and will remain in police custody.

Khalid Alzghoul appeared in court today, charged with assault causing bodily harm and assault with a weapon, stemming from a bizarre series of violent hammer attacks on Davie Street Sunday.

The suspect was wearing a black curly wig and carrying an imitation gun during the attacks.

Police say the man they arrested has a history of mental illness.

"There is some history of mental illness... we have had dealings with him," says VPD's Jana McGuiness.

The case follows a call for more services to help the mentally ill -- one that hasn't yet been answered.

Earlier this year, the Vancouver Police released a report showing over one-third of their calls are mental health related and more services are needed.

Mental health workers agree.

"There are people slipping through the cracks," says mental health worker Rudy Small.

Small says ongoing problems include a lack of supportive housing, trained staff and psychiatric beds.

The province referred CTV's calls to the Vancouver Coastal Health Authority, which gets funding from the government.

The health authority says they're doing the best they can with the funds available, but there are hundreds of people on wait lists for supportive housing. The Health Authority says they can access treatment while they wait.

"Over the past three years we've increased mental health supportive housing by 30 percent," says spokesperson Anna Marie D'Angelo.

With a report from CTV British Columbia's Maria Weisgarber.
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"The suspect was wearing a black curly wig and carrying an imitation gun during the attacks."

Gee, just think of the number of people he could have killed if the gun were real. Good thing he couldn't get his hands on one I guess.
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Why did we close Riverview?
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SkyWolfe wrote:Why did we close Riverview?

Because it was a lockem up drug em up and forget about them solution from the past. Then some smart person thought nah we will just put em back on the street. Yeah a lot of good that did! Riverview could be a great success if modern caring methodologies where used, and then an integration program back into society. However I think that mental health should be community based because ideally you want these people to be contributing members of society, which is hard when in Riverview. Not to say that there is not the need for a large well equipped facility for the people who are not ready to be part of society.
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Rockie wrote:"The suspect was wearing a black curly wig and carrying an imitation gun during the attacks."

Gee, just think of the number of people he could have killed if the gun were real. Good thing he couldn't get his hands on one I guess.
Yes Rockie fortunately for us, Canada has a very effective set of firearms laws. Now if the Neo-Liberals would take a shot at enforcing them before they try and ban the sun from rising we might get somewhere. The theme of the post however, is that the registry as not pulling it's weight, which is correct. It is a good idea, that does do some good, but 1 & 1/2 billion worth of good? I don't think so.
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It's a pity that no one in Canada has figured out that
the most dangerous animal on earth walks on two legs.
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Hedley wrote:It's a pity that no one in Canada has figured out that
the most dangerous animal on earth walks on two legs.
I thought Mosquitoes had 6 legs?
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Topspin wrote:
Rockie wrote:"The suspect was wearing a black curly wig and carrying an imitation gun during the attacks."

Gee, just think of the number of people he could have killed if the gun were real. Good thing he couldn't get his hands on one I guess.
Yes Rockie fortunately for us, Canada has a very effective set of firearms laws. Now if the Neo-Liberals would take a shot at enforcing them before they try and ban the sun from rising we might get somewhere. The theme of the post however, is that the registry as not pulling it's weight, which is correct. It is a good idea, that does do some good, but 1 & 1/2 billion worth of good? I don't think so.
I thought it was $2 Billion. But as Chretien says...if a few millions get stolen what's the big deal.

That money is no reflection of the gun registry, but rather of unbelievable government incompetence and theft. The gun registry is just the convenient hole they sunk it into. Money doesn't disappear. It is electronically tranferred from one bank account to another (when it's not handed over in brown envelopes), so what I would dearly love to know is what bank accounts all that cash was transferred to. Someone is in possession of $2B of our money...who has it?
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Rockie wrote:
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Rockie wrote:"The suspect was wearing a black curly wig and carrying an imitation gun during the attacks."

Gee, just think of the number of people he could have killed if the gun were real. Good thing he couldn't get his hands on one I guess.
Yes Rockie fortunately for us, Canada has a very effective set of firearms laws. Now if the Neo-Liberals would take a shot at enforcing them before they try and ban the sun from rising we might get somewhere. The theme of the post however, is that the registry as not pulling it's weight, which is correct. It is a good idea, that does do some good, but 1 & 1/2 billion worth of good? I don't think so.
I thought it was $2 Billion. But as Chretien says...if a few millions get stolen what's the big deal.

That money is no reflection of the gun registry, but rather of unbelievable government incompetence and theft. The gun registry is just the convenient hole they sunk it into. Money doesn't disappear. It is electronically tranferred from one bank account to another (when it's not handed over in brown envelopes), so what I would dearly love to know is what bank accounts all that cash was transferred to. Someone is in possession of $2B of our money...who has it?
Oh they still have to pay for some things. You know salaries, pensions, office supply and space, etc etc. I could see it hitting half a billion and wouldn't complain, like I says it is a good thing, just abused.
I notice you didn't respond to the comment about Canada's firearms laws being very effective when enforced. Is this a concession?
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I'm not sure what you mean by "concession" topspin. My opinion of the firearm laws in Canada are that they aren't enforced enough. To do that requires the backing of the courts, which requires the backing of the government. The illegal guns that exist in Toronto alone are a national shame, and the only way to get rid of them is to get rid of the possessors in a harsh manner. Immediate and enforced deportation seems like a good start for non-citizens, and harsh jail terms for people with a right to live here.

That said, we are nothing like the States and for that I am grateful. Our national attitude towards firearms is one of the things that makes Canada a better place to live in my opinion. Before anyone jumps down my throat, I'm not talking about hunters and sport shooters. I'm talking about Rambo wannabe's who think "if only I was there with my gun I would have popped him and saved the day" and criminals who have nothing but bad things planned for those weapons. Both are a menace to society.
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200hr Wonder wrote:
SkyWolfe wrote:Why did we close Riverview?

Because it was a lockem up drug em up and forget about them solution from the past. Then some smart person thought nah we will just put em back on the street. Yeah a lot of good that did! Riverview could be a great success if modern caring methodologies where used, and then an integration program back into society. However I think that mental health should be community based because ideally you want these people to be contributing members of society, which is hard when in Riverview. Not to say that there is not the need for a large well equipped facility for the people who are not ready to be part of society.
Why do so many whackjobs end up in greater VR and YJ? Are all canadian cities this plagued with the mentally ill?
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Dunno, where do you live?
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grimey wrote:Dunno, where do you live?
I hate you. I wanted to post that. :P
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It's swede, you'll have plenty of chances.
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My dad ran a successful program that did put many "ill" people back into society after they functioned again (ie medication)... They did a lot of garden work... It seemed to work for them - however none of them were deemed "criminally insane" or "crazy" Most just like to talk to flowers...

It was some "bleeding heart" that decided the crazy guy that likes hammers and blood should be allowed to run around and forget his meds... Why couldn't he just attack one of those morons? Then I would feel slightly better.


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I was once attacked by a marching band conductors stick, I propose an outright ban on those.
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