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average monthly salary for a flight instructor?

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Looking to find out from other instructors what they take home on an average basis per month from flight instructing working at a small school with 5 or 6 airplanes and working at a school that offers training that involves a college or university such as Seneca and Toronto Airways, a school in London Ontario that deals with Western and waterloo flight centre that deals with Conestoga and University of waterloo.

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What happened from simple to complex with this original post?
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Doesn't much matter, bluenote/helinas/whatever missed the
pilot boom hiring cycle anyways, after years of procrastination.
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I appreciate the kind words Hedley,

shows your level of sarcasm and again thank you for ridiculling me, that was very nice of you

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Bluenote- are you now Instructing, did you get the rating? Your question was not very consise.
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Maybe he could make sentences longer that have no apparent end or beginning and talk about a bunch of things like very college east of manitoba and west of quebec as welll as the schools they are connected with and then add a different unrelated question in the middle

Alternatively he could just say:

"Hey! Instructors at: Toronto Airways, Maylan and waterloo flight centre ... What they heck do youse folks take home each month anyway?"
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Wow
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hi i think if you do avcanada for long time you just have to get use to lot of post about instructor from helinas/bluenote because it has happen for a long time about the same topic with no change....i see just some of the posts i put them below...
oct 29 2008 --- Looking to find out from other instructors what they take home on an average basis per month from flight instructing working at a small school
aug 11 2008 --- what does the pay average?
apr 18 2008 --- For all the instructors out there, interesting calculator to calculate wages and schedules.
apr 15 2008 --- If you had the choice of teaching, at the school where you got the instructor rating making $18 an hour as a class 4 but you were 20 minutes from home or teach at a school that pays $35 an hour but is 50 minutes away from home
apr 07 2008 --- So I guess if a school is very near to me but pays $10 an hour less might not be a bad idea when it comes to driving almost an hour for the school that will pay you $10 more an hour.
apr 04 2008 --- Which area or school other than Buttonville(little too far for me) pays good wages. I am concentrating on the Hamilton, Kitchener, brantford, guelph , burlington area.
nov 14 2007 --- which is the busier flight school in the Toronto, Hamilton, Kitchener, Markham, etc located to be employed as a flight instructor
oct 19 2007 --- Who gets paid the most in the instructor industry ranging from Oshawa in the East GTA to let's say St. Thomas-London to the WEst in the far greater Toronto area.
sept 25 2007 --- If you had to choose between YTZ, Hamilton, Kitchener, Guelph, St. Catharines, Burlington to instruct which one would keep you the busiest flying.
there is also lot more posts but i think i will go do other stuff now....
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One assumes that his primary interest in flight instructing is solely to build hours and make money. Possibly misinformed on both counts as to how to go about it. His main goals of hours and money are probably fairly transparent, especially to any prospective students, which in turn hinders the attianing of his main goals.
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Thank you bose as well for using sarcasm and making fun of me. Obviously you do not know the path that my instructor course has taken me and having to deal with poor flight schools but that is okay bose, again thank you for making me look like a stupid ass and a dork, much appreciated. Do you and Hedley sit down and talk about the responses that you post about me?

Thank you once again

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hey shiny side up,

If you want to read my story about how long and efforts it has taken me to get this instructor rating let me know,, I will share it with you

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I work at a very small school. Take home about 1500-2000 a month after tax. College programs pay more. Confed pays a salary of 32k a year to class 4s.
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Small private schools you can be around $1500/month in winter, anything less and you're at the wrong school. Summer at a private school you should see well over $3500 month in exchange for working your ass off. If you're not seeing similar numbers as a class 3 or 4 you are being hosed. (This is before taxes and includes base pay, ground briefs and all that jazz)

The colleges pay $2500 - $3500 monthly for 3s and 4s to work normal hours year round.



Disclaimer: The above wages are not my opinion of wages, just what I have seen of the wages this year.
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out in vancouver where i am its $25 an hour as a class III. however no base pay. how you make a living doing that during winter is simply not possible. gonna be a lot of turn over.
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Hmmm, no base, sure hope they are not expecting free admin work and dispatch stuff .
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Topics like this invariably become a pissing contest of who makes the most as a class (insert your class here). Take home can be a big part of it, cost of living too regardless if you still live with mom and dad. The big part I found is that does your company value you and your "skills" or are you treated like a number and such. That is worth a whole lot too. Sure you may take home a few hundred more than the next person but if you are treated like crap comparatively its not really worth it in my books. Being treated like a human has value does it not?
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I think these topics are less of a pissing match and rather beneficial, especially for the odd instructor our there flying crap aircraft for $12 an hour still. Knowledge is power and if one school pays $X, treats you well and gives you good airplanes spread the word, they deserve to get some resumes while the crap school paying crap wages ought to have a hard time finding staff. Sharing wage details promotes better pay for instructors. I don't consider that a pissing match.
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I can see your point.

Money is fine and dandy people also need to beware of moral too. A job that pays well but treats you like a number is no place to work either. If someone pays a little less but high moral would be worth something too.
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Do most schools give a base salry?
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oneill10999 wrote:Do most schools give a base salry?
Most? No.
Some? Yes.
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Colleges usually give a straight salary pay, which is often pretty good, Selkirk for example you can take home about $40k/yr as a class 3 (they don't hire 4s) but remember this is a m-f 9-5 job with a long college Christmas break and the summer off where they encourage you to work other industry jobs and gain experience to take back to instructing. Also, as you get time in, you can earn closer to 90k/year as a class 1 so it can be a good career.

Big schools often have dispatch and ground personnel running the show so many instructors just get a hourly pay based on hobbs time. Lowest I see around BC is low 20's per hour hobbs time and briefing time typical is around $25 it seems, but I have heard of $40. But you are not an office worker, just show up and fly then go home. It is like freelance work except you just show up and fly rather then take care of lining things up yourself. I never see freelancers go lower then $50 / hour as it isn't worth showing up to the airport for less if it is just 1 student.

If you have to work the phones, schedules, fueling and all that jazz, expect a base pay. 500-1000/month. Small schools have to go this way since there is not enough work for both an office person and instructor during the slow season typically.
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