Colour Blindness-Huh?

[200Above]

Came across this.... the items in bold is what i don't understand. It is an American job posting, which confuses me, do they do a colour blindness test on medicals? And if so, would they state the colours you have trouble with on medical certificate? I won't pretend to know much about FAA medicals.

PART 135/121 PILOT JOB OPPORTUNITYPosition Offered: Pilot May 29 2006
We are looking for a pilot to fly charters in Malawi. We operate a fleet of 3 piston twins for the tourism market.
Applicants should have 1000 hr total and 200 hr on twin. Position available from 1 June until at least 30 November. Pilot should be single. Color blindness is acceptable as long as you know the difference between Brown and Green.Employer: Jakamaka Express
Contact: Mr. Jan Bongaerts, Email: jmx@jakamaka.net or telephone +265-1-794054 - Please quote reference: PilotCrewJobs.com

[Lost Lake]

Shit is Brown!Cash is Green !! If you can tell the difference you get the job.

[Cat Driver]

Malawi is one of the nicest places in Africa.

[C-FKLY]

Well, I know I had to do a colourblind test on my medical -- what the rules are in terms of colourblindness, I don't know. I would assume that any colourblindness would be warrant for failing a medical, but seeing as the job is in Africa, regulations are probably much more lax.

[1000 HP]

The forest canopy is green, the runways are brown. Just a guess

[JayVee]

I'm colour blind and I maintain a cat 1 medical.

[Cat Driver]

Actually the rules in Africa are far better than here because the rules are based on how much money you offer to get an official to interpret the rules.

[just curious]

Dry Firm Runways are Brown
Wet, get-airplane-stuck-and bend-prop runways are green.

[grimey]

Well, I know I had to do a colourblind test on my medical -- what the rules are in terms of colourblindness, I don't know. I would assume that any colourblindness would be warrant for failing a medical, but seeing as the job is in Africa, regulations are probably much more lax.

In Canada you'll still be assessed as fit, with restrictions:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/Regse ... t42402.htm

1.41 An applicant who does not qualify under paras. 1.39 or 1.40 shall be assessed as fit for a restricted Commercial Pilot Licence provided the licence is issued with the following restriction: "Valid daylight only, 2-way radio required at controlled airports".

NOTE: The colour perception practical test is no longer acceptable.

[metal]

I believe the term is "colour deficient" compared to completely colour blind. I'm very mildly deficient, doesn't affect me in perceiving colours in the real world, but I can't pass the Ishihara plates for shit. Farnsworth D-15 I can get perfect on no problem though.

[richd]

I believe the term is "colour deficient" compared to completely colour blind. I'm very mildly deficient, doesn't affect me in perceiving colours in the real world, but I can't pass the Ishihara plates for shit. Farnsworth D-15 I can get perfect on no problem though.

So, just embarking down this road, you sound similar to me.[I always thought I had a mental block for Ishihara, no probelms RW, and no one complained at my theatre lighting designs!) My medical has the daylight restriction, which is no biggie while i'm a student pilot, but once I have PPL I want to get this removed. The D-15 test -- do you need to do this for every medical, or just one time?

Also, what is the procedure for getting a D-15. The letter I got from TC said go see my local optometrist - but what do I do then? Send to TC, or take results to my AME?

[matt777]

I can't pass the Ishihara but I can do the Farnsworth D-15 perfectly and I have a cat 1 medical.

Richd, you only need to do the Farnsworth once and thats it. I just went to my optometrist and he gave me the test, gave me the paper work which I took to my AME and problem solved! Hope all works out.

[twinpratts]

Shit is Brown!Cash is Green !! If you can tell the difference you get the job.
LMFrigginAO!

[black hole]

I hate to say it; but they might be referring to skin colour and cash.

BH

[pilohock]

I too struggle a little with the ISHIHARA test at times....i could see the numbers sometimes and other times I can't see squat! Most of the time I need to take my time, focus and trace a number on the plate in order to figure it out...they don't just pop up in front of me. I got really down because flying and becoming an airline pilot is all I ever wanted to do. On my first medical I was only 16 and the doctor gave me the plates and asked what I saw...i did not do so well so he claimed I was red-green colour blind...i went to see my optometrist and she said I was fine and not colour blind (she gave me the ISHIHARA test and D-15). I have a new doctor now and his nurse does my eye tests, i still get worried about the ISHIHARA plates although I have no restrictions and I was not asked to do the D-15 tests either. I go see my optometrist every year to check my eyes and do her tests before I do my medical. I don't understand why transport wants a colour test done at every medical because what I heard was that colour vision does not change.

My greatest fear is that one day i screw up on this test and get a restriction...I wouldn't knwo what to do and if it could be removed.

I still get discouraged about this whole thing...what do you guys think?

[jmd51]

Hi I know this is an old topic but I had a quick question

I had my class 1 with the day vfr only restriction but it was lifted after i failed the numbers test and teh d15 but passed the lantern test. I was wondering if Anyone knew if you have to redo the lantern test everytime you go to renew your licence or is it on a one time only pass basis like the d15 is?
THanks

[KK7]

Hi I know this is an old topic but I had a quick question

I had my class 1 with the day vfr only restriction but it was lifted after i failed the numbers test and teh d15 but passed the lantern test. I was wondering if Anyone knew if you have to redo the lantern test everytime you go to renew your licence or is it on a one time only pass basis like the d15 is?
THanks

I don't know all the details of the different tests, but as a non-colourblind person I have to do the colourblindness test every time I renew my Class 1 medical. So I would imagine that you will have to pass one of the tests every time as well.

[I WAS Birddog]

Dry Firm Runways are Brown
Wet, get-airplane-stuck-and bend-prop runways are green.

Buck stops here folks.

[Expat]

From the link below, I suffer from Deuteranopia, which affects 1% of males.

I never knew until I passed (failed) my aircrew medical in the CF.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness

[Lost Lake]

I know of a few pilots who suffer from Opticorectitus. Apparently, the optic nerve gets shifted during pregnancy. Other people suffer this later in life through a severe trauma.

Basically, the optic nerve gets attached to the anus. Gives a person a shitty oulook on life.

[AFIRS]

Greetings!

I usually live over in PPRUNE but I know how devastating this subject can be for some, so I hope my comments will help others.

I delayed my career 10 years by being told I was color blind. Very, very long story short-

I can't pass the Ishihara or Farnsworth D-15 test and was told the road basically stops there... I found that Transport Canada excepts one other test called the Farnsworth Lantern test. Many years of Dr's and MANY pilots telling me I'd never become an airline pilot because of my CD came to a sudden halt when I completed this 2 minute exam.

I'm now a 737NG Captain and loving life even more... I have no worries about my yearly medical. My Dr. knows my story and doesn't even pull the book out. When ever a new Dr. pulls out the Ishihara plates I tell them the story and we continue on. Transport obviously keeps files on us all and I'm sure when my yearly medical comes across their desk they cross check my file and see that I've completed the Farsnworth Lantern test. You only ever need to pass it once.

Knowing how the uneducated usually respond to a color DEFICIENT pilot, I've actually gone to get a copy of my file from 4900 Yonge Street for pre employment medicals.

As with everything in this world it's all mostly just smoke and mirrors....

I believe the job posting comment probably involves someone that understands this and that certain commercial pilots who are stuck with a "day vfr only" may be interested in this position.

You've got to laugh at this- Australia has..

If anyone is has any questions about this topic please don't hesitate to ask.

Cheers!