Increased penalty for assulting a police officer.

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Increased penalty for assulting a police officer.

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The bill will also seek to increase sentences against those convicted of assaulting police officers with a weapon or causing bodily harm to a maximum of 10 years in prison
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/02/ ... -bill.html

I am worried they will use this against us if we try to protest.

What chance does an unarmed person have when they are beaten and pepper sprayed?

You think these guys will sit around and debate your right to protest?

It's your word against a cops. They will convict you and ruin your life .
How long until we have "free speech zones" like in the USA regime?


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We have the right to protest, yes. But we do NOT have the right to get violent or destructive during a demonstration. I'll bet you any amount of money that is why the police are going after people in any one of your pictures.
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As posted above, you have every right to protest peacefully, but the law says that if three or more people conspire to commit an unlawful act in public, that is a riot.

Also if Dash Ate, Bob Sacamano and IABD are peacefully protesting: the US, Tasers, and all around police activity, then Dash Ate decides to be violent, while Bob and IABD are still peaceful, all three can be picked up for causing a riot.

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Did I say anything about unlawful activity?
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A few years ago during a G8 meeting in Quebec City, a well known protester or as I prefer to call him, shit disturber, was arrested on his way to a protest with a slingshot in his possession. It was quite harmless really. He said he intended to use the sling shot to shoot miniature teddy bears at the cops who were providing security. The press made a deal out of it, harmless prank, etc. What they didn't report was an aquaintance of the shit disturber was also arrested at the site of the protest. He wasn't carrying a sling shot, but he did have a pocket full of steel ball bearings.
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What about someone who's holding a stapler in a potentially threatening manner? How many years is that worth?
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What about someone who's holding a stapler in a potentially threatening manner? How many years is that worth?
Depends on the jurisdiction, up to 10 years. Attempted battery isn't taken lightly.
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What about someone who's holding a stapler in a potentially threatening manner? How many years is that worth?
In Canada we kill them.
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Just as there are already laws against assault/battery, who the victim is has not a hell of a lot to do with it. We have laws against murder/manslaughter, the actual method need not be spelled out.

Since they have removed other civil remedies, sometimes active resistance is necessary.
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Assault PO has been a separate criminal code offence for longer than anyone here has been alive. The maximum penalty is being increased to signal the courts that they need to take this offence more seriously. It's not aimed at relatively protesters, it's aimed square at the growing number of gang members, wannabes, anarchists and assholes that do not hesitate to physically attack police.

An example of a situation this is intended to address is an incident that occurred in Victoria a year or two ago. A group of 17-18 year olds from a well heeled suburb in a limo out celebrating grad. A single officer patrol car pulls over the limo because the passengers are throwing bottles out the sun roof. Officer warns the kids and proceeds to confiscate their liquor when they grab him, drag him into the limo, and proceed to beat the crap out of him. By the time back-up arrives, he's well bruised and needs stitches. They are charged for assault PO and six months later get a conditional discharge with a few months probation. Never reported in the news, but that type of thing is happening more than any regular person realizes.

As for maximum sentences, they can never be imposed under Canadian sentencing rules. All they do is provide judges with a guidline for how serious the government thinks a particular offence should be viewed by the courts.
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Nark wrote:As posted above, you have every right to protest peacefully, but the law says that if three or more people conspire to commit an unlawful act in public, that is a riot.

Also if Dash Ate, Bob Sacamano and IABD are peacefully protesting: the US, Tasers, and all around police activity, then Dash Ate decides to be violent, while Bob and IABD are still peaceful, all three can be picked up for causing a riot.

It is best to know the company you keep when you want to voice your opinion.
Hey why you dragging me into this lol If the three of us are hanging out, I'm sure we'd be out drinking instead of protesting.

Look guys, I'm all for the police having the right to protect themselves. They do not know the intentions of those people that are coming towards them. They have to exercise good judgment, however it's not a guessing game. Does he have a knife? gun? etc. They need to protect themselves, and the public.

Now, while I say this, like any other groups, you've got the morons, and the jackasses within the department. Every department has them*. As a citizen, you have to know that this exists, and don't go around looking to pick fights with police officers. I have personally seen police officers being out-witted during a verbal conversation with citizens, where the police officer felt their ego taking punch after punch, and you guessed it, once they felt cornered and in the spotlight, they reverted to taking the citizen down by force and arrested them. Well, they had taken the wrong person down and for the wrong reasons. Luckily, daddy's company had a team of lawyers who took the officer, the department, and the city down in court.

So kids, if you don't need to do deal with the po po, stay away. Know your rights, and for the love of god, if you've been drinking, just walk away.

The famous Baltimore cop that preys on teenage skaters.

*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgWrV8TcUc
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When the only tool you've got is a hammer, how long before the world starts to look like a nail?
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ahem.
Quebec police admit they went undercover at Montebello protest
Last Updated: Thursday, August 23, 2007 | 7:52 PM ET
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Quebec provincial police admitted Thursday that three of their officers disguised themselves as demonstrators during the protest at the North American leaders summit in Montebello, Que.
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Dash-Ate wrote:ahem.
Quebec police admit they went undercover at Montebello protest
Last Updated: Thursday, August 23, 2007 | 7:52 PM ET
CBC News
Quebec provincial police admitted Thursday that three of their officers disguised themselves as demonstrators during the protest at the North American leaders summit in Montebello, Que.
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