PTR

[FE_PLT]

Can you add in the PTR a rental checkout time with an instructor if I'm renting temporary from another flight school. I'm away for 2 months and would like to know if going up with an instructor would count toward DUAL TRAINING in the CPL requirement?

[B-rad]

I would say yes. It might not be your normal school but any training with a qualified flight instructor should be able to count towards your dual training.

[HS-748 2A]

I can not imagine why you would not.

[loopa]

I remember as part of my commercial build up time, I flew with my friend who was an instructor. We went over exercises and everything; I counted that towards my dual.

I don't see why Transport would have any issues with it, and it certainly isn't the current school's business regarding when, and where else you may do your dual build up. In your case though, you even have a good excuse, you're going to be away for 2 months.

[phantom]

I would say that it isn't a given that it will count. You would want to ensure the instructor at the school giving you a checkout is well aware of your intentions of using this checkout time towards the 35 hour dual requirement for a CPL. Those 35 hours dual are supposed to be under an approved CPL training program. Every instructor shall ensure each student has a proper training plan for each licence they would like to earn. The plan must comply with the FIG and FTM.

[Guzen]

It's part of your flight experience while working on your CPL so it should be in the PTR. It's not like you're going to get your licence with the bare minimum of dual hours, right? You'll still do all 35 hours with your regular flight training unit anyway.

[B-rad]

I would say that it isn't a given that it will count.

I'd be shocked if it wasn't. What do you cover in a check out? flight test items no? you're up with an instructor reviewing flight test items. I don't see how it wouldn't be approved.

[Tango01]

Its a grey area. In theory, as long as the exercises and applicable PGIs (if any) introduced are briefed by the instructor it should count, however, if the student was not enrolled in a training program at the time, then it wouldn't count.

It all comes to what TC thinks.

Here is a bid of advice: Put the exercises covered in the PTR as well as the flight sheet and logbook by number, not "checkout" to CYA.

[Tim]

It's part of your flight experience while working on your CPL so it should be in the PTR.

actually thats not correct. if it isnt part of a training syllabus you cant log it in a PTR. still in the log book though

[Invertago]

actually thats not correct. if it isnt part of a training syllabus you cant log it in a PTR. still in the log book though

Yes, I asked TC about that once, has to be part of a CPL training syllabus. However, will TC care?, depends on who audits the PTR.

[200hr Wonder]

Well assuming the rental checkout includes things like stalls, spins, forced approaches and other exercises in the syllabus go ahead and log it just mark down the exercises you did.

[sstaurus]

Just make sure it's certified... nothing else should matter.