DHC-5 Buffalo landing in a Stadium and Taking off again

[yultoto]

I read in several places about a marketing stunt DeHavilland did some years ago which involved landing in a Stadium (baseball ?) making a 180 turn and taking off. It seems there is even a video of that stunt.

Anyone hear of it?
Anyone know about it ?
Anyone seen the video ?

Does anyone have the video ?

If true this is hot Youtube Material.

[nortont]

If you watch this clip on you tube, there is a quick little blerb of the buffalo in which it looks like it's landing in a baseball field..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjM5WNqqOsQ

starting at time 1:21 -to- 1:35

[SAR_YQQ]

It was a muddy soccer field that was set up for the stunt. Landing the Buff short has never really been an issue - we regularly stop in 600-800 feet without much max effort. It's the T/O that is more demanding. The bird needs to be light, low altitude and cool outside for the best show.

[200hr Wonder]

I know the YQQ guys use to go into Courtney Air Park which is just next to YQQ and thy never had a problem landing but use to back er up right to the fence before attempting to go off again. The strip is 1800'

[Donald]

Operationally (ie NOT during training), how short of a runway would SAR use?

[SAR_YQQ]

Courtenay Airpark was/is a valid option - just need the check the charts.

As to the operational STOL question - again it depends on where we are. If we are trying to take off out of a high/hot aerodrome, we might have to offload SAR gear. It's all up to that vaunted accelerate/stop chart - if it says we can do it, we go for it. We can always land somewhere, just no guarantee of getting out of there.

Realistically speaking we don't use the STOL (landing) attributes of this machine to the fullest. It just isn't required. We can get into 90% of the strips that we need with just 30 degrees of flap. Taking off is another thing altogether. With the only two choices being 7 flap or STOL - 90% of the time we choose STOL (if we are light enough for 30 flap).

[P180]

[quote="yultoto"]I read in several places about a marketing stunt DeHavilland did some years ago which involved landing in a Stadium (baseball ?) making a 180 turn and taking off. It seems there is even a video of that stunt.

Anyone hear of it?
Anyone know about it ?
Anyone seen the video ?

Does anyone have the video ?

If true this is hot Youtube Material.[/quote

It was called metro 66.Dehavilland took the Dhc-5 Dhc-6 and I think the 7 was there as well. it was a demo to show what STOL aircraft could do in a disaster area.

[righthandman]

I remember seeing such a video (actually it was a film loop) at the Rockcliffe Aviation Museum of a Buffalo doing what you said (flying into and out of a stadium). It was jaw dropping amazing to me at the time and I would love to see it again. I have searched for it in the past but with no luck.

I have also seen in person several times Caribou's do a steep overhead approach from 3000 ft agl where you see the TOP of the wing during the entire turning descent to a short field landing followed by backing up with reverse thrust and a short field takeoff. Again... very impressive.

[W5]

Like this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmYpP-6r7Lo

[CD]

I believe that this is some more information regarding that demonstration:

Nov 5, 1966: A two-day exercise designated Metro Air Support '66 began as a demonstration of aviation's ability to provide emergency access and logistic support to a city center. The first major operation of its kind, it involved more than 200 airplanes, helicopters, and Short Takeoff and Landing (STOL) aircraft.

FAA was a key participant in planning the exercise, and a number of airlines cooperated by flying supplies from distant points to airports in the New York City vicinity. The key operation involved airlifting supplies from the fringes of the city to its center, which was accomplished by helicopters and STOL aircraft. The exercise had its headquarters at a pier on the Hudson River, and one of its objectives was to encourage the development of waterfront locations for STOL ground facilities.

FAA Historical Chronology, 1926-1996

DE HAVILLAND CANADA
de Havilland Aircraft of Canada Ltd, Downsview, Ontario, Canada.

DHC-5 Buffalo Encouraged by the success of the Twin Otter and the possible demand it will create for a larger aircraft to operate under comparable conditions, DHC is putting increasing effort into defining a civil version of the Buffalo. The company began planning this STOL 53-seater in 1966 and expects to reach a firm decision early next year as to whether or not to go ahead and market the aircraft.

The military Buffalo is now in production to meet an RCAF order for 15 (five delivered) and for the Brazilian Air Force (12 on order). The type was originally .developed with funds provided equally by the US and Canadian Governments, and the four prototypes have undergone extensive trials with the US Army. Further military orders are expected.

The STOL Buffalo was initiated to provide a big-payJoad utility transport for battle-zone logistics support, and there is close correlation between these requirements and those for a commuter aircraft The Buffalo was by far the largest aircraft to take part in the autumn 1966 Metro Air Support flight trials into improvised landing sites in the centre of New York.

The civil Buffalo can accommodate up to 53 passengers in a four-abreast seating layout with large overhead enclosed bins for luggage. The advanced high-lift flap design confers an exceptional})' wide speed range—from 78 m.p.h. to 282 m.p.h.; yet this aircraft, which has exceptional STOL performance, promises to have operating costs about the same as those of conventional types.

Basic price would be about $1.7 million (£600,000).

Flight International, 23 November 1967

In 1966. DHC participated with dramatic success in a New York exercise. Metro Air Support, designed to show what could be done with an airlift of hospital equipment and supplies, when the great city was assumed to have been paralysed by a power failure.

Flight International, 3 April 1969

[J31]

How is this for a short landing..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVh8BQeFt9c&NR=1
I think this was the B-29 recovery that went wrong in Greenland.

[ODA]

Not a stadium, but a short Take-off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmjb6TDdB0M

[Bentleyjorge]

Have the VHS and will transfer to a media I can upload. Yes it happened.

[PointyEngine]

How is this for a short landing..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVh8BQeFt9c&NR=1
I think this was the B-29 recovery that went wrong in Greenland.

The Buffalo was used during the restoration and recovery of a B-29 that went down some time ago. Here's a link to the Doco, probably the saddest movie out there, will bring a grown man to tears!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u4YBwjQTds

[beech 18]

July 11, 2014

Buffalo landing at East River Park in New York City.
This aircraft was involved in Metro 66.
Photo was taken in 1966.
Photographer unknown.

[Moose47]

G'day

I just watched the video and can not believe they said de Havilland Canada got involved in the war effort in 1944. Who were they building all those D.H. 82C Tiger Moths for beginning in 1940? Or assembling Avro Anson Mk. I's until production began in Canada?. They showed the de Havilland Mosquito production line as they said 1944. The Canadian-built prototype Mosquito s/n KB300, first flew at Downsview on the 23rd of September, 1942.

Cheers...Chris

[rigpiggy]

How is this for a short landing..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVh8BQeFt9c&NR=1
I think this was the B-29 recovery that went wrong in Greenland.

The Buffalo was used during the restoration and recovery of a B-29 that went down some time ago. Here's a link to the Doco, probably the saddest movie out there, will bring a grown man to tears!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u4YBwjQTds[/quote
Pretty sure it was a Caribou during that clusterfornicate

[fish4life]

I'd like to see the takeoff distance if Viking wins the SAR replacement contract and puts the PW150's on it like they propose.

[CLguy]

Yes it was a DHC-4 Caribou that was used in the ill-fated B-29 salvage. The Caribou has a Wright radial engine and the DHC-5 Buffalo has General Electric turbine engine.

[Dibbley]

I'd like to see the takeoff distance if Viking wins the SAR replacement contract and puts the PW150's on it like they propose.

A de-rated PW150, I presume? I heard of a plan to put on PW-127's years ago but not this latest one. Where are you reading about this plan?

[fish4life]

Can't find the full article on it but there is some here

http://www.wingsmagazine.com/content/view/7852/146/

[Starclaw]

Have the VHS and will transfer to a media I can upload. Yes it happened.

Did you ever upload it?

[PilotDAR]

My friend and DHC demonstration pilot Bill Loverseed landed a Buffalo into a stadium in the US for a military demonstration. He showed me the video he personally had of this. I do not have a copy (gee I wish I had asked him for copies of all of his videos!). As I recall from seeing it on the video, and his telling me, there was metered parking where he was to park the Buffalo, so when he backed it in there, he pulled out a pocket full of dimes, and fed all of the parking meters with a big smile on his face. Bill also test flew the Augmentor wing and QSRA Buffalos during their test programs.

I flew with Bill in the Buffalo a few times, and he and I did many hours of flying together in other types, ferrying all over the world. I am a very much better pilot for knowing him!

[New Antique Pilot]

Yes it was a DHC-4 Caribou that was used in the ill-fated B-29 salvage. The Caribou has a Wright radial engine and the DHC-5 Buffalo has General Electric turbine engine.

I thought the Caribou had P&W R2000 engines.

NAP

[DHC-1 Jockey]

I remember hearing a story from Russ Bannock (WW2 Ace and later DHC Chief Test Pilot and Vice President) about taking off from Downsview width-wise ACROSS the runway. For some reason I thought it might have been in the Buffalo, but more than likely the Beaver, Otter or Twin Otter.

Still a neat little story.